Full Transcript Introduction to Nervous System Regulation vs Brain Retraining 0:02 Hello everybody and a warm welcome to 0:02 Hello everybody and a warm welcome to our live event today with myself Ashok 0:04 our live event today with myself Ashok 0:04 our live event today with myself Ashok Gupta. Where we're going to be 0:06 Gupta. Where we're going to be 0:06 Gupta. Where we're going to be discussing a really important topic, 0:09 discussing a really important topic, 0:09 discussing a really important topic, which is what is the difference between 0:12 which is what is the difference between 0:12 which is what is the difference between nervous system regulation 0:14 nervous system regulation 0:14 nervous system regulation and brain retraining? 0:16 and brain retraining? 0:16 and brain retraining? Now often the two 0:18 Now often the two 0:18 Now often the two get talked about in the same breath. 0:20 get talked about in the same breath. 0:20 get talked about in the same breath. They're often equated. 0:22 They're often equated. 0:22 They're often equated. And yet what we want to really 0:23 And yet what we want to really 0:23 And yet what we want to really understand is what is the difference 0:25 understand is what is the difference 0:25 understand is what is the difference between these two concepts? How do they 0:28 between these two concepts? How do they 0:28 between these two concepts? How do they fit together? 0:29 fit together? 0:29 fit together? Because ultimately we don't care whether 0:30 Because ultimately we don't care whether 0:30 Because ultimately we don't care whether we are engaging in nervous system 0:32 we are engaging in nervous system 0:32 we are engaging in nervous system regulation or brain retraining. We want 0:34 regulation or brain retraining. We want 0:34 regulation or brain retraining. We want to understand are we going to feel 0:36 to understand are we going to feel 0:36 to understand are we going to feel better? Okay, that's why we are engaging 0:39 better? Okay, that's why we are engaging 0:39 better? Okay, that's why we are engaging in these practices. 0:41 in these practices. 0:41 in these practices. And therefore [snorts] whether it's a 0:42 And therefore [snorts] whether it's a 0:42 And therefore [snorts] whether it's a chronic inflammatory condition that you 0:44 chronic inflammatory condition that you 0:44 chronic inflammatory condition that you might be suffering from like ME or 0:45 might be suffering from like ME or 0:45 might be suffering from like ME or chronic fatigue syndrome or long COVID. 0:48 chronic fatigue syndrome or long COVID. 0:48 chronic fatigue syndrome or long COVID. Perhaps it's a sensitivity reaction like 0:50 Perhaps it's a sensitivity reaction like 0:50 Perhaps it's a sensitivity reaction like mold or food sensitivities, 0:52 mold or food sensitivities, 0:52 mold or food sensitivities, environmental sensitivities. Perhaps 0:54 environmental sensitivities. Perhaps 0:54 environmental sensitivities. Perhaps it's a pain disorder that you have. Or 0:57 it's a pain disorder that you have. Or 0:57 it's a pain disorder that you have. Or you've got something more related to 0:59 you've got something more related to 0:59 you've got something more related to mental health such as anxiety or panic 1:02 mental health such as anxiety or panic 1:02 mental health such as anxiety or panic or burnout which a lot of people are 1:03 or burnout which a lot of people are 1:03 or burnout which a lot of people are experiencing in the modern population. 1:05 experiencing in the modern population. 1:05 experiencing in the modern population. Whatever it is, we're often prescribed 1:07 Whatever it is, we're often prescribed 1:07 Whatever it is, we're often prescribed this idea of nervous system regulation 1:10 this idea of nervous system regulation 1:10 this idea of nervous system regulation and there's a separate concept of of 1:11 and there's a separate concept of of 1:11 and there's a separate concept of of brain retraining. And today we're going 1:13 brain retraining. And today we're going 1:13 brain retraining. And today we're going to dispel the myths about these two 1:14 to dispel the myths about these two 1:14 to dispel the myths about these two concepts and really bring them together 1:17 concepts and really bring them together 1:17 concepts and really bring them together into a holistic model of how you can 1:18 into a holistic model of how you can 1:18 into a holistic model of how you can heal from a chronic condition that you 1:21 heal from a chronic condition that you 1:21 heal from a chronic condition that you may be um experiencing. 1:23 may be um experiencing.
Why the Event Matters and What Will Be Covered 1:24 may be um experiencing. So why did we decide to have this event? 1:25 So why did we decide to have this event? 1:25 So why did we decide to have this event? Because many people are coming to us 1:27 Because many people are coming to us 1:27 Because many people are coming to us saying 1:28 saying 1:28 saying well I'm doing vagus nerve exercises. 1:31 well I'm doing vagus nerve exercises. 1:31 well I'm doing vagus nerve exercises. How do you have vagus nerve exercises? 1:34 How do you have vagus nerve exercises? 1:34 How do you have vagus nerve exercises? Uh I'm doing somatic work. 1:36 Uh I'm doing somatic work. 1:36 Uh I'm doing somatic work. Yeah. I'm doing regulation practices 1:38 Yeah. I'm doing regulation practices 1:38 Yeah. I'm doing regulation practices right now. 1:39 right now. 1:39 right now. And yet they may be engaging in those 1:41 And yet they may be engaging in those 1:41 And yet they may be engaging in those practices, which definitely are very 1:43 practices, which definitely are very 1:43 practices, which definitely are very important and improve a particular 1:45 important and improve a particular 1:45 important and improve a particular person's condition. 1:47 person's condition. 1:47 person's condition. But many people still feel stuck despite 1:50 But many people still feel stuck despite 1:50 But many people still feel stuck despite engaging with those practices. So what's 1:52 engaging with those practices. So what's 1:53 engaging with those practices. So what's what's really happening here? 1:54 what's really happening here? 1:54 what's really happening here? So today what we're going to do is we're 1:56 So today what we're going to do is we're 1:56 So today what we're going to do is we're going to be talking about, once again, 1:58 going to be talking about, once again, 1:58 going to be talking about, once again, the neuroscience behind nervous system 2:00 the neuroscience behind nervous system 2:00 the neuroscience behind nervous system regulation and brain retraining, what 2:02 regulation and brain retraining, what 2:02 regulation and brain retraining, what the commonalities are, and what the 2:03 the commonalities are, and what the 2:03 the commonalities are, and what the differences are. 2:05 differences are. 2:05 differences are. And we're also going to have a patient 2:06 And we're also going to have a patient 2:06 And we're also going to have a patient interview with someone reflecting on 2:09 interview with someone reflecting on 2:09 interview with someone reflecting on their recovery and how they see these 2:11 their recovery and how they see these 2:11 their recovery and how they see these two concepts. 2:12 two concepts. 2:12 two concepts. And at the end we're going to really 2:15 And at the end we're going to really 2:15 And at the end we're going to really talk about how this can benefit you and 2:17 talk about how this can benefit you and 2:17 talk about how this can benefit you and your condition. 2:18 your condition. 2:18 your condition. And we're going to talk about how we 2:20 And we're going to talk about how we 2:20 And we're going to talk about how we want to make the program more accessible 2:22 want to make the program more accessible 2:22 want to make the program more accessible to you. So many people have said that 2:24 to you. So many people have said that 2:24 to you. So many people have said that they find sometimes the upfront payment
The Three Rs of Recovery 2:26 they find sometimes the upfront payment 2:26 they find sometimes the upfront payment for a retraining program is too much. So 2:28 for a retraining program is too much. So 2:28 for a retraining program is too much. So we decided, we've been listening, and we 2:30 we decided, we've been listening, and we 2:30 we decided, we've been listening, and we want to offer 2:32 want to offer 2:32 want to offer a way that you can engage in the program 2:34 a way that you can engage in the program 2:34 a way that you can engage in the program in an installment plan. So it's not a a 2:36 in an installment plan. So it's not a a 2:36 in an installment plan. So it's not a a big upfront payment, but it makes it 2:38 big upfront payment, but it makes it 2:38 big upfront payment, but it makes it easier and more accessible for everyone. 2:40 easier and more accessible for everyone. 2:40 easier and more accessible for everyone. So we'll talk about that towards the end 2:42 So we'll talk about that towards the end 2:42 So we'll talk about that towards the end of today's session. And of course we'd 2:44 of today's session. And of course we'd 2:44 of today's session. And of course we'd love for you to like today's session. 2:46 love for you to like today's session. 2:46 love for you to like today's session. Please 2:47 Please 2:47 Please send us a like. Please share it on your 2:49 send us a like. Please share it on your 2:49 send us a like. Please share it on your social media. Perhaps share it with 2:51 social media. Perhaps share it with 2:51 social media. Perhaps share it with other people on in Facebook groups, 2:53 other people on in Facebook groups, 2:53 other people on in Facebook groups, because the concept we're going to be 2:55 because the concept we're going to be 2:55 because the concept we're going to be talking about, the neuroscience behind 2:57 talking about, the neuroscience behind 2:57 talking about, the neuroscience behind this, is something that I spent the last 2:58 this, is something that I spent the last 2:59 this, is something that I spent the last 25 years researching and trying to 3:02 25 years researching and trying to 3:02 25 years researching and trying to understand and get my head around this 3:03 understand and get my head around this 3:03 understand and get my head around this specific types of concepts. And we've 3:06 specific types of concepts. And we've 3:06 specific types of concepts. And we've now probably seven clinical studies on 3:08 now probably seven clinical studies on 3:08 now probably seven clinical studies on this topic as well. So this is something 3:10 this topic as well. So this is something 3:10 this topic as well. So this is something where I really want to share what we've 3:12 where I really want to share what we've 3:12 where I really want to share what we've learned so it can make an impact on you 3:14 learned so it can make an impact on you 3:14 learned so it can make an impact on you and the wider public. 3:17 and the wider public. 3:17 and the wider public. Now, I want to start off with this 3:19 Now, I want to start off with this 3:19 Now, I want to start off with this important point that nervous system 3:21 important point that nervous system 3:21 important point that nervous system regulation 3:22 regulation 3:22 regulation is incredibly important and is like the 3:25 is incredibly important and is like the 3:25 is incredibly important and is like the starting point. 3:27 starting point. 3:27 starting point. And in our program we talk about this 3:30 And in our program we talk about this 3:30 And in our program we talk about this idea of the three Rs of recovery. 3:32 idea of the three Rs of recovery. 3:32 idea of the three Rs of recovery. The first R is regulating the nervous 3:35 The first R is regulating the nervous 3:35 The first R is regulating the nervous system. 3:36 system. 3:36 system. That is the foundational basis. 3:39 That is the foundational basis. 3:39 That is the foundational basis. And there we use, obviously, what some 3:42 And there we use, obviously, what some 3:42 And there we use, obviously, what some people call vagus nerve techniques, 3:43 people call vagus nerve techniques, 3:43 people call vagus nerve techniques, breathing techniques, meditation 3:44 breathing techniques, meditation 3:44 breathing techniques, meditation techniques, and we do a lot of deep 3:46 techniques, and we do a lot of deep 3:46 techniques, and we do a lot of deep somatic type practices as well, which 3:48 somatic type practices as well, which 3:48 somatic type practices as well, which are very powerful at 3:51 are very powerful at 3:51 are very powerful at regulate the nervous system, helping it 3:52 regulate the nervous system, helping it 3:52 regulate the nervous system, helping it feel safer. So, that's the first R. 3:55 feel safer. So, that's the first R. 3:55 feel safer. So, that's the first R. Then the second R of recovery is then 3:57 Then the second R of recovery is then 3:57 Then the second R of recovery is then the retraining of the brain. 3:59 the retraining of the brain. 4:00 the retraining of the brain. And the third R, we talk about 4:02 And the third R, we talk about 4:02 And the third R, we talk about re-engaging with joy. And what that 4:05 re-engaging with joy. And what that 4:05 re-engaging with joy. And what that means is for a person to understand at a 4:06 means is for a person to understand at a 4:06 means is for a person to understand at a deeper level their stress patterns. 4:08 deeper level their stress patterns. 4:08 deeper level their stress patterns. Because we don't just want someone to 4:10 Because we don't just want someone to 4:10 Because we don't just want someone to get well, we want them to stay well. And 4:14 get well, we want them to stay well. And 4:14 get well, we want them to stay well. And therefore, learning about their own 4:15 therefore, learning about their own 4:15 therefore, learning about their own stress patterns, their parts, how they 4:18 stress patterns, their parts, how they 4:18 stress patterns, their parts, how they respond to their environment, and how 4:19 respond to their environment, and how 4:19 respond to their environment, and how they can connect with that inner 4:21 they can connect with that inner 4:21 they can connect with that inner stillness and joy for the rest of their 4:23 stillness and joy for the rest of their 4:23 stillness and joy for the rest of their lives. It's an important part of 4:25 lives. It's an important part of 4:25 lives. It's an important part of remaining well.
How Learned Threat Responses Form 4:27 remaining well. 4:27 remaining well. Okay, so that's what we use We use the 4:29 Okay, so that's what we use We use the 4:29 Okay, so that's what we use We use the dove analogy. That a dove needs three 4:31 dove analogy. That a dove needs three 4:31 dove analogy. That a dove needs three things to fly, two wings, 4:34 things to fly, two wings, 4:34 things to fly, two wings, the regulation of the nervous system and 4:36 the regulation of the nervous system and 4:36 the regulation of the nervous system and the brain retraining, and the third is 4:38 the brain retraining, and the third is 4:38 the brain retraining, and the third is then that re-engaging with joy, that 4:40 then that re-engaging with joy, that 4:40 then that re-engaging with joy, that direction in life. 4:43 direction in life. 4:43 direction in life. And let's go deeper now into 4:45 And let's go deeper now into 4:45 And let's go deeper now into understanding 4:46 understanding 4:46 understanding uh these two concepts. So, the way I 4:49 uh these two concepts. So, the way I 4:49 uh these two concepts. So, the way I want to introduce these concepts is to 4:51 want to introduce these concepts is to 4:51 want to introduce these concepts is to talk about what we call the river 4:53 talk about what we call the river 4:53 talk about what we call the river analogy. All right? So, when we have a 4:56 analogy. All right? So, when we have a 4:57 analogy. All right? So, when we have a certain chronic condition, 4:58 certain chronic condition, 4:58 certain chronic condition, many of us experience that our nervous 5:00 many of us experience that our nervous 5:00 many of us experience that our nervous system is wired. We might be wired but 5:04 system is wired. We might be wired but 5:04 system is wired. We might be wired but tired. It feels that although we're 5:05 tired. It feels that although we're 5:06 tired. It feels that although we're trying to rest, our nervous system won't 5:07 trying to rest, our nervous system won't 5:07 trying to rest, our nervous system won't let us rest. It's on high alert. 5:11 let us rest. It's on high alert. 5:11 let us rest. It's on high alert. And this is what we call the stimulus 5:13 And this is what we call the stimulus 5:13 And this is what we call the stimulus interpretation response model. 5:16 interpretation response model. 5:16 interpretation response model. So, let's take the example, um 5:19 So, let's take the example, um 5:19 So, let's take the example, um let's say of long COVID. 5:21 let's say of long COVID. 5:21 let's say of long COVID. So, initially when someone had COVID, 5:24 So, initially when someone had COVID, 5:24 So, initially when someone had COVID, the stimulus would have been the arrival 5:26 the stimulus would have been the arrival 5:26 the stimulus would have been the arrival of the virus, the interpretation would 5:29 of the virus, the interpretation would 5:29 of the virus, the interpretation would have been this is a virus that's 5:31 have been this is a virus that's 5:31 have been this is a virus that's threatening to our well-being, 5:33 threatening to our well-being, 5:33 threatening to our well-being, because survival is what our brain and 5:35 because survival is what our brain and 5:35 because survival is what our brain and bodies are built to do, and the response 5:37 bodies are built to do, and the response 5:37 bodies are built to do, and the response would be stimulating the nervous system 5:39 would be stimulating the nervous system 5:39 would be stimulating the nervous system and immune system. 5:40 and immune system. 5:40 and immune system. Okay? 5:41 Okay? 5:41 Okay? Now, you imagine that's like a river in 5:44 Now, you imagine that's like a river in 5:44 Now, you imagine that's like a river in your brain. It's like a neural pathway. 5:46 your brain. It's like a neural pathway. 5:46 your brain. It's like a neural pathway. The stimulus is what is at the beginning 5:48 The stimulus is what is at the beginning 5:48 The stimulus is what is at the beginning of that riverbed or that 5:50 of that riverbed or that 5:50 of that riverbed or that river. 5:52 river. 5:52 river. The pathway is that interpretation and 5:54 The pathway is that interpretation and 5:54 The pathway is that interpretation and that response is the water flowing down 5:57 that response is the water flowing down 5:57 that response is the water flowing down that pathway. 5:58 that pathway. 5:58 that pathway. All right? 6:00 All right? 6:00 All right? And 6:00 And 6:01 And that's the right thing for our brains to 6:02 that's the right thing for our brains to 6:02 that's the right thing for our brains to do is to protect us from danger. And so 6:04 do is to protect us from danger. And so 6:05 do is to protect us from danger. And so that's what it is doing 6:06 that's what it is doing 6:06 that's what it is doing uh 6:07 uh 6:07 uh each moment is protecting us from that 6:09 each moment is protecting us from that 6:09 each moment is protecting us from that virus or that bacteria or that toxin or 6:12 virus or that bacteria or that toxin or 6:12 virus or that bacteria or that toxin or that traumatic event, right? 6:14 that traumatic event, right? 6:14 that traumatic event, right? But then what happens is 6:16 But then what happens is 6:16 But then what happens is if 6:17 if 6:17 if the exposure is repeated again and again 6:20 the exposure is repeated again and again 6:20 the exposure is repeated again and again and again, that groove that river flow 6:23 and again, that groove that river flow 6:23 and again, that groove that river flow gets deeper and deeper and deeper into 6:25 gets deeper and deeper and deeper into 6:25 gets deeper and deeper and deeper into the ground. 6:27 the ground. 6:27 the ground. So that it becomes more automatic. All 6:30 So that it becomes more automatic. All 6:30 So that it becomes more automatic. All right? 6:31 right? 6:31 right? And then what happens is if it's there 6:33 And then what happens is if it's there 6:33 And then what happens is if it's there for a long time, 6:35 for a long time, 6:35 for a long time, other environmental stimuli that are 6:38 other environmental stimuli that are 6:38 other environmental stimuli that are otherwise unimportant, 6:40 otherwise unimportant, 6:40 otherwise unimportant, they now become 6:42 they now become 6:42 they now become a proxy for the COVID. 6:45 a proxy for the COVID. 6:45 a proxy for the COVID. All right? So, 6:47 All right? So, 6:47 All right? So, what then happens is a brain the brain 6:49 what then happens is a brain the brain 6:49 what then happens is a brain the brain thinks, "I'm experiencing symptoms in my 6:51 thinks, "I'm experiencing symptoms in my 6:51 thinks, "I'm experiencing symptoms in my body. 6:52 body. 6:52 body. Maybe these symptoms mean that the virus 6:55 Maybe these symptoms mean that the virus 6:55 Maybe these symptoms mean that the virus is still present or the bacteria is 6:56 is still present or the bacteria is 6:56 is still present or the bacteria is still present or the mold is still 6:58 still present or the mold is still 6:58 still present or the mold is still present. Okay, we must restimulate the 7:00 present. Okay, we must restimulate the 7:00 present. Okay, we must restimulate the nervous system and immune system." 7:02 nervous system and immune system." 7:02 nervous system and immune system." Which then creates more of the water 7:05 Which then creates more of the water 7:05 Which then creates more of the water flowing down the left hand path, which 7:07 flowing down the left hand path, which 7:07 flowing down the left hand path, which then creates symptoms in the body, which 7:09 then creates symptoms in the body, which 7:09 then creates symptoms in the body, which double back to the brain telling the 7:10 double back to the brain telling the 7:10 double back to the brain telling the brain there's something wrong. And 7:12 brain there's something wrong. And 7:12 brain there's something wrong. And that's where an acute illness can turn 7:14 that's where an acute illness can turn 7:14 that's where an acute illness can turn into a chronic illness. So this is what 7:17 into a chronic illness. So this is what 7:17 into a chronic illness. So this is what we call learned threat responses, where 7:19 we call learned threat responses, where 7:19 we call learned threat responses, where following an illness, stress, trauma, or 7:23 following an illness, stress, trauma, or 7:23 following an illness, stress, trauma, or inflammation, the brain can get stuck
Predictive Processing and Deep Conditioned Pathways 7:26 inflammation, the brain can get stuck 7:26 inflammation, the brain can get stuck in a loop where it keeps over 7:28 in a loop where it keeps over 7:28 in a loop where it keeps over stimulating our nervous and immune 7:29 stimulating our nervous and immune 7:29 stimulating our nervous and immune system. 7:31 system. 7:31 system. And to build on this type of approach, 7:34 And to build on this type of approach, 7:34 And to build on this type of approach, there's something called predictive 7:36 there's something called predictive 7:36 there's something called predictive processing. And this is a hot topic in 7:38 processing. And this is a hot topic in 7:38 processing. And this is a hot topic in in neurology. So bear with me. I know 7:39 in neurology. So bear with me. I know 7:39 in neurology. So bear with me. I know this is going in deep into the science. 7:40 this is going in deep into the science. 7:40 this is going in deep into the science. I'm going to make this really simple in 7:42 I'm going to make this really simple in 7:42 I'm going to make this really simple in a moment, but there's something called 7:43 a moment, but there's something called 7:43 a moment, but there's something called predictive processing. 7:45 predictive processing. 7:45 predictive processing. What that means is that our brain is 7:48 What that means is that our brain is 7:48 What that means is that our brain is constantly 7:50 constantly 7:50 constantly predicting what's going to happen based 7:52 predicting what's going to happen based 7:52 predicting what's going to happen based on what happened in the past. 7:55 on what happened in the past. 7:55 on what happened in the past. Uh for instance, when you 7:57 Uh for instance, when you 7:57 Uh for instance, when you read the words on a page, did you know 7:59 read the words on a page, did you know 7:59 read the words on a page, did you know that actually 8:00 that actually 8:00 that actually your brain is not looking at every 8:02 your brain is not looking at every 8:02 your brain is not looking at every single letter 8:03 single letter 8:03 single letter of every single word. It's at some level 8:06 of every single word. It's at some level 8:06 of every single word. It's at some level filling in the gaps, and that's why you 8:07 filling in the gaps, and that's why you 8:07 filling in the gaps, and that's why you can read fast because it's assuming 8:10 can read fast because it's assuming 8:10 can read fast because it's assuming based upon its previous predictions that 8:13 based upon its previous predictions that 8:13 based upon its previous predictions that that word is a word that it recognizes. 8:16 that word is a word that it recognizes. 8:16 that word is a word that it recognizes. It doesn't need to see every single 8:17 It doesn't need to see every single 8:17 It doesn't need to see every single letter. And so, in a similar way, the 8:19 letter. And so, in a similar way, the 8:19 letter. And so, in a similar way, the brain thinks about, well, the last time 8:22 brain thinks about, well, the last time 8:22 brain thinks about, well, the last time that I had 8:23 that I had 8:24 that I had this fatigue, this pain, etc., 8:26 this fatigue, this pain, etc., 8:26 this fatigue, this pain, etc., it was in the presence of a virus or a 8:28 it was in the presence of a virus or a 8:28 it was in the presence of a virus or a bacteria or a threat. So, perhaps now I 8:31 bacteria or a threat. So, perhaps now I 8:31 bacteria or a threat. So, perhaps now I need to continue 8:33 need to continue 8:33 need to continue stimulating the immune system and 8:34 stimulating the immune system and 8:34 stimulating the immune system and nervous system. And that can then lead 8:35 nervous system. And that can then lead 8:35 nervous system. And that can then lead to learned patterns in the brain of 8:37 to learned patterns in the brain of 8:37 to learned patterns in the brain of fatigue, pain, hypervigilance, 8:39 fatigue, pain, hypervigilance, 8:40 fatigue, pain, hypervigilance, dizziness, and so on, sensitivity to the 8:42 dizziness, and so on, sensitivity to the 8:42 dizziness, and so on, sensitivity to the environment, anxiety, burnout. 8:45 environment, anxiety, burnout. 8:45 environment, anxiety, burnout. It's what we call deep conditioned 8:46 It's what we call deep conditioned 8:46 It's what we call deep conditioned neural pathways. So, that's where the 8:49 neural pathways. So, that's where the 8:49 neural pathways. So, that's where the water keeps flowing down the the 8:50 water keeps flowing down the the 8:50 water keeps flowing down the the left-hand path. The river is now 8:53 left-hand path. The river is now 8:53 left-hand path. The river is now continuous. 8:54 continuous. 8:55 continuous. And then, to introduce another concept, 8:56 And then, to introduce another concept, 8:56 And then, to introduce another concept, there's something called salience and 8:58 there's something called salience and 8:58 there's something called salience and inter- inter- interoceptive predictions. 9:01 inter- inter- interoceptive predictions. 9:01 inter- inter- interoceptive predictions. Difficult word to say. 9:03 Difficult word to say. 9:03 Difficult word to say. What that means is the brain constantly 9:04 What that means is the brain constantly 9:04 What that means is the brain constantly looks at, what's the most important 9:06 looks at, what's the most important 9:06 looks at, what's the most important thing I need to focus on right now. 9:08 thing I need to focus on right now. 9:08 thing I need to focus on right now. That's the salience network. 9:10 That's the salience network. 9:10 That's the salience network. And the interoceptive network is, 9:13 And the interoceptive network is, 9:13 And the interoceptive network is, what do I need to be aware of that's 9:15 what do I need to be aware of that's 9:15 what do I need to be aware of that's going on in my body right now? And all 9:17 going on in my body right now? And all 9:17 going on in my body right now? And all of that is predictive predicted 9:19 of that is predictive predicted 9:19 of that is predictive predicted predicted. So, the brain gets stuck in 9:22 predicted. So, the brain gets stuck in 9:22 predicted. So, the brain gets stuck in what it's experienced in the last 24 9:24 what it's experienced in the last 24 9:24 what it's experienced in the last 24 hours or 48 hours and continues to 9:26 hours or 48 hours and continues to 9:26 hours or 48 hours and continues to create that experience because that's 9:28 create that experience because that's 9:28 create that experience because that's what it thinks will keep us safe. And 9:30 what it thinks will keep us safe. And 9:30 what it thinks will keep us safe. And so, the brain gets stuck in these types 9:32 so, the brain gets stuck in these types 9:32 so, the brain gets stuck in these types of pathways. 9:34 of pathways. 9:34 of pathways. Okay, you might say, "Well, what's this 9:35 Okay, you might say, "Well, what's this 9:35 Okay, you might say, "Well, what's this to do with nervous system regulation and 9:36 to do with nervous system regulation and 9:36 to do with nervous system regulation and brain retraining? 9:38 brain retraining? 9:38 brain retraining? So, imagine we are now stuck in a 9:41 So, imagine we are now stuck in a 9:41 So, imagine we are now stuck in a learned response in the brain. The learn 9:43 learned response in the brain. The learn 9:43 learned response in the brain. The learn The brain has learned illness. 9:46 The brain has learned illness. 9:46 The brain has learned illness. And in order to change that, we need to 9:48 And in order to change that, we need to 9:48 And in order to change that, we need to now reroute the river. So, the water's 9:51 now reroute the river. So, the water's 9:51 now reroute the river. So, the water's going down that river, going down that 9:52 going down that river, going down that 9:52 going down that river, going down that river. 9:53 river. 9:53 river. We now need to create a new pathway in 9:56 We now need to create a new pathway in 9:56 We now need to create a new pathway in the brain. 9:57 the brain. 9:57 the brain. A new right-hand path. 9:59 A new right-hand path. 9:59 A new right-hand path. And we need to dig new pathways using 10:02 And we need to dig new pathways using 10:02 And we need to dig new pathways using repetition and emotional 10:04 repetition and emotional 10:05 repetition and emotional uh intensity and consistency. 10:08 uh intensity and consistency. 10:08 uh intensity and consistency. Now, this is where nervous system 10:09 Now, this is where nervous system 10:09 Now, this is where nervous system regulation comes in and is very 10:11 regulation comes in and is very 10:11 regulation comes in and is very important. Because imagine that that 10:13 important. Because imagine that that 10:13 important. Because imagine that that ground where the river is flowing, 10:16 ground where the river is flowing, 10:16 ground where the river is flowing, imagine it's completely frozen. 10:18 imagine it's completely frozen. 10:18 imagine it's completely frozen. And if it's frozen, 10:20 And if it's frozen, 10:20 And if it's frozen, it's very difficult to dig a new river 10:22 it's very difficult to dig a new river 10:22 it's very difficult to dig a new river pathway and divert the river. 10:24 pathway and divert the river. 10:24 pathway and divert the river. So, then what we do 10:26 So, then what we do 10:26 So, then what we do is the purpose of the nervous system
Why Regulation and Retraining Work Together 10:28 is the purpose of the nervous system 10:28 is the purpose of the nervous system regulation, calming down the brain, 10:30 regulation, calming down the brain, 10:30 regulation, calming down the brain, calming down the body, 10:32 calming down the body, 10:32 calming down the body, is it 10:33 is it 10:33 is it thaws the ground. It loosens up the 10:35 thaws the ground. It loosens up the 10:35 thaws the ground. It loosens up the ground. It gets rid of the ice. So, our 10:38 ground. It gets rid of the ice. So, our 10:38 ground. It gets rid of the ice. So, our brains become more neuroplastic, 10:42 brains become more neuroplastic, 10:42 brains become more neuroplastic, more flexible. 10:44 more flexible. 10:44 more flexible. So, imagine that ground is all icy. As 10:46 So, imagine that ground is all icy. As 10:46 So, imagine that ground is all icy. As we regulate our nervous system through 10:49 we regulate our nervous system through 10:49 we regulate our nervous system through breath work, through meditation, through 10:51 breath work, through meditation, through 10:51 breath work, through meditation, through calming exercises, through gentle 10:53 calming exercises, through gentle 10:53 calming exercises, through gentle movement, 10:55 movement, 10:55 movement, all of these are designed to calm the 10:56 all of these are designed to calm the 10:56 all of these are designed to calm the nervous system, 10:58 nervous system, 10:58 nervous system, stimulate then the parasympathetic 10:59 stimulate then the parasympathetic 10:59 stimulate then the parasympathetic nervous system by the vagus nerve, 11:01 nervous system by the vagus nerve, 11:02 nervous system by the vagus nerve, and then enable the brain to loosen up, 11:04 and then enable the brain to loosen up, 11:04 and then enable the brain to loosen up, become more flexible. And then we can 11:05 become more flexible. And then we can 11:05 become more flexible. And then we can start digging the right-hand path. 11:07 start digging the right-hand path. 11:07 start digging the right-hand path. So, that's where nervous system 11:08 So, that's where nervous system 11:08 So, that's where nervous system regulation comes in. But, a lot of 11:10 regulation comes in. But, a lot of 11:10 regulation comes in. But, a lot of people get stuck at that level thinking, 11:12 people get stuck at that level thinking, 11:12 people get stuck at that level thinking, "Well, I'm doing all these amazing 11:14 "Well, I'm doing all these amazing 11:14 "Well, I'm doing all these amazing techniques. Therefore, I should heal, 11:17 techniques. Therefore, I should heal, 11:17 techniques. Therefore, I should heal, whether it's from anxiety or burnout or 11:19 whether it's from anxiety or burnout or 11:19 whether it's from anxiety or burnout or long COVID or any kind of condition 11:21 long COVID or any kind of condition 11:21 long COVID or any kind of condition where there's overstimulation." 11:23 where there's overstimulation." 11:23 where there's overstimulation." However, that's only 11:25 However, that's only 11:25 However, that's only a part a portion of the the story. 11:27 a part a portion of the the story. 11:27 a part a portion of the the story. Because once the ground is loosened up, 11:29 Because once the ground is loosened up, 11:29 Because once the ground is loosened up, we now need to dig that new neural 11:31 we now need to dig that new neural 11:31 we now need to dig that new neural pathway again and again and again. 11:33 pathway again and again and again. 11:33 pathway again and again and again. There's no point unfreezing the ground 11:36 There's no point unfreezing the ground 11:36 There's no point unfreezing the ground but then still allowing the water to go 11:37 but then still allowing the water to go 11:37 but then still allowing the water to go along the left hand path. 11:39 along the left hand path. 11:39 along the left hand path. And that's where 11:40 And that's where 11:40 And that's where consistency and the repetition comes in 11:43 consistency and the repetition comes in 11:43 consistency and the repetition comes in where we're digging the right hand path 11:45 where we're digging the right hand path 11:45 where we're digging the right hand path and making the water flow. And that's 11:47 and making the water flow. And that's 11:47 and making the water flow. And that's where brain retraining becomes very 11:49 where brain retraining becomes very 11:49 where brain retraining becomes very important. So nervous system and 11:51 important. So nervous system and 11:51 important. So nervous system and regulation and brain retraining are not 11:53 regulation and brain retraining are not 11:53 regulation and brain retraining are not opposites, they're not competitors. 11:55 opposites, they're not competitors. 11:55 opposites, they're not competitors. They are completely 11:57 They are completely 11:57 They are completely dependent on each other 11:59 dependent on each other 11:59 dependent on each other to work. 12:01 to work. 12:01 to work. As an example, 12:03 As an example, 12:03 As an example, if you're someone who keeps reacting to 12:05 if you're someone who keeps reacting to 12:05 if you're someone who keeps reacting to a certain person in your life, right? We 12:07 a certain person in your life, right? We 12:07 a certain person in your life, right? We all know that one person that knows how 12:08 all know that one person that knows how 12:08 all know that one person that knows how to press our buttons. 12:10 to press our buttons. 12:11 to press our buttons. We can do all the meditation and all the 12:12 We can do all the meditation and all the 12:12 We can do all the meditation and all the breathing and everything to calm down 12:14 breathing and everything to calm down 12:14 breathing and everything to calm down our nervous system 12:15 our nervous system 12:15 our nervous system which will be very useful and very 12:17 which will be very useful and very 12:17 which will be very useful and very important. But until we then start 12:20 important. But until we then start 12:20 important. But until we then start reflecting on our reactive patterns, 12:23 reflecting on our reactive patterns, 12:23 reflecting on our reactive patterns, start working through them, 12:25 start working through them, 12:25 start working through them, the pathway itself has not changed. The 12:27 the pathway itself has not changed. The 12:27 the pathway itself has not changed. The condition network has not changed. 12:30 condition network has not changed. 12:30 condition network has not changed. And therefore, when we uh relax our 12:33 And therefore, when we uh relax our 12:33 And therefore, when we uh relax our nervous system, 12:34 nervous system, 12:34 nervous system, we 12:35 we 12:35 we open our minds to new insights and to 12:37 open our minds to new insights and to 12:37 open our minds to new insights and to new awarenesses and it helps us then
Research Evidence and Clinical Precedent 12:40 new awarenesses and it helps us then 12:40 new awarenesses and it helps us then retrain and reprogram uh 12:43 retrain and reprogram uh 12:43 retrain and reprogram uh uh 12:45 uh 12:45 uh Yeah. So I think that's where these 12:47 Yeah. So I think that's where these 12:47 Yeah. So I think that's where these these kind of pathways work together and 12:49 these kind of pathways work together and 12:49 these kind of pathways work together and I think that's where it's very exciting. 12:55 And there is precedent for this because 12:55 And there is precedent for this because in neurology we know that in animal 12:57 in neurology we know that in animal 12:57 in neurology we know that in animal studies we're able to 12:59 studies we're able to 12:59 studies we're able to um take, let's say, a rat and we give it 13:03 um take, let's say, a rat and we give it 13:03 um take, let's say, a rat and we give it in inflammatory bowel disease. So 13:05 in inflammatory bowel disease. So 13:05 in inflammatory bowel disease. So they're able to create an irritant in 13:07 they're able to create an irritant in 13:07 they're able to create an irritant in the gut that creates inflammatory bowel 13:08 the gut that creates inflammatory bowel 13:08 the gut that creates inflammatory bowel disease, right? 13:10 disease, right? 13:10 disease, right? And they measure the signature in the 13:11 And they measure the signature in the 13:11 And they measure the signature in the insular part of the brain. 13:14 insular part of the brain. 13:14 insular part of the brain. Then they bring the rats back to 13:15 Then they bring the rats back to 13:15 Then they bring the rats back to baseline 13:16 baseline 13:16 baseline and they just stimulate that part of the 13:19 and they just stimulate that part of the 13:19 and they just stimulate that part of the brain in the insula. This was Dr. Asier 13:21 brain in the insula. This was Dr. Asier 13:21 brain in the insula. This was Dr. Asier Rolls' team that did this. This was 13:22 Rolls' team that did this. This was 13:22 Rolls' team that did this. This was groundbreaking research that should have 13:24 groundbreaking research that should have 13:24 groundbreaking research that should have been made world headlines because it 13:26 been made world headlines because it 13:26 been made world headlines because it proves probably 50% of the illnesses you 13:28 proves probably 50% of the illnesses you 13:28 proves probably 50% of the illnesses you go to see a doctor for was proven by 13:30 go to see a doctor for was proven by 13:30 go to see a doctor for was proven by that one study. 13:31 that one study. 13:31 that one study. And when they restimulated the insula 13:34 And when they restimulated the insula 13:34 And when they restimulated the insula part of the brain, it recreated 13:36 part of the brain, it recreated 13:36 part of the brain, it recreated inflammatory bowel disease in the gut. 13:39 inflammatory bowel disease in the gut. 13:39 inflammatory bowel disease in the gut. Which showed us that when our bodies 13:41 Which showed us that when our bodies 13:41 Which showed us that when our bodies react to the environment, viruses, 13:43 react to the environment, viruses, 13:43 react to the environment, viruses, bacteria, toxins, 13:45 bacteria, toxins, 13:45 bacteria, toxins, it actually creates a particular pathway 13:48 it actually creates a particular pathway 13:48 it actually creates a particular pathway in the brain that if it's restimulated 13:51 in the brain that if it's restimulated 13:51 in the brain that if it's restimulated unnecessarily, it can create the same 13:53 unnecessarily, it can create the same 13:53 unnecessarily, it can create the same immune and nervous system response. 13:55 immune and nervous system response. 13:55 immune and nervous system response. Okay? And there's precedent for this 13:57 Okay? And there's precedent for this 13:57 Okay? And there's precedent for this because during COVID, 13:59 because during COVID, 13:59 because during COVID, uh during that unfortunate time, when 14:01 uh during that unfortunate time, when 14:01 uh during that unfortunate time, when people were were dying from from COVID, 14:04 people were were dying from from COVID, 14:04 people were were dying from from COVID, it wasn't because of the COVID infection 14:06 it wasn't because of the COVID infection 14:06 it wasn't because of the COVID infection per se. 14:07 per se. 14:07 per se. It was the brain over stimulating 14:10 It was the brain over stimulating 14:10 It was the brain over stimulating inflammatory responses through a 14:11 inflammatory responses through a 14:11 inflammatory responses through a cytokine storm in the lungs, which 14:14 cytokine storm in the lungs, which 14:14 cytokine storm in the lungs, which overwhelmed the lungs, reduced oxygen 14:16 overwhelmed the lungs, reduced oxygen 14:16 overwhelmed the lungs, reduced oxygen flow, tightens the airways, and 14:19 flow, tightens the airways, and 14:19 flow, tightens the airways, and eventually left led to asphyxiation. So, 14:21 eventually left led to asphyxiation. So, 14:22 eventually left led to asphyxiation. So, COVID was classic example of when our 14:24 COVID was classic example of when our 14:24 COVID was classic example of when our nervous system and immune system 14:25 nervous system and immune system 14:25 nervous system and immune system overreacts. And in these other chronic 14:28 overreacts. And in these other chronic 14:28 overreacts. And in these other chronic conditions, it's when our nervous and 14:29 conditions, it's when our nervous and 14:29 conditions, it's when our nervous and immune systems overreact in the longer 14:31 immune systems overreact in the longer 14:31 immune systems overreact in the longer term. 14:32 term. 14:33 term. So, in summary, 14:34 So, in summary, 14:34 So, in summary, nervous system regulation 14:36 nervous system regulation 14:36 nervous system regulation is for calming, for safety, for down 14:38 is for calming, for safety, for down 14:38 is for calming, for safety, for down regulation, 14:40 regulation, 14:40 regulation, that then prepares the mind and prepares 14:42 that then prepares the mind and prepares 14:42 that then prepares the mind and prepares the grounds for brain retraining, which 14:44 the grounds for brain retraining, which 14:44 the grounds for brain retraining, which involves the repetition, 14:47 involves the repetition, 14:47 involves the repetition, the emotional shifts, the attentional 14:49 the emotional shifts, the attentional 14:49 the emotional shifts, the attentional shifts in the brain, so we can 14:51 shifts in the brain, so we can 14:51 shifts in the brain, so we can experience safety at a more magnified 14:53 experience safety at a more magnified 14:53 experience safety at a more magnified level. 14:54 level. 14:54 level. And we're also changing the predictive 14:56 And we're also changing the predictive 14:56 And we're also changing the predictive processing of the brain. So, the brain 14:58 processing of the brain. So, the brain 14:58 processing of the brain. So, the brain isn't stuck in what it's always 14:59 isn't stuck in what it's always 15:00 isn't stuck in what it's always experienced in the past and recreating 15:02 experienced in the past and recreating 15:02 experienced in the past and recreating that as a way of predicting safety and a 15:05 that as a way of predicting safety and a 15:05 that as a way of predicting safety and a way that we should live and survival. 15:07 way that we should live and survival. 15:07 way that we should live and survival. Instead, we're creating a new predictive 15:09 Instead, we're creating a new predictive 15:09 Instead, we're creating a new predictive processing code in the brain, so it 15:11 processing code in the brain, so it 15:11 processing code in the brain, so it learns that this is what we want. This 15:13 learns that this is what we want. This 15:13 learns that this is what we want. This is the new 15:14 is the new 15:15 is the new safety that we want to experience. So, 15:17 safety that we want to experience. So, 15:17 safety that we want to experience. So, this is where we have active 15:18 this is where we have active 15:18 this is where we have active neuroplastic learning, changing those 15:21 neuroplastic learning, changing those 15:21 neuroplastic learning, changing those predictive patterns and processing 15:23 predictive patterns and processing 15:23 predictive patterns and processing interrupting those conditioned 15:24 interrupting those conditioned 15:24 interrupting those conditioned responses. And that's what we do through 15:26 responses. And that's what we do through 15:26 responses. And that's what we do through brain retraining. It's training the 15:28 brain retraining. It's training the 15:28 brain retraining. It's training the brain when it got stuck. So, in summary,
Angus's Recovery Story 15:31 brain when it got stuck. So, in summary, 15:31 brain when it got stuck. So, in summary, the brain can get stuck. 15:34 the brain can get stuck. 15:34 the brain can get stuck. It learns how to over-respond. It learns 15:36 It learns how to over-respond. It learns 15:36 It learns how to over-respond. It learns illness, and it can unlearn illness 15:40 illness, and it can unlearn illness 15:40 illness, and it can unlearn illness essentially. And that's where, you know, 15:42 essentially. And that's where, you know, 15:42 essentially. And that's where, you know, as you know, we've done seven clinical 15:43 as you know, we've done seven clinical 15:43 as you know, we've done seven clinical studies, five randomized controlled 15:44 studies, five randomized controlled 15:44 studies, five randomized controlled trials. You read all of that on our 15:46 trials. You read all of that on our 15:46 trials. You read all of that on our website, and that can explain to you and 15:49 website, and that can explain to you and 15:49 website, and that can explain to you and show you how we're not just saying this 15:51 show you how we're not just saying this 15:51 show you how we're not just saying this is a hypothesis, but actually we've got 15:53 is a hypothesis, but actually we've got 15:53 is a hypothesis, but actually we've got lots of clinical proof behind this now, 15:55 lots of clinical proof behind this now, 15:55 lots of clinical proof behind this now, as well. So, once again, we'd love for 15:57 as well. So, once again, we'd love for 15:57 as well. So, once again, we'd love for you to share this on your social media, 15:59 you to share this on your social media, 15:59 you to share this on your social media, with your friends, your family, perhaps 16:02 with your friends, your family, perhaps 16:02 with your friends, your family, perhaps on different groups, different patient 16:04 on different groups, different patient 16:04 on different groups, different patient groups, because we really want to get 16:05 groups, because we really want to get 16:05 groups, because we really want to get the word out about helping people 16:07 the word out about helping people 16:07 the word out about helping people understand that nervous system 16:08 understand that nervous system 16:08 understand that nervous system regulation is a very important part of 16:10 regulation is a very important part of 16:10 regulation is a very important part of the healing process, but it's not the 16:12 the healing process, but it's not the 16:12 the healing process, but it's not the whole story by any stretch, and the the 16:15 whole story by any stretch, and the the 16:15 whole story by any stretch, and the the two work together. All right? 16:18 two work together. All right? 16:18 two work together. All right? Okay, what I'm going to do is I'm now 16:19 Okay, what I'm going to do is I'm now 16:19 Okay, what I'm going to do is I'm now going to share 16:20 going to share 16:20 going to share a little video from someone who has 16:24 a little video from someone who has 16:24 a little video from someone who has navigated this particular journey and 16:28 navigated this particular journey and 16:28 navigated this particular journey and has experienced exactly this in terms of 16:31 has experienced exactly this in terms of 16:31 has experienced exactly this in terms of looking at 16:33 looking at 16:33 looking at the various um 16:35 the various um 16:35 the various um differences between the two. So, this is 16:37 differences between the two. So, this is 16:37 differences between the two. So, this is a little interview with someone called 16:38 a little interview with someone called 16:38 a little interview with someone called Angus. He's going to just share his his 16:40 Angus. He's going to just share his his 16:40 Angus. He's going to just share his his story. 16:42 story. 16:42 story. >> Well, hi there, Angus. Thank you so much 16:44 >> Well, hi there, Angus. Thank you so much 16:44 >> Well, hi there, Angus. Thank you so much for taking out some time of your day to 16:47 for taking out some time of your day to 16:47 for taking out some time of your day to join us. 16:49 join us. 16:49 join us. So, yeah, first we'd just love to know 16:51 So, yeah, first we'd just love to know 16:51 So, yeah, first we'd just love to know briefly a bit about your your story, 16:52 briefly a bit about your your story, 16:52 briefly a bit about your your story, like when you got unwell, what 16:55 like when you got unwell, what 16:55 like when you got unwell, what condition, and as a contrast, kind of 16:58 condition, and as a contrast, kind of 16:58 condition, and as a contrast, kind of how you're feeling now. 17:00 how you're feeling now. 17:00 how you're feeling now. >> Well, my story I start it started about 17:03 >> Well, my story I start it started about 17:03 >> Well, my story I start it started about 15 years ago. 17:05 15 years ago. 17:05 15 years ago. Um 17:06 Um 17:06 Um I was doing a lot of 17:08 I was doing a lot of 17:08 I was doing a lot of work. I was doing a lot of exercise, 17:11 work. I was doing a lot of exercise, 17:11 work. I was doing a lot of exercise, and these things sort of came together, 17:15 and these things sort of came together, 17:15 and these things sort of came together, and 17:16 and 17:16 and I kind of I got to a point where I 17:18 I kind of I got to a point where I 17:18 I kind of I got to a point where I couldn't really 17:19 couldn't really 17:19 couldn't really Well, actually, I was I was running one 17:21 Well, actually, I was I was running one 17:21 Well, actually, I was I was running one night and and my legs stopped working, 17:23 night and and my legs stopped working, 17:23 night and and my legs stopped working, basically. So, that was the start of it. 17:26 basically. So, that was the start of it. 17:26 basically. So, that was the start of it. Literally stopped working. I had to drag 17:27 Literally stopped working. I had to drag 17:27 Literally stopped working. I had to drag myself back home. And 17:30 myself back home. And 17:30 myself back home. And yeah, from that point, I mean, I got to 17:32 yeah, from that point, I mean, I got to 17:32 yeah, from that point, I mean, I got to a very low point where I was kind of 17:35 a very low point where I was kind of 17:35 a very low point where I was kind of literally I couldn't eat at all. So, I 17:37 literally I couldn't eat at all. So, I 17:37 literally I couldn't eat at all. So, I was on liquids. So, yeah, I mean, a 17:40 was on liquids. So, yeah, I mean, a 17:40 was on liquids. So, yeah, I mean, a recovery for me at one stage was getting 17:42 recovery for me at one stage was getting 17:42 recovery for me at one stage was getting into a wheelchair to get out of the 17:44 into a wheelchair to get out of the 17:44 into a wheelchair to get out of the house. So, it was a seriously 17:47 house. So, it was a seriously 17:47 house. So, it was a seriously debilitating illness at that time. So. 17:51 debilitating illness at that time. So. 17:51 debilitating illness at that time. So. >> Right, I see. 17:52 >> Right, I see. 17:53 >> Right, I see. And how would you kind of contrast that 17:56 And how would you kind of contrast that 17:56 And how would you kind of contrast that to now in terms of what you're able to 17:58 to now in terms of what you're able to 17:58 to now in terms of what you're able to do and how your life is now? 18:01 do and how your life is now? 18:01 do and how your life is now? >> Yeah, I mean, the 18:03 >> Yeah, I mean, the 18:03 >> Yeah, I mean, the just so much so much beauty and 18:06 just so much so much beauty and 18:06 just so much so much beauty and gratitude in my life at the moment. 18:09 gratitude in my life at the moment. 18:09 gratitude in my life at the moment. Um 18:10 Um 18:10 Um What I mean, tonight I went I mean, 18:13 What I mean, tonight I went I mean, 18:13 What I mean, tonight I went I mean, literally tonight I went down with my 18:15 literally tonight I went down with my 18:15 literally tonight I went down with my family and we went down to the beach. We 18:19 family and we went down to the beach. We 18:19 family and we went down to the beach. We I mean, the beaches are so beautiful 18:21 I mean, the beaches are so beautiful 18:21 I mean, the beaches are so beautiful here in Australia and we went kangaroo 18:25 here in Australia and we went kangaroo 18:25 here in Australia and we went kangaroo watching. And my daughter's just there 18:27 watching. And my daughter's just there 18:27 watching. And my daughter's just there with a 18:28 with a 18:28 with a you know, 18:30 you know, 18:30 you know, a doodle pad drawing pictures of 18:31 a doodle pad drawing pictures of 18:32 a doodle pad drawing pictures of kangaroos and the the joy and the 18:34 kangaroos and the the joy and the 18:34 kangaroos and the the joy and the gratitude to have that health to go 18:37 gratitude to have that health to go 18:37 gratitude to have that health to go walking down by the beach with my family 18:40 walking down by the beach with my family 18:41 walking down by the beach with my family um 18:42 um 18:42 um after spending the day with them as 18:44 after spending the day with them as 18:44 after spending the day with them as well. It's um with a with a school 18:46 well. It's um with a with a school 18:46 well. It's um with a with a school event, you know, just 18:47 event, you know, just 18:47 event, you know, just Yeah, um yeah, yeah, my my life is a lot 18:50 Yeah, um yeah, yeah, my my life is a lot 18:50 Yeah, um yeah, yeah, my my life is a lot more fulfilled with energy and 18:53 more fulfilled with energy and 18:53 more fulfilled with energy and enthusiasm and laughter. 18:59 >> Lovely. What a beautiful 18:59 >> Lovely. What a beautiful What a beautiful story. And what were 19:00 What a beautiful story. And what were 19:01 What a beautiful story. And what were you eventually diagnosed with? 19:03 you eventually diagnosed with? 19:03 you eventually diagnosed with? >> Um it was 19:06 >> Um it was 19:06 >> Um it was So, they called it at the time chronic 19:07 So, they called it at the time chronic 19:07 So, they called it at the time chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. So, 19:11 fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. So, 19:11 fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. So, it's, you know, ME, so, yeah. 19:14 it's, you know, ME, so, yeah. 19:14 it's, you know, ME, so, yeah. >> And before you kind of came to the Gupta 19:16 >> And before you kind of came to the Gupta 19:16 >> And before you kind of came to the Gupta program, did you Had you tried other 19:19 program, did you Had you tried other 19:19 program, did you Had you tried other healing modalities? Had you had tried 19:21 healing modalities? Had you had tried 19:21 healing modalities? Had you had tried any kind of nervous system regulation 19:22 any kind of nervous system regulation 19:22 any kind of nervous system regulation type stuff? 19:25 type stuff? 19:25 type stuff? >> Yeah, I 19:27 >> Yeah, I 19:27 >> Yeah, I um hadn't really No, I I was under the 19:30 um hadn't really No, I I was under the 19:30 um hadn't really No, I I was under the doctor's um 19:32 doctor's um 19:32 doctor's um medication, and I can't actually 19:33 medication, and I can't actually 19:34 medication, and I can't actually remember what it was called that I was 19:36 remember what it was called that I was 19:36 remember what it was called that I was taking, but um 19:37 taking, but um 19:37 taking, but um I was getting desperate for things. I 19:39 I was getting desperate for things. I 19:39 I was getting desperate for things. I was taking I got um you know, tablets, 19:42 was taking I got um you know, tablets, 19:42 was taking I got um you know, tablets, and I was just taking them and hoping 19:44 and I was just taking them and hoping 19:44 and I was just taking them and hoping for the best. So, I had no idea of 19:47 for the best. So, I had no idea of 19:47 for the best. So, I had no idea of For me, coming into the Gupta program, 19:49 For me, coming into the Gupta program, 19:49 For me, coming into the Gupta program, thought um looking at thoughts, looking 19:52 thought um looking at thoughts, looking 19:52 thought um looking at thoughts, looking at meditation 19:55 at meditation 19:55 at meditation was completely new. Nervous system 19:57 was completely new. Nervous system 19:57 was completely new. Nervous system regulation, I I I was not aware of these 20:00 regulation, I I I was not aware of these 20:00 regulation, I I I was not aware of these things. No, it was all new for me. Yeah. 20:02 things. No, it was all new for me. Yeah. 20:02 things. No, it was all new for me. Yeah. Yeah. 20:03 Yeah. 20:03 Yeah. >> Mhm. And as you were kind of taking the 20:05 >> Mhm. And as you were kind of taking the 20:05 >> Mhm. And as you were kind of taking the journey, I guess you kind of see these 20:08 journey, I guess you kind of see these 20:08 journey, I guess you kind of see these pieces fit together. So, in the program, 20:09 pieces fit together. So, in the program, 20:09 pieces fit together. So, in the program, we talk about how does the dove fly? 20:11 we talk about how does the dove fly? 20:11 we talk about how does the dove fly? Well, it needs three things. It needs 20:13 Well, it needs three things. It needs 20:13 Well, it needs three things. It needs the left and right wing, and it needs 20:15 the left and right wing, and it needs 20:15 the left and right wing, and it needs the tail feathers for a direction. And 20:18 the tail feathers for a direction. And 20:18 the tail feathers for a direction. And the wings are obviously nervous system 20:20 the wings are obviously nervous system 20:20 the wings are obviously nervous system regulation and brain retraining. So, as 20:21 regulation and brain retraining. So, as 20:21 regulation and brain retraining. So, as you came into the program, obviously in 20:23 you came into the program, obviously in 20:23 you came into the program, obviously in the program, we start with the nervous 20:25 the program, we start with the nervous 20:25 the program, we start with the nervous system regulation and and the somatic 20:27 system regulation and and the somatic 20:27 system regulation and and the somatic retraining, 20:29 retraining, 20:29 retraining, and then we move on to kind of more 20:30 and then we move on to kind of more 20:30 and then we move on to kind of more in-depth retraining. How did When you 20:33 in-depth retraining. How did When you 20:33 in-depth retraining. How did When you first started, how did you think these 20:34 first started, how did you think these 20:34 first started, how did you think these jigsaw pieces fitted together, and how 20:37 jigsaw pieces fitted together, and how 20:37 jigsaw pieces fitted together, and how how did it flow for you? 20:39 how did it flow for you? 20:39 how did it flow for you? >> Yeah, um when I first started, um I was 20:42 >> Yeah, um when I first started, um I was 20:42 >> Yeah, um when I first started, um I was um 20:43 um 20:43 um trying to stop the thoughts in the brain 20:45 trying to stop the thoughts in the brain 20:45 trying to stop the thoughts in the brain retraining sense. 20:46 retraining sense. 20:47 retraining sense. Um and I worked with um a 20:51 Um and I worked with um a 20:51 Um and I worked with um a absolutely wonderful person called Deb 20:53 absolutely wonderful person called Deb 20:53 absolutely wonderful person called Deb My Arm, and she helped to guide me with 20:57 My Arm, and she helped to guide me with 20:57 My Arm, and she helped to guide me with the nervous system um 21:00 the nervous system um 21:00 the nervous system um regulation. We started to find safe 21:03 regulation. We started to find safe 21:03 regulation. We started to find safe spaces. Um she taught me about safe 21:05 spaces. Um she taught me about safe 21:05 spaces. Um she taught me about safe spaces. Um 21:07 spaces. Um 21:07 spaces. Um we used to use she uses a wonderful tool 21:10 we used to use she uses a wonderful tool 21:10 we used to use she uses a wonderful tool where we look around a room and we find 21:13 where we look around a room and we find 21:13 where we look around a room and we find you know, relaxing or calm safe objects 21:16 you know, relaxing or calm safe objects 21:16 you know, relaxing or calm safe objects in the room. So, I worked I I understood 21:20 in the room. So, I worked I I understood 21:20 in the room. So, I worked I I understood it with that and then I started to use 21:22 it with that and then I started to use 21:22 it with that and then I started to use that 21:24 that 21:24 that and then I used 21:25 and then I used 21:25 and then I used to use the brain retraining as well in 21:27 to use the brain retraining as well in 21:27 to use the brain retraining as well in conjunction with it. So, yeah. Yeah, it 21:30 conjunction with it. So, yeah. Yeah, it 21:30 conjunction with it. So, yeah. Yeah, it worked that way. 21:31 worked that way. 21:31 worked that way. >> Fantastic. So, you saw how they they 21:33 >> Fantastic. So, you saw how they they 21:34 >> Fantastic. So, you saw how they they kind of interconnect and how they How 21:36 kind of interconnect and how they How 21:36 kind of interconnect and how they How would you say them dependent on each 21:37 would you say them dependent on each 21:37 would you say them dependent on each other? The nervous system regulation and 21:39 other? The nervous system regulation and 21:39 other? The nervous system regulation and the brain retraining. 21:41 the brain retraining. 21:41 the brain retraining. >> Um 21:43 >> Um 21:43 >> Um well, absolutely because I 21:46 well, absolutely because I 21:47 well, absolutely because I I mean 21:49 I mean 21:49 I mean Yeah, but 21:50 Yeah, but 21:50 Yeah, but it it's like kind of sowing the seed or 21:53 it it's like kind of sowing the seed or 21:53 it it's like kind of sowing the seed or or laying the foundations. 21:55 or laying the foundations. 21:55 or laying the foundations. Um 21:56 Um 21:56 Um being in the right being in the right 21:57 being in the right being in the right 21:57 being in the right being in the right state to be able to see these parts or 22:03 state to be able to see these parts or 22:03 state to be able to see these parts or these thoughts. Um 22:06 these thoughts. Um 22:06 these thoughts. Um if we haven't regulated our system 22:10 if we haven't regulated our system 22:10 if we haven't regulated our system in very can become identified with it 22:13 in very can become identified with it 22:13 in very can become identified with it and very difficult then to retrain at 22:15 and very difficult then to retrain at 22:15 and very difficult then to retrain at that point. So, it's it's kind of like, 22:17 that point. So, it's it's kind of like, 22:17 that point. So, it's it's kind of like, you know, um 22:19 you know, um 22:19 you know, um you So, it's just laying the foundations 22:22 you So, it's just laying the foundations 22:22 you So, it's just laying the foundations with the regulation and just being able 22:24 with the regulation and just being able 22:24 with the regulation and just being able to 22:25 to 22:25 to calm the system like I mean in laughter 22:27 calm the system like I mean in laughter 22:27 calm the system like I mean in laughter yoga I would say I would say, you know, 22:29 yoga I would say I would say, you know, 22:29 yoga I would say I would say, you know, turning down the dial, turning down the 22:31 turning down the dial, turning down the 22:31 turning down the dial, turning down the dial and then being able to retrain 22:33 dial and then being able to retrain 22:33 dial and then being able to retrain them. So, that the you know, this is the 22:35 them. So, that the you know, this is the 22:35 them. So, that the you know, this is the regulation dial we just turn it down. 22:37 regulation dial we just turn it down. 22:37 regulation dial we just turn it down. So. 22:38 So. 22:38 So. >> Mm. 22:40 >> Mm. 22:40 >> Mm. Yeah, that's a lovely way of putting it 22:41 Yeah, that's a lovely way of putting it 22:41 Yeah, that's a lovely way of putting it actually. I like that. 22:43 actually. I like that. 22:43 actually. I like that. Um 22:44 Um 22:44 Um What kind of role do you think 22:45 What kind of role do you think 22:45 What kind of role do you think repetition and consistency 22:48 repetition and consistency 22:48 repetition and consistency plays in in progress and recovery? 22:50 plays in in progress and recovery? 22:50 plays in in progress and recovery? Because obviously in the the program we 22:51 Because obviously in the the program we 22:51 Because obviously in the the program we talk a lot about people having dips, 22:54 talk a lot about people having dips, 22:54 talk a lot about people having dips, people feeling disheartened and then 22:57 people feeling disheartened and then 22:57 people feeling disheartened and then kind of 22:58 kind of 22:58 kind of falling off the wagon as it were. How 23:00 falling off the wagon as it were. How 23:00 falling off the wagon as it were. How did repetition and consistency matter in 23:03 did repetition and consistency matter in 23:03 did repetition and consistency matter in in your recovery? 23:05 in your recovery? 23:05 in your recovery? >> Yeah, I am 23:08 >> Yeah, I am 23:08 >> Yeah, I am I grew to love the the meditations and 23:12 I grew to love the the meditations and 23:12 I grew to love the the meditations and I 23:13 I 23:13 I I was very I have to be clear and and 23:15 I was very I have to be clear and and 23:15 I was very I have to be clear and and honest. I was very very disciplined like 23:18 honest. I was very very disciplined like 23:18 honest. I was very very disciplined like I 23:19 I 23:19 I you know I I 23:20 you know I I 23:21 you know I I I like my meditations now and I'll start 23:23 I like my meditations now and I'll start 23:23 I like my meditations now and I'll start my day with meditations and end it as 23:26 my day with meditations and end it as 23:26 my day with meditations and end it as well 23:27 well 23:27 well and I was 23:28 and I was 23:28 and I was I was doing 23:30 I was doing 23:30 I was doing I would say I was probably doing three 23:32 I would say I was probably doing three 23:32 I would say I was probably doing three times a day a meditation in the morning 23:35 times a day a meditation in the morning 23:35 times a day a meditation in the morning a meditation around lunch time and one 23:38 a meditation around lunch time and one 23:38 a meditation around lunch time and one in the evening and then obviously brain 23:40 in the evening and then obviously brain 23:40 in the evening and then obviously brain retraining in and around that as well so 23:42 retraining in and around that as well so 23:42 retraining in and around that as well so I was 23:43 I was 23:44 I was keen and I was you know I was pretty 23:46 keen and I was you know I was pretty 23:46 keen and I was you know I was pretty thorough with that and but it was 23:48 thorough with that and but it was 23:48 thorough with that and but it was helping me so and I was enjoying it. You 23:51 helping me so and I was enjoying it. You 23:51 helping me so and I was enjoying it. You know finding the joy as well finding the 23:53 know finding the joy as well finding the 23:53 know finding the joy as well finding the enjoyment and the laughter and the fun 23:55 enjoyment and the laughter and the fun 23:55 enjoyment and the laughter and the fun in it. And finding the and the community 23:58 in it. And finding the and the community 23:58 in it. And finding the and the community as well and interacting I've been 24:00 as well and interacting I've been 24:00 as well and interacting I've been interacted with literally hundreds of 24:03 interacted with literally hundreds of 24:03 interacted with literally hundreds of people on the Gupta program. It's been a 24:05 people on the Gupta program. It's been a 24:05 people on the Gupta program. It's been a great part of my life to be honest with 24:07 great part of my life to be honest with 24:07 great part of my life to be honest with you as I've recovered and um 24:10 you as I've recovered and um 24:10 you as I've recovered and um I I'm really grateful for that but but 24:12 I I'm really grateful for that but but 24:12 I I'm really grateful for that but but by immersing myself in it um I know you 24:16 by immersing myself in it um I know you 24:16 by immersing myself in it um I know you you know obviously I've been on webinars 24:18 you know obviously I've been on webinars 24:18 you know obviously I've been on webinars with yourself and it's been 24:20 with yourself and it's been 24:20 with yourself and it's been well it needs to be like cleaning your 24:21 well it needs to be like cleaning your 24:21 well it needs to be like cleaning your teeth and I definitely become became 24:23 teeth and I definitely become became 24:23 teeth and I definitely become became like that for me so 24:26 like that for me so 24:26 like that for me so that was it was a big part discipline 24:28 that was it was a big part discipline 24:28 that was it was a big part discipline was repetition yeah. 24:30 was repetition yeah. 24:30 was repetition yeah. >> Yeah and we see that as the critical 24:32 >> Yeah and we see that as the critical 24:32 >> Yeah and we see that as the critical success factor we ask people who 24:34 success factor we ask people who 24:34 success factor we ask people who recovered 24:35 recovered 24:35 recovered we sometimes people expect there's going 24:37 we sometimes people expect there's going 24:37 we sometimes people expect there's going to be some magical thing that they say 24:39 to be some magical thing that they say 24:39 to be some magical thing that they say or some new revelation so you sort of 24:41 or some new revelation so you sort of 24:41 or some new revelation so you sort of keep at it keep consistent. It's like 24:44 keep at it keep consistent. It's like 24:44 keep at it keep consistent. It's like you know you're training your brain it's 24:45 you know you're training your brain it's 24:45 you know you're training your brain it's like learning a musical instrument or 24:46 like learning a musical instrument or 24:46 like learning a musical instrument or learning a piece of music or learning a 24:48 learning a piece of music or learning a 24:48 learning a piece of music or learning a a song it's that repetition that then 24:50 a song it's that repetition that then 24:50 a song it's that repetition that then brings it deep into your brain your 24:52 brings it deep into your brain your 24:52 brings it deep into your brain your nervous system and then it becomes a new 24:54 nervous system and then it becomes a new 24:54 nervous system and then it becomes a new habit that your your body follows and 24:57 habit that your your body follows and 24:57 habit that your your body follows and as you say it's that it's that 24:58 as you say it's that it's that 24:58 as you say it's that it's that discipline, that repetition that really 25:00 discipline, that repetition that really 25:00 discipline, that repetition that really makes it. 25:02 makes it. 25:02 makes it. >> Great. And what advice would you have 25:03 >> Great. And what advice would you have 25:04 >> Great. And what advice would you have for people then who are thinking about, 25:06 for people then who are thinking about, 25:06 for people then who are thinking about, you know, they might be thinking about 25:08 you know, they might be thinking about 25:08 you know, they might be thinking about just doing nervous system regulation 25:09 just doing nervous system regulation 25:09 just doing nervous system regulation because there's a lot of things out 25:10 because there's a lot of things out 25:10 because there's a lot of things out there that are just focused on that? 25:13 there that are just focused on that? 25:13 there that are just focused on that? Or they're thinking, you know, just 25:14 Or they're thinking, you know, just 25:14 Or they're thinking, you know, just brain retraining. Is it different? Is 25:16 brain retraining. Is it different? Is 25:16 brain retraining. Is it different? Is that the important piece? How would you 25:18 that the important piece? How would you 25:18 that the important piece? How would you What advice would you give them? 25:20 What advice would you give them? 25:20 What advice would you give them? >> Um 25:22 >> Um 25:22 >> Um Uh yeah, I mean, 100% is just first 25:26 Uh yeah, I mean, 100% is just first 25:26 Uh yeah, I mean, 100% is just first I I'll spend time now in my in my um 25:30 I I'll spend time now in my in my um 25:30 I I'll spend time now in my in my um meditations and just just taking the 25:32 meditations and just just taking the 25:32 meditations and just just taking the time to become in your body. I I 25:35 time to become in your body. I I 25:35 time to become in your body. I I actually did um I did some chi gong 25:37 actually did um I did some chi gong 25:37 actually did um I did some chi gong qualifications and just to just becoming 25:40 qualifications and just to just becoming 25:40 qualifications and just to just becoming into your getting into your body, taking 25:43 into your getting into your body, taking 25:43 into your getting into your body, taking the time first to regulate your system 25:47 the time first to regulate your system 25:47 the time first to regulate your system prior to retraining. And And you know, 25:51 prior to retraining. And And you know, 25:51 prior to retraining. And And you know, no pressure and no worries. This might 25:53 no pressure and no worries. This might 25:53 no pressure and no worries. This might take It might like turning down the dial 25:55 take It might like turning down the dial 25:55 take It might like turning down the dial might take a bit of time, you know, and 25:58 might take a bit of time, you know, and 25:58 might take a bit of time, you know, and just do what you can. So, if it takes, 26:01 just do what you can. So, if it takes, 26:01 just do what you can. So, if it takes, say, 25 minutes of 26:03 say, 25 minutes of 26:04 say, 25 minutes of regulation and then just 5 minutes of 26:06 regulation and then just 5 minutes of 26:06 regulation and then just 5 minutes of retraining and then just being aware of 26:08 retraining and then just being aware of 26:08 retraining and then just being aware of how you're going to oscillate between 26:10 how you're going to oscillate between 26:10 how you're going to oscillate between the two, basically. And 26:13 the two, basically. And 26:13 the two, basically. And sometimes it might be the opposite way 26:14 sometimes it might be the opposite way 26:14 sometimes it might be the opposite way around. It might be 25 minutes. You 26:16 around. It might be 25 minutes. You 26:16 around. It might be 25 minutes. You know, it's just being aware of what's 26:18 know, it's just being aware of what's 26:18 know, it's just being aware of what's right for you and just sort of laying 26:21 right for you and just sort of laying 26:21 right for you and just sort of laying the foundations with the regulation and 26:24 the foundations with the regulation and 26:24 the foundations with the regulation and then obviously that the retraining comes 26:26 then obviously that the retraining comes 26:26 then obviously that the retraining comes afterwards effectively. 26:28 afterwards effectively. 26:28 afterwards effectively. >> Mhm. 26:30 >> Mhm. 26:30 >> Mhm. Great. And yeah, so as you mentioned, 26:32 Great. And yeah, so as you mentioned, 26:32 Great. And yeah, so as you mentioned, you're now living, you know, a fuller 26:34 you're now living, you know, a fuller 26:34 you're now living, you know, a fuller life, you're able to do most things. Um 26:37 life, you're able to do most things. Um 26:37 life, you're able to do most things. Um and and how does that feel? 26:39 and and how does that feel? 26:39 and and how does that feel? >> It's just amazing. I mean, I I did 26:41 >> It's just amazing. I mean, I I did 26:42 >> It's just amazing. I mean, I I did I mean, as you can gather, a lot of my 26:43 I mean, as you can gather, a lot of my 26:43 I mean, as you can gather, a lot of my things around I I when I Matilda, my 26:47 things around I I when I Matilda, my 26:47 things around I I when I Matilda, my daughter, is like nine. She was nine the 26:49 daughter, is like nine. She was nine the 26:49 daughter, is like nine. She was nine the other um day. And 26:52 other um day. And 26:52 other um day. And I had a lot of upset around not being 26:55 I had a lot of upset around not being 26:55 I had a lot of upset around not being able to be a dad to her when I was 26:57 able to be a dad to her when I was 26:57 able to be a dad to her when I was obviously been ill for 15 years, so that 26:59 obviously been ill for 15 years, so that 26:59 obviously been ill for 15 years, so that was, you know, 27:01 was, you know, 27:01 was, you know, she came along during the illness, and 27:04 she came along during the illness, and 27:04 she came along during the illness, and that was really upsetting to be a father 27:06 that was really upsetting to be a father 27:06 that was really upsetting to be a father to my daughter is the best thing. I 27:11 to my daughter is the best thing. I 27:11 to my daughter is the best thing. I cannot tell you. 27:13 cannot tell you. 27:13 cannot tell you. I, you know, it just she had a birthday 27:16 I, you know, it just she had a birthday 27:16 I, you know, it just she had a birthday party the other day, 27:18 party the other day, 27:18 party the other day, and there was 13 children there, and I'm 27:21 and there was 13 children there, and I'm 27:21 and there was 13 children there, and I'm there. I mean, these are just memories 27:23 there. I mean, these are just memories 27:23 there. I mean, these are just memories that will stick with me forever, and I'm 27:25 that will stick with me forever, and I'm 27:25 that will stick with me forever, and I'm cutting this cake, and just, you know, 27:27 cutting this cake, and just, you know, 27:27 cutting this cake, and just, you know, these hungry kids all around me and 27:29 these hungry kids all around me and 27:29 these hungry kids all around me and handing it out, and I'm just think this 27:31 handing it out, and I'm just think this 27:31 handing it out, and I'm just think this is a 3-hour party with kids running 27:33 is a 3-hour party with kids running 27:33 is a 3-hour party with kids running around at a pool here in Australia and 27:36 around at a pool here in Australia and 27:36 around at a pool here in Australia and lovely warm weather, and kids are just 27:38 lovely warm weather, and kids are just 27:38 lovely warm weather, and kids are just having having cake off me, and I just 27:40 having having cake off me, and I just 27:40 having having cake off me, and I just thought this 27:42 thought this 27:42 thought this is what I always wanted, to be honest 27:44 is what I always wanted, to be honest 27:44 is what I always wanted, to be honest with just to be a father to my daughter, 27:46 with just to be a father to my daughter, 27:46 with just to be a father to my daughter, and, you know, is the most pri- is 27:49 and, you know, is the most pri- is 27:49 and, you know, is the most pri- is priceless. Absolutely priceless, so 27:51 priceless. Absolutely priceless, so 27:51 priceless. Absolutely priceless, so yeah. And thank you, Ashok, for that as 27:53 yeah. And thank you, Ashok, for that as 27:53 yeah. And thank you, Ashok, for that as well. 27:54 well. 27:54 well. >> Yeah, thank you, and congratulations to 27:56 >> Yeah, thank you, and congratulations to 27:56 >> Yeah, thank you, and congratulations to you for keeping up that consistency and 27:58 you for keeping up that consistency and 27:59 you for keeping up that consistency and that momentum to get to where you are. 28:02 that momentum to get to where you are. 28:02 that momentum to get to where you are. So, thank you, Angus. It's been so 28:04 So, thank you, Angus. It's been so 28:04 So, thank you, Angus. It's been so lovely to have a chat with you, to get 28:06 lovely to have a chat with you, to get 28:06 lovely to have a chat with you, to get your your reflections on this topic 28:08 your your reflections on this topic 28:08 your your reflections on this topic today, and I wish you all the best in 28:10 today, and I wish you all the best in 28:10 today, and I wish you all the best in the future. 28:12 the future. 28:12 the future. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 28:13 >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 28:13 >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you.
Program Access, Installment Plan, and Q&A Invitation 28:41 Okay, well, that was also a really 28:41 Okay, well, that was also a really touching story from from Angus there. 28:44 touching story from from Angus there. 28:44 touching story from from Angus there. So, really beautiful to 28:45 So, really beautiful to 28:45 So, really beautiful to to kind of have his reflections and his 28:47 to kind of have his reflections and his 28:47 to kind of have his reflections and his input. And what like you to know now is 28:50 input. And what like you to know now is 28:50 input. And what like you to know now is that 28:51 that 28:51 that we're going to be having a live event 28:53 we're going to be having a live event 28:53 we're going to be having a live event with Q&A with myself 28:55 with Q&A with myself 28:55 with Q&A with myself on Zoom right now. So, our team will 28:57 on Zoom right now. So, our team will 28:57 on Zoom right now. 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And then secondly, 29:44 And then secondly, 29:44 And then secondly, we have weekly webinars with myself and 29:47 we have weekly webinars with myself and 29:47 we have weekly webinars with myself and so on. So, love for you to join us on 29:49 so on. So, love for you to join us on 29:49 so on. So, love for you to join us on Zoom right now. So, if you can our team 29:51 Zoom right now. So, if you can our team 29:51 Zoom right now. So, if you can our team going to share the Zoom link in the 29:52 going to share the Zoom link in the 29:52 going to share the Zoom link in the chat, we'll be going on Zoom for a live 29:55 chat, we'll be going on Zoom for a live 29:55 chat, we'll be going on Zoom for a live Q&A and we'll be introducing our 29:57 Q&A and we'll be introducing our 29:57 Q&A and we'll be introducing our installment plan where you can pay for 29:58 installment plan where you can pay for 29:58 installment plan where you can pay for the program in installments, as well. 30:00 the program in installments, as well. 30:00 the program in installments, as well. Now, some people in the comments are 30:01 Now, some people in the comments are 30:01 Now, some people in the comments are talking about trauma and the importance 30:03 talking about trauma and the importance 30:03 talking about trauma and the importance of trauma and I just want to 30:13 our program is 30:13 our program is trauma informed in the sense that most 30:14 trauma informed in the sense that most 30:14 trauma informed in the sense that most of our coaches, they work one-on-one 30:16 of our coaches, they work one-on-one 30:16 of our coaches, they work one-on-one with people, as well, and 30:19 with people, as well, and 30:19 with people, as well, and we make sure that people understand that 30:21 we make sure that people understand that 30:21 we make sure that people understand that trauma and understanding how trauma fits 30:23 trauma and understanding how trauma fits 30:23 trauma and understanding how trauma fits into the jigsaw puzzle is very important 30:25 into the jigsaw puzzle is very important 30:25 into the jigsaw puzzle is very important part of healing and so that is important 30:27 part of healing and so that is important 30:27 part of healing and so that is important part of our program, as well. So, once 30:29 part of our program, as well. So, once 30:29 part of our program, as well. So, once again, please do share this on your 30:30 again, please do share this on your 30:30 again, please do share this on your social media with people around you and 30:34 social media with people around you and 30:34 social media with people around you and let them know now that we have this 30:36 let them know now that we have this 30:36 let them know now that we have this installment program. So, if our team 30:37 installment program. So, if our team 30:37 installment program. So, if our team could also just share a link to the page 30:39 could also just share a link to the page 30:40 could also just share a link to the page with the installment program 30:41 with the installment program 30:41 with the installment program where you can pay for the program over 30:43 where you can pay for the program over 30:43 where you can pay for the program over the space of 6 months to make it more 30:45 the space of 6 months to make it more 30:45 the space of 6 months to make it more affordable. That would be great as well. 30:52 Okay, so thank you so much to everybody 30:52 Okay, so thank you so much to everybody for watching and 30:55 for watching and 30:55 for watching and and listening. I I think this is a 30:56 and listening. I I think this is a 30:57 and listening. I I think this is a slight technical issue. You may not be 30:58 slight technical issue. You may not be 30:58 slight technical issue. You may not be able to see me right now, but hopefully 30:59 able to see me right now, but hopefully 30:59 able to see me right now, but hopefully you can still hear me. So once again, 31:01 you can still hear me. So once again, 31:01 you can still hear me. So once again, please do share the link uh 31:04 please do share the link uh 31:04 please do share the link uh to our installment plan and we'll see 31:08 to our installment plan and we'll see 31:08 to our installment plan and we'll see you on Zoom very shortly. So there you 31:10 you on Zoom very shortly. So there you 31:10 you on Zoom very shortly. So there you are. There you can see the link to the 31:11 are. There you can see the link to the 31:11 are. There you can see the link to the installment plan and that gives you an 31:13 installment plan and that gives you an 31:13 installment plan and that gives you an opportunity to spread the payments out 31:15 opportunity to spread the payments out 31:15 opportunity to spread the payments out and we really want to make sure that 31:16 and we really want to make sure that 31:16 and we really want to make sure that sure this there's no barriers and it's 31:18 sure this there's no barriers and it's 31:18 sure this there's no barriers and it's accessible as possible. And with whether 31:20 accessible as possible. And with whether 31:20 accessible as possible. And with whether you buy the program up front or you buy 31:22 you buy the program up front or you buy 31:22 you buy the program up front or you buy using the installment program, we do 31:24 using the installment program, we do 31:24 using the installment program, we do offer a one-year money-back guarantee. 31:26 offer a one-year money-back guarantee. 31:26 offer a one-year money-back guarantee. So our program is a 3-to-6 month 31:27 So our program is a 3-to-6 month 31:27 So our program is a 3-to-6 month program. After 6 months, if you don't 31:30 program. After 6 months, if you don't 31:30 program. After 6 months, if you don't have improvement, you can return the 31:31 have improvement, you can return the 31:31 have improvement, you can return the program, no questions asked. And 31:34 program, no questions asked. And 31:34 program, no questions asked. And finally, when people return the program, 31:36 finally, when people return the program, 31:36 finally, when people return the program, they used to say, "Well, we have to send 31:38 they used to say, "Well, we have to send 31:38 they used to say, "Well, we have to send it abroad if they're based in US or 31:40 it abroad if they're based in US or 31:40 it abroad if they're based in US or Canada." But we now have a returns 31:41 Canada." But we now have a returns 31:41 Canada." But we now have a returns address in the US as well, so it's very 31:44 address in the US as well, so it's very 31:44 address in the US as well, so it's very cheap and easy to return the program, 31:46 cheap and easy to return the program, 31:46 cheap and easy to return the program, have a refund, and then you can spend it 31:48 have a refund, and then you can spend it 31:48 have a refund, and then you can spend it on something else. So 31:49 on something else. So 31:49 on something else. So really looking forward to seeing you on 31:51 really looking forward to seeing you on 31:51 really looking forward to seeing you on Zoom. I hope you get an opportunity to 31:52 Zoom. I hope you get an opportunity to 31:52 Zoom. I hope you get an opportunity to start the program and we have our 31:54 start the program and we have our 31:54 start the program and we have our webinar series starting on Monday the 31:56 webinar series starting on Monday the 31:56 webinar series starting on Monday the 1st of June, so it's now is a great time 31:58 1st of June, so it's now is a great time 31:58 1st of June, so it's now is a great time over the next few days to join us. We'll 32:00 over the next few days to join us. We'll 32:00 over the next few days to join us. We'll be starting our weekly webinars on 32:01 be starting our weekly webinars on 32:01 be starting our weekly webinars on Monday. 32:03 Monday. 32:03 Monday. So thank you so much everyone for 32:04 So thank you so much everyone for 32:04 So thank you so much everyone for watching and we'll see you again soon on 32:06 watching and we'll see you again soon on 32:06 watching and we'll see you again soon on the Zoom. 32:08 the Zoom. 32:08 the Zoom. We'll see you in about 10 minutes on the 32:10 We'll see you in about 10 minutes on the 32:10 We'll see you in about 10 minutes on the Zoom link. 32:11 Zoom link. 32:11 Zoom link. Thanks, everyone. Bye.
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