Nobel Prize-Winning Discovery: This ENERGY Field Heals Cells! l Todd Shipman l Ep #433

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Welcome back. I'm Natalie Nidam, your host. Quantum. Just hearing the word is enough to make most of us either lean in or immediately check out. But hang on a sec. What if the thing that feels the most abstract is actually shaping your biology every single day? Today, I am joined by Todd Shipman, who originally entered the quantum space to debunk it. and ended up completely rethinking how the body, energy and even connection itself actually work. We get into what the quantum field really is in plain English, how coherence impacts your health, and why modern life might be creating more noise in your system than you realize.

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Check out the show notes below for details and enjoy the. Todd Shipman, welcome back to the Show. It is a pleasure to have you here today. Thanks for having me, Natalie. Talk to us about quantum, the quantum field, like, whatever makes sense in that. In that sphere. Yeah. It's definitely, uh, kind of, unfortunately the truth is I think is when people hear quantum it's an instant ick, you know, of like ah, cause there's, As I always use a claim that there's just a lot of unethical marketing in the alternative space when it comes to health stuff

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and people are utilizing the word quantum in many ways that are not relevant and they're just kind of using the buzzword of quantum. Yeah. And it kind of hurts the rest. It really muddies the water in a way. So anytime I'm scrolling through, I see quantum. Even now, like I am totally involved with this, but I know that quantum patch that, quote unquote, blocks EMFs, that's just not the way it works. company or idea that they're trying to use with this so let's just start with like quantum energy and quantum Energy is the energy at basically a subatomic level so it's like the Energy behind the matter on a visual level we can make that is let say we have a piece of paper We take a number two lead pencil and we start drawing on it.

The quantum aspect is the space in between the lead and the paper. It's almost like this vibration energy that exists. Yeah, it's literally with the vibration of the cells. That's what kind of activates that. positive energy. It's not a negative energy, but that's where the benefits that we see come because it's neutral. So it is actually neutralizing. And anything that comes into this field, so we go back into the quantum field in a moment, I'll come back to that, it neutralizes. That means anything is what we would call disruptive waveform patterns or anything inhibiting any kind of coherence.

Let's talk a bit about coherences, what that means, right? And why is that important? I mean, emotional coherency is very important. right so that we are in alignment with our beliefs and our thoughts and actions when we get alignment between those two things we feel better we can act from integrity we're more comfortable we could be healthier so when you talk about coherence in this sense Maybe explain, you know, help us to understand when there's a lack, when There's dissonance or a Lack of coherence in energy fields, as it were.

How can might that affect us or our ability to function or or things to work properly. Think of it, honestly, if it's great, I would almost prefer we can keep it at a very surface level until we want to dive deeper into things. But think of literally as we have a calm lake. It's nice, a pond, and we throw a big rock in there. And then you get all of this chaos and disruptiveness, right? And that's where it underneath all that, it still smooth at the top or the waves. causes disruption instead of the connection, the calmness, that the fluidity of everything with like coherence.

It's just kind of, it's a smooth action. Think of it like that in a way, right? So everything is combined. Everything is agreeable but then you you throw something in there and it causes chaos and a lot of that tends to i think most people connect that with like maybe microwaves or cell phones self towers like those are disruptive waveform patterns that get into our field our biofield our quantum field like the quantum fields all that stuff and and that is where We see where quantum can neutralize that in the space that it hits.

That's where I'd love to offer another analogy if I could. And you tell me if it makes sense. So let's say you throw one rock into the lake and you get these beautiful concentric circles, right? And to some degree there's order in that. In that, and the way that dissipates, but when you. A rock. And then a boulder and then something else. You now have all these different types of waves coming at each other. And now you get into this world where you. That kind of what you're talking about chaos, where.

Yeah. Bashing into each. Different angles and there's a loss of. It's almost like the lake can handle a single pebble. But now when you get like a whole bunch of stuff coming in there, that's when get this crazy disruption. And when we were just describing the non-native EMFs or whatever these other energy inputs that our bodies and our field is dealing with, You can imagine that this is like a series of a variety of different things coming at our field. And do we have limitations within our fields of mitigating or neutralizing or absorbing or, you know, like you, know what I'm saying here?

Like is there, is it, it's all, and this why I think you get all these people wearing like disks or and we'll talk about, we can talk a little bit about devices because you mentioned that earlier and I But, you know, when people talk about blocking versus, in your world, and whether it's the Lila world or the quantum world. You're talking about harmonizing. We are going to build resilience in the system by allowing the field to harmonize all of these things that are around you. So I don't know if that analogy made any sense to you, but if No, that's great.

Because I think I can see where my fault is, because also at the same time when you throw a rock in, the beautiful waves and vibrations that do occur is a positive thing. And they're ordered, right? And eventually dissipate. There is symmetry to it. So for me, it was more like, OK, well, if you get a bunch of different size things and a whole bunches of stuff happening at that same, time that when we start to see that chaos kind of happen. Yeah. And we can equate that to what we're dealing with now in modern life, which is not something people would have had to have dealt with, I don't know, 50 or 100 years ago.

Yeah, because like you're saying with non-native EMS, they're coming from so many different places, different frequencies,

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levels of depth that it's hitting us and the way our body is responding to it. It's all invisible and silent in a way. And there's only a few ways that we can quantify that. That's even affecting us. But those are becoming more common and common for people to see. There are people who are energy sensitive and some people are not. Who wouldn't ever notice it. And then there's people who don't even see like, Oh, I got anxiety or my throat closes or whatever it is. It's like ends up being a physical response to the body from again, the disruptive waveform patterns and just harming our bodies.

So hopefully people kind of have a bit more of a visual, if you will, on, what we're talking about. Let's get back to. The quantum field, quantum energy, and then we'll move into the quantum entanglement theory that whole. Yeah. Yeah, I think the quantum field became the term of it. It's also become a lot more popular with like Joe Dispenza, right? Because he uses that term quite often of like accessing coming into the Quantum field to put like any types of manifestation, any wants, desires, things like that.

And, you know, the quantum field is basically with like quantum energy. It's just been around, think about like the ether, like it's been a round since existence. We're just, I would say the majority of us are so distracted by everything else that's going on that we're not present enough to even realize that there's this entire space basically around us that has other things. That, which we will step into further later when we talk about quantum entanglement just acknowledges that because that is where all of quantum entitlement occurs is in the quantum field.

So it is just space ether. That is constantly surrounding us. It's just, I think. me involved i mean all that included is is we're not like so aware and present in our life that it's like oh right here i can grab this i Can do this and i? Can put things out and that might sound really weird and I understand that because I got into this world to debunk everything you know over 10 years ago and because it sounded really silly and to realize when you see like the studies that have been done and then again the the Nobel Prize and everything where they're doing these things across the world, you realize that there is in the quantum field, there no such thing as time and distance.

And that's also really a lot of this stuff. It's like none of us is theory. it's all been shown and proven. But it also forces us, it definitely forced me to basically just re-evaluate how I view life. Because when you can see and just see all the stuff that happens, again, with quantum entanglement or access to the quantum field, you're like, that is not anything we're taught. That is anything that we are even talking about, but what's available to us. So it really makes us, especially with Quantum Entangling, I really Still now, it's so crazy.

And it is like, how do we see the world the same way? It's kind of like if you've gone out and done some extreme psychedelic, right? So like five MEO DMT, where you get to experience the dissolving into everything. How do you come back to the real world? it takes a lot of post integration with that right i think very similar a little excessive as an example but when you see and understand like what this is doing and this Is not an everyday thing it's almost like the same if we were to see aliens like how do we if We actually witness aliens come up to our house right like we don't see the world the Same way anymore now that we know that that's a real thing and I feel like that's exactly what happens with quantum entanglement, because it sounds weird.

Quantum entanglements sounds very woo, sounds false to me. At least that was my presentation to it. It was like, that sounds really goofy. If you're using a sauna and you are not following a specific protocol around it, you ARE sweating, but you may not actually be supporting detoxification properly. And that's a problem, because the difference between a session that just makes you hot and one that genuinely moves the needle on your health comes down to a few key steps that most people are NOT putting into practice.

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Because you said you came into this 10 years ago to debunk it, right? So what did you see, feel, or experience that make you rethink your position? For me, it was so much about accessing the quantum field and our bio field. And what I had done was I'd done a blood test. Now, this isn't a Harvard or Stanford-style study, but it something I did myself. It was very like, okay, there's something to this. And at the time I had this quantum necklace that I was like, I'm gonna, these poor guys, i'm going to show them how, you know, they're scamming everyone and every yada yata.

And that was my mindset. So I spent the money and I got these spectra cell micronutrient tests. I don't know what they cost now, but back then they were like four to $600 a test and I paid for all these. And I did this test for about a year and a half where I got my baseline of everything and saw all my micronutrient nutrients where was deficient in and then got the first test. Then I started wearing this necklace. Also, I'm a very monotonous eater at this time. I'd eat the same thing all the time and had no problem doing that.

So it was very consistent. And after the first 40 days of wearing this, you know, quantum necklace that had all, basically it had, all the micronutrients that you needed in life, like involved with the frequencies in it, right? So that was the, the test was like, okay, after 40, days go get tested and see what happens. And, and after first forty days, everything was optimal. Nothing was toxic or too high. Everything was perfectly long and the optimal range. Wow. So then I waited another 40 days and I got the same test.

It was optimal. Did another forty days. Was optimal and then i took the necklace off and stopped wearing it and when I did that and i got retested everything went back to the baseline that it was prior so I was deficient in the very same um vitamins or micronutrients I was before so that was my first like okay there's some again not stanford studies nothing of that sort but it was enough for me to go there is definitely something to this and dig deeper that it's not going to be a complete scam and it When you talk to someone like Philip, he's like, well, yeah, or even talk about iron, right?

I ends like what simple science really like that's always a favorite. Right. It's not. But yeah. That's his thing is that simple. Science really. And it's, like. So how does this work? You know, and I is like well because it is putting out the vibration and frequency. of those vitamins we view things as a physical object right instead of if we can see and acknowledge and accept at least in this conversation that everything is vibration frequencies right then that can shift things and there's communication with these vibrations and frequencies and wavelengths That can also, I'm gonna step back for a second, Natalie, because if that sounds weird to people, think about how maybe more relatable is let's talk about the sun.

It comes in different wavelengths during the day. That's not a physical thing, it's a wavelength. And it is going into our eyes at a certain wavelength for UVA, UVB, right? And that now triggers our body and sends communication in our bodies to work with cholesterol to create vitamin D. Now, none of that was a physically thing. It was all invisible waveforms, and wavelengths. And that is exactly kind of what we're doing here with like these quantum products or the one I technically originally used was it was these frequencies and vibrations of these micronutrients that my body still utilize and send messages to that be needed.

And, you know, again, that can sound silly, but it's like, we can show this over and over again with tests and Yeah, no, that's it. That's a very I don't even know that you've ever told me that before. But that some really interesting example. And so did that device or that capsule need to be programmed in a specific way? Or? Yeah. You know, well, The behind the curtain, I guess, with a lot of these products is they're very protected. I understand that with the technology and them being a business.

So that guy and that gentleman was very an interesting gentleman in all ways of life. And this was just one of many things he did and charged and created. But no one has ever like explained how they do this. That's the same thing with Lila Quantum and with quantum upgrade is like, you know, that's that is the proprietary technology. It's their IP. Yeah, and that is also why the balls in the court of all these people to be doing the studies they do is to show and prove that it's working. Because, you know, You can't really just sit there and hope someone trusts you.

You know? It's like, Okay, well, Here's the studies and here's what shows that it works. And so with that, that specific one, I had no idea how it was charged.

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He had the machine that he invented, he lived in Arizona. His name was Brian Johnson, an older gentleman. Not, not the many five or six other famous Brian Johnson's in the health space. This guy was not, but he, you know, that's what got me into all this with like, okay, there's definitely something to it. And when you talk to these people, they're like well, yeah, like it makes total sense. Like, They're not even surprised. Even though I see it, I'm still surprised to stay. I See the studies that like this, the research and stuff that, Ian does with these and it's just like how is that possible?

And, uh, it's really cool to see. Okay. So did we, have we unpacked the quantum field quantum energy, quantum entanglement, like quantum fields, Quantum Energy. One of the things, one of other analogies I can come up with. It's like the extracellular matrix in your body. All your cells exist. Yeah, that's great. Energetically. That's a great one, Natalie. Yeah, I'm always looking for that. Can we help people to visualize somehow? But even and it's not even as physical as that as the extracellular matrix, because it is an energetic version of it, is what it would be.

And we can tap into, you know, in traditional Chinese medicine, where we talk about energy meridians, that run through the fascia of our bodies that can that ultimately can affect everything in the body and how it works. And you know, if for anybody who's experienced acupuncture or myofascial release, like that kind of stuff, That stuff is wildly powerful. I'd love to touch on some of the research, but I want to talk to you on the Nobel Prize because Nobel Prizes don't get handed out to hacks, right?

Like at the end of day, Nobel prize gets handed because somebody has identified, has clearly identified and articulated the existence or a discovery of some kind. And, you know, to call this a discovery is hilarious because it's been around since before there was an around to be had. And so what it is, is someone who is able to finally capture an explanation and an expression of this that could be quantified by science so that people get their heads around it. So maybe we talk about that next, like the Nobel Prize that was won.

Well, this quantum entailment, because we use that word quite often now, and it's really just like when you have two objects, we're talking about on a cellular level at the most part, but they remain connected, right? Like as an informational coherence, independent of distance. And that's the key point. So like there doesn't have to be close to each other. Um, and I'm going to step back again more time with that because like for me, my experience with this is entanglement is so I have twin daughters.

They're 13 now and before I was introduced to any of this stuff, just the most oddest things would happen. I mean, I think anyone with parents that are twins can tell you like, it's a science experience of nature versus nurture all the time. But then also like just, the connection twins have. My twins at one point, one I, was with one of them and the other was out on like a, on a little bored, I'm blanking out right now, like a skateboard, right? And was just kind of going around and she was young and was outside, but out of nowhere, the twin that I was with just kinda like fell over and started screaming and held her arm and I didn't understand what was going on because it was out nowhere.

And she's just yelling that her arms hurt. I would say like three minutes later the other twin came in, with the broken arm because she had crashed and fell and had literally her arm was literally aren't like it was, you know, I'm as a dad, like, oh my gosh, but because there was this dangle in there and snapped in the middle. And they always, if they're in a different room, the same house, they'd wake up instantaneously with each other. Like within seconds, all throughout the day and night and stuff, it's just a connection.

They go to sleep right away. Everything was I guess in a way connected without them knowing and me even knowing what that was, but looking back at all this stuff, I'm like, yeah. And you know, they've done studies with twins where you can take one on the East coast and another on West coast on one of the east coast. You tell that one to sit down in the chair and the one the West Coast without that same, without the same command sits down, like because that's just as really action is where it's told.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I learned about that stuff. That was stuff I started reaching about when after the arm break and like wasn't really into that. Wasn't studies of quantum entanglement, but it was studies with twins. And there's so much of that where you can say one to something or one twin and the other one regurgitates it somewhere else, like because it's the connection of entanglements, right? I know my mother has this uncanny ability to know when things are going sideways and I get a call.

And in her case, she may be more in touch with it for whatever reason. You spoke earlier about how we're so caught up in the world. We're being bombarded with all these different things. We lose our awareness of that connection and so then it becomes less meaningful or impactful to us. But there are some people, and you even talked about people who are more sensitive to energy and things like that, you get other people like my mom, who and other who, for whatever reason, have held on to that connection energetically.

And so it makes them more nosy, but it also means that they have a different sense of the world in a way than the rest of us. So I would invite the audience to think about, are there people in your life? Are there instances in life where you chalk it up to a coincidence? But is it a coincidence or is maybe something that broke through that you're not accustomed to? So now let's go to the Nobel Prize. Sorry. Yeah. And again, that's a great example you just used because there's all, everyone knows like, oh, when we think about these people and they call us, like everyone's had that situation for everyone.

Right. It's like. Okay. So what is, how do we quantify that? That's the challenge. How do you measure these things in a scientific way? There's always a challenge with it, but you at least have these personal experiences where it's like, well, it was a coincidence. Well, its coincidence, but nothing's a coincidence. And it there's always something deeper behind it, right. That's actually a really good example you use as a mother. I don't have that experience. But you're right, that's entirely true.

It's as mother, I can imagine you are entangled with the cells and might like to talk about before mitochondria, so it is just another little you.

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we have their cells in our body, right? There's just, there's a paper that just came out that that talked about how moms, and I think moms carry cells of their sons in their body for life. And mother's mitochondria is passed down to the children. And so we share mitochondria, we shared mitochondrial DNA. So I mean, I'm getting into the real esoteric here, but when we're gonna talk about the entanglement piece, it starts to make sense, right? Like some of the experiments that were done, now like you've got like and like in two completely different places and yet energetically, there's a field that connects.

So anyway, take it away. Yeah. And that's pretty much like you're saying, the like and like in different places. Um, and that is exactly where the study was because the, study it was in 20, what was before, but the reward, award was, uh, Nobel prize award in physics was awarded in 2022, right? So for the research on quantum entanglement and it's what they had done was they had taken a cell that was in Austria, I believe, and then they have someone over, this happened to be in Walnut Creek, California, which randomly is very near where I'm at, but it's just east of San Francisco by like an hour.

And they had this they call like they're coming from the same event. So almost in the way of like a family. Right. These two cells together, but they are separated and they were able to basically they shot this laser at the little cell in Austria and instantaneous, which is another cool fact as I'll come back to that. The cell that is not in that same environment but over in Walnut Creek, California, is instantaneously responding to that laser that is not at that cell. What did the laser do to the first cell?

Well, it was just, well, think of it as like, yeah, I mean, so they did a laser, but think about it in a simpler way, they use the light. But think if we had like a really like microscopic needle and you poked it. Like, that might respond it, as if it had all Yeah, a responded as it been exposed to laser. Yeah. Um, uh, some are always like, yeah, if you poke something and something else across the world instantly felt it right. Uh, then, um, kind of like they do with like the voodoo dolls, right?

I was literally going to the Voodoo doll right then. Yeah yeah and so you know that when they talk about instantaneous and before I mentioned that in the quantum field there's no such thing as like time and distance and we can argue that the information travels faster than the speed of light. Now, the only reason anyone could truly argue that is the speed of light is a measurement from point A to point B. When the quantum field, there is no distance. So everything is instantaneous. Yeah. Distance isn't relevant at all.

We could be, again, extreme. You could talk about something that's over in Pluto or in another galaxy. And we as humans, we create concepts so that we can better understand time and distance, But in the greater scheme of things, that doesn't exist. And so it's instantaneously is it reaches the other like in that in a quantum field. So that's what I think is also really cool. This is the part when you're speaking from the stage where you turn to the audience and go, Okay, guys, are you still with me?

Right? Yeah, because because some people will be fascinated and some People will scratching their heads and then other people will be like, are you freaking kidding me right now? So, you know, there were a couple of big points that really got me thinking, okay, I'm willing to speak about this. I am willing use it. And I have to go back to the science because otherwise it's just too much for my brain to manage. and the Nobel Prize research and then there was another experiment that was done that I that you talk about and I don't know if it's something that your chief science officer I and Mitchell did for you or it was something else but was there not another cellular experiment where there was an increase in generation of ATP of a cell at distance from another cell that was stimulated.

And do you want, can you speak to that a little bit? Because this again, you know, guys, really what we really want you to think about, and then we're going to talk about what this means. Like, what does this mean to us? How do we tap into it? And what happens when we do? because at the end of the day, it's all about okay, but why do I, why should I care? Right? Yes. So, I mean, really, that's what it boils down to. I agree to that. 100%. Yeah. Like, why should I care? This is all really great. It's super esoteric.

Why? Okay. But this idea that you can, it's one thing to see a cell respond to a laser, but this ideal that there's an instant, this continuum of time and space, that just takes away the, you know, it's a little Star Trek-y kind of thing. It just removes those obstacles and now we have an energetic connection that weaves everything, that connects everything together instantaneously. Yeah, we're much closer and more connected than we tend to think we are, right? Again, it's this entanglement, this fabric of everything that we are all connected, but we're also separated physically.

And I think that's where I initially had these challenges too, where it was like, because I'm very science minded and I want to see all this stuff, like it helps for sure. But I also, I always have this biggest smile when I talk about this because it is crazy. It's so crazy to like see the studies and be like but how? Like how and it still always the You can see these things happen and you can we see this real time studies that we can show and it's against like okay but how like how is it still doing this like that's where i think it gets so overwhelming but so cool but what the study with the ATP that was done and this was one of our first ones we did with.

We did another one unknowingly about quantum entanglement that I can talk about, but this, because that's what kind of brought into how this is really cool and how we were doing this stuff before I even really understood the quantum entitlement. But so Ian was mildly involved. He usually manages a lot of the studies and figures out like, this are the measurements, here's how to quantify the data and all of this. but it's also not him prefer of performing the research, but he had someone that was capable of doing this at Tulsa University.

So you have a professor there that ran this study. And what we saw, we did multiple studies with this gentleman and there was, so one thing that we was that, and I wanna make sure that don't cross the concept of quantum entanglement. What we're showing the studies, technically the study are showing, the benefits of Quantum Energy, But it was performed through quantum entanglement. So I just, I don't want to mince words on this where it's not like, okay. Quantum entanglement is what created the ATP production.

It was the quantum energy exposure through Quantum Entangling. Meaning there was no quantum-energy device in the room. We were able to quantum and tangibly bring it in and we saw with a certain study they did up to an increase of 29% of ATP production and with the cells that were running. The other one that they at the same time is the wound healing study where they scratched a cell and again delivered quantum energy through quantum entanglement. And we saw a two time increase in the actual healing process.

The ATP example, was there a cell in one place and a sell in another place? And you did something to the one cell? What? So what? This was delivering. Okay, so what was it? Yeah, well, what, What was the experiment? Sorry. So we had a baseline, they have a base line of how much ATP a cell in the typical area is producing, right? And then what we did is we took another cell at a different time, same location though, and we basically, through quantum entanglement, which again, I understand this is, well I wanna make sure if there's any questions that we touch on this, because I don't wanna overwhelm anyone with it, but so basically we have baseline numbers of everything.

And then we brought in the other cell and quantum entangled basically through it with quantum energy. So what that does is basically with a quantum, energy, as we mentioned before, is the benefits come as neutralizing. You have this cell now that is kind of, I've used the term before but it basically is bubble wrapped from external stressors. So if there's EMFs, wifi, cell phones, all that, that are causing unknown or unseeable stresses on that cell, which for something like that is lesser ATP production or slower wound healing.

But if we're able to, through quantum entanglement, deliver the quantum energy to that specific location, then it is able to produce up to 29% more ATP than the other one did without the quantum energy or quantum entanglement. And the same thing with the wound healing. Now that also doesn't mean, again, I'm speaking very carefully because I want to make sure that this is understood, right? So we're not saying that quantum Is producing twenty nine percent or that quantum energy is is healing two times faster what it's doing is it putting your body back in its natural state so we can do that because if you have a if let's say we get a cut on our hand and.

I'm sitting here where I met right now and I have literally five computers. I Have a Wi Fi router and all of that that is attacking my body like your mitochondria has to say, well, okay, we can't focus entirely today on fixing that cut because we also have to protect from the EMS with the symptoms and we have other things we Have to do. So we're our focus can be 100% on that wound healing today. And it'll still be healed, but it takes slower. Now, if you put me in the same spot with all my computers and I am surrounded by quantum energy, now that mitochondria can say, oh, what's on the to-do list today?

Let's fix that heal. Like, let's heal that cut. Or, wow, you can have more ATP production. So it's putting us back more at a natural state. And I just want to make sure that's very clear because I don't want mix the words of like, we're not saying that the quantum is what forced it. It's just providing an environment where your body can do what it's supposed to do without the external stressors. Yeah. I think what I'm hearing is, what you're doing is you reducing the burden of dealing 100% with external factors that are, that, Again, like it's what we talked about earlier, they throw us out of balance, right?

And the body's always looking to be in homeostasis. And a cell that's in homostasist doesn't have to expend energy to stay there. So what you're essentially doing is if we, when we talk about the effect of, for example, non-native EMFs or like Wi-Fi routers and stuff like that, It affects the calcium gated channels. It effects the way that the cell behaves. And so the cells has to somehow balance that out. So all that energy the sell is expending to balance out is energy that it doesn't have to perform the other jobs in the body that need to be performed right now.

What you're really saying is that quantum entanglement, which is the suc that allows this instantaneous transference of messaging or energy or whatever the case may be, is by activating that or accessing that field, we now open ourselves to the possibility that an energy can be delivered that allows to bring more balance to a system so that the system can now be free to perform other things.

EMFs, brain waves, and neutralizing stressors 36:48

Yeah, that's a great way to put it. It's kind of like a bridge of communication and the process. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Cool. So what else? Are there other experiments you want to talk about? Because I have a bunch of questions at the end of the day about what it is that we're talking about here and can people actually access this stuff or do they have to go get a lobotomy so they no longer believe what they just believe? Yeah though the most recent study we did, which is also amazing. It's really one of the more exciting ones to show it because even though again, all of this is based off of our studies are showing like, what does an actual device or product that is, you know, generating quantum energy do?

Okay, so you can purchase a product, You can have that physically. But what we're talking about with the quantum entanglement also means there's nothing like nothing physical, it's all done. Yeah. Yeah, right. So think of cell phone to cellphone in a way. You don't have to have something. It's still going between you and I. We're still conversing. Even though we have a physical cell-phone, the transaction part is all wireless, so entanglement. What we're talking about is almost wireless communication in way, but it's also not.

But that's a surface-level way to understand it. The more recent study we did is this was done in Austria. We had to do a lot of studies, by the way, are done in Austria and Europe because of access and cost of things here. We tried to get like Andrew Hill from the Peak Brain Institute and Jim Hart from Bio Cyber not to these studies for us. But they were just like, we don't have the the technology that you're looking for is to advance known United States has and that's true. brain scanning device that just doesn't exist anywhere in the United States.

And we looked for it because honestly, it'd be easier to be doing this stuff in United states than having to to transfer and send people all this way. But what we did was is we took the newest iPhone and we put it up about a half an inch, probably a little farther than what would typically unless we're on speaker, which is still affecting us. but if we have the phone up to our head and We did that for about 30 minutes and What we saw was a crazy amount. We'll go into the numbers in a second, but when that happens, and this is things with EMFs, because you're talking about calcium channels and everything prior, one way we can look at it is our brain waves.

What happens when you are exposed to EMS, for the specific one that we did, did for 30 minutes is we saw that the beta and the gamma just went wild. And for people, I know that might not be too understanding, but beta, gamma, or what caused anxiety. Yeah. So beta gamma are the brain wavelengths that when we're anxious, stressed, upset, angry, kind of more on the negative emotions, those kind are the more active. And when you have those active, alpha is suppressed and alpha, and of course, just like our heart rate, we don't want to have a stagnant or static number of everything.

So we want them to be fluid. But when your around EMS, your alpha drops significantly. kind of it's more of like our flow state. It's our calmness. it helps us be in a parasympathetic again so we can heal. We can retain information better when we're in alpha. So it's beneficial to at least be able to have access to Alpha more so than the others, but it sounds like you just only want to be in this one place just to clear. So for 30 minutes and we had done similar tests with Lila Quantum and then we'd bring in the block or something and that we could do the test.

And this time we did it with the quantum upgrade, which is the service that's based solely off of quantum entanglement. Normally what we would do is we turn on the technology so that it is hitting the access of that person. And we would wait a few minutes, like maybe 10 or 20 minutes and then we'd retest and the people running the test were like, let's do this instantly. Like, Let's see where it's at instantly because we were thinking it might take a little short time to see the effects. We know it hits them instantly, But we weren't sure how fast the results would be.

And they were instantaneous, which is really cool. So what we saw by activating the quantum energy exposure through quantum entanglement was the gamma. The gamma wavelengths, they went down 77.6%. We had the beta went down 82.9% and then alpha increased 1300%. No kidding. And did the person feel it? Did they feel different? No. I wouldn't say they felt different with the brain waves in terms of that, because again, I still think like people aren't as present with, even when you have anxiety, like at least not everyone.

When you see them, it's like, okay, why am I anxious right now? You know, It's usually EMFs, but we're also so used to random emotions that we don't really sit there and be present on what they're feeling. The world we live in is so crazy right. Now. We're all kind of normalizing in some way, shape or form being at a much more activated state than arrest and digest as a baseline. If you really think about it, most of us have to take a time out. We have go sit, close our eyes, do some breath work, maybe do a heart math session, whatever it looks like for you, that way that you have center yourself and come back to your middle.

In a perfect world, we would operate from that center. Right? But I think in the world that we live in right now, we tend to have normalized operating from this much more activated state where, to your point, your beta and your gamma waves are elevated. And that could be why sometimes we're not as creative. We're as calm. we are not well thought out as we would like to be. So that's a really fascinating example, though. It really highlights how the quantum entanglement works in a sense that when you keep saying there's no time and space, It should be instantaneous, right?

Like you would expect that even though nobody expected, you know what I mean? I think. Yeah. Well, we didn't expect the results to kick in. Like we thought that it could take a little bit for the gamma and the beta to balance out everything. Right. Yeah, so it also shows like how fast our brain does respond to things, because it's like, think of it as like a Faraday cage. It's in a second, it' all gone and you take it out and it''s active again, right? Like if you have a phone. So it is very similar, like it just shut off as if it basically acted as the EMFs were not in the area instantaneously.

uh, recovery time, which is kind of what we, I mean, i would still assume like, yeah, you need a few minutes to your body to recover. It's like if you go sprint a hundred, a 100 yards, like you, your heart rate needs a Few minutes through a cover back down, but we saw this was instantaneous. And also to be fair, don't think they asked the lay, um, the like the lady and the other people they were doing this with like specifically, how are you feeling before and after at least it wasn't registered, But also I I'm, just not sure.

Like, Yeah, they may have had anxiety after 30 minutes of a phone, Yeah, how present people can be with that. So I'm going to ask you a question for those people who are not watching the podcast. Todd has the evil AirPods in his ears. And I, I mean, unless I end the Apple watch, but I think anyone who has spent time in the wellness space right now understands putting a cell phone to your head is a really bad idea. I mean, certainly within our circles, you don't do that. Now there's also a really powerful narrative that says those AirPods are communicating with each other.

They're shooting stuff into your head between each. There are really bad idea. Like I, you know, I won't wear them. So I'm, and I know that you wear. Because of your. because of the world that you operate in and how the access that have to quantum allows your body to not be subjected to those negative effects. So do you want to speak to that a little bit? I'm putting you on the spot. We didn't say- No, absolutely. You're probably the first person to ever mention that. But we have these conversations and I usually talk about when I am doing podcasts or anything with people, it's like, You know, there's two routes, because I'm definitely not into fear mongering.

I am way more focused on the importance of like just education of everything and giving people solutions and whatnot. So, I mean, cause also at the same time, like I also very anti-EMF. Like I was part of the whole aspect where I lived in Fairfax, California, which is one of, it was the only, at least even just a few years ago, the on least town in the world that banned smart meters. We successfully banned it. So I was part of that, did all that. We were also one of the first areas to ban 5G cell towers in Marin County.

I'm also on that side. This is the beauty of quantum energy is it allows us to work synergistically and still be able to benefit from the luxuries and technologies that are putting out EMFs. because quantum energy neutralizes the harmful effects that EMS have on the body. And we can show that over and over. Double-blind placebo-controlled studies, and it's 100% of the people. These aren't studies where we say, oh, 73% percent of people saw benefits. This is 100%. This isn't, you know, a small population or large, it's everyone if you're exposing MFs, It's literally a bubble wrap.

If you interact yourself or you expose yourself to the quantum energy, its a Bubble wrap of protection of external environmental stressors. So what we can test, like you said, calcium channels, we contest the HRV, your heart rate variability. We can text, um, dark field microscopy, right? So why blood analysis? We contest, the brain stuff. And it's showing that we still use this stuff and have it going on while not having these harmful issues. That's powerful, that's incredible. Well, yeah, because I think people who are sensitive to EMFs and it's a great place for them to test it is if you have sensitivities to the EMS, like connect yourself with some of these products and then bring them in there and you will see a difference.

And for people, who have like serious health issues with EMs, you know, Lila Quantum still makes EMB blocking products. So it a small part of it, but you can get a hat, jacket, T-shirts beanies all that but for I'd say the majority of the population just having that exposure the quantum energy is Sufficient enough and that's also yes. I mean I have my Apple watch I I literally have six computers here in front of me like, you know, I've had anxiety just Having six computer's never mind the image.

Yeah. It's a lot of you. No, there's all going on for work stuff, but it's it just Part of it is neutralizes the environment I'm in, which I am really appreciative of. And I also get that, like having AirPods on, I know definitely people question it. It's like, well, you're talking about EMFs and it's, but that's also what we're doing here is we are allowing you to use it? Yeah. So in your world, between the technology that you wear and the access to the quantum upgrade that in it, there's a harmonization effect that neutralizes the negative, the effect of the AirPods.

Yes. Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to very clearly articulate that. Is there a claim and I'm going to, I've been, you know, like we're now, we are going come up on time and want to make sure that we get to quantum upgrade and how people might use it and that kind of stuff. But is there claim that you refuse to me about quantum upgrades? Is that anything you, your like now I draw the line at that? Like do you think people yeah well overstate what it can do is? That's a great question. I mean, because for me, that's exactly everything I'm against.

The crazy claims, I like to talk about realistic things that we can show, quantify, and prove. And we have a telegram group where people are coming, like 8,000 people that are in here talking about their experiences and whatnot. We see these people. Honestly for, me and regardless of anything, healed and cured are two words to keep away because it's not going to cure anything for sure. And anyone who uses those words often, you just want to take a step back. And because those are really powerful words, You can suppress the heck out of symptoms, and you can really manage symptoms.

But the curing and healing in a way of like, okay, I'm not saying it's not impossible with things, but just with everything. Those are words that for me, my life is marketing and education. Yeah. Was there excessive? Well, I think that based on our conversation so far, what you said, and it's the healing and the curing is done by the body if it is going to happen. Absolutely. Right? And maybe the buddy will need help from a medication or whatever the case may be. What this does is it brings you back to a baseline where that possibility now exists again.

It doesn't guarantee it. No. You're right. This isn't, it's, you know, I think about it a little bit like bioregulators, right? The bi oregulator. Doesn't push you over the line. It doesn't. Push you under the. Line. it really, its job is really just to hold, to get you back to a state of balance so that your body can do what it does. And I I'm seeing that this is another leg on that stool because it. With the external outputs that are throwing a wrench into your bodies ability to do that. Yeah, it's basically it puts you in your natural state.

It allows you to be in a parasympathetic and like, you know, rest and digest. All of that is allowed so your body can do what it is meant to do without having, all these other things yelling at you invisibly. And again, I always like to use the analogy of like well it's the same thing as if i was to go to yosemite right now and spend a week away from emf and everything else like i come back feeling worlds better you know then the day to day stuff is because there's there really nothing out there that is.

environmentally stressing us. There's the EMS aren't there. Anything else that's that screaming at us and it's we're just putting ourselves out there while still being able to be in this area. Like I can be at my house, I could be having this podcast with you with Wi Fi, all the technologies and luxuries I have for you and I to build to have this interview right now. I Can have that while Still as if my body is in Yosemite right like it is not being stressed. Yeah, that's amazing. So I think the last podcast we did, we really talked about the Leela technology.

We talked the cubes, the pendants, capsules. Talked about jacket. The physical pieces that people could acquire that helps their bodies. Today we wanted to dive into the quantum upgrade a little bit more.

How Quantum Upgrade works and who it helps 52:18

Quantum upgrade is a service. It's a services that essentially plugs you into this quantum field through quantum entanglement. So it is a stretch for people. It is the subscription 100%. There's no gizmos, no gadgets, This is, and, you have this menu of different frequencies, if you will, that you can access, which you may need different things at different times because you yourself or your body are doing different. So is there something that people experience that surprises them the most at the beginning when they start using the upgrade?

Usually it's the calmness. I think for people who are so, um, just exposed to EMFs and without knowing it. And again, we have this telegram group where people use constantly or it so active. It's kind of overwhelming for me at least to go in there and see everything for the day. But calm this is what most people will say. Um, and I guess again because your heart rate's not up or you're not, you know, more parasympathetic, people get better sleep. In terms of there's so many other, again, just going off of the benefit in ways of quantum entangle, well, quantum upgrade with quantum, entanglement, as opposed to our physical products, is you can get the benefits without a physical product.

I'd say about 95% of benefits still. There's certain times where I would say that a fiscal product is going to behoove you more so than the actual subscription, right? And it is, we call it, it's a subscription. It's digital service, but we use that word, I think, to more easily digest it because everything we just talked about, none of that's Digital is analog. Its mechanical, Right? So we do call the digital services. I Think people can wrap their heads around it. Because you can go on and log in on your cell phone or your web on a computer, and you Can adjust all these different things that you want in your subscription?

But at the same time, a lot of people have this misconception that is some satellite Up around around and it's not it. It's really that's why right? So it' not digital really it mechanical and analog level where it just work gaining at your providing this access to the quantum field for you and that is again right so we can send frequencies whether it abundance gratitude prosperity there's about 45 different frequencies maybe more that we have And you can change them as much as you want. You can.

Change the intensities of the levels of them all and the amount of quantum energy you wanna be exposed to at the time you could go in and. The longer you have it we take the ceiling off of a strength because one thing people do is. You want to drink just like with the quantum product or the LiloQ products is you want To uh hydrate yourself more because again as we mentioned right it puts you in a state where your body can heal and help itself And what that tends to require also is just detoxing.

So not so much the Quantum energy again is Detoxing you but it's allowing your Body to finally do what it needs to do, which is detox. So we see that people tend to initially if they run it too hard or something. A funny story I have is, you know, everyone tends to know Ben Greenfield and he is one of the most extreme humans. And when we, when I set him up with this about three years ago, I was telling him, was like, we I know how you are and you like things strong. You want to feel it right away.

He was, like yeah, man, boost me the highest you can get. I want all of them. Give everything the high. And so I did. And on the second day, I had a text message from him at like three in the morning. He's like, hey, bro, can you please turn that off? It's too intense. Can you lower it down for me? Yeah. Yeah, he's, like I can't sleep, right? And it's okay. No worries. We don't suggest that, but sometimes just like me as a customer to other products, i want to be able to have that experiential awareness.

So I would be the person who would crank it up really high and then get almost a negative effect to realize that it's actually working even though I'm not feeling it. So we don't suggest and we create a limit initially while you have it on how high you can boost it, you boosted high enough to feel it but we're not letting you go up to the really higher levels. The longer you had it will remove those limits so you could go because your body gets used to it But again, there's so much that you can set your schedule for timing.

You can change that. There's a booster on it. Just go on there and change everything. It's the same benefit. Again, it's accessing your quantum field. We can put abundance, like I mentioned. frequencies. And it also doesn't force them on you because what it's doing is it is making it available to you. So if you need gratitude, it isn't forcing gratitude onto you, but it puts it in your space so your body can utilize it or you can use that frequency if necessary or if it needs it. But it won't like force it down your throat.

And I like what you said about the physical and the service, right? Like this digital service. I think that there will be instances, and maybe you can talk about this, where it makes sense to stack the fiscal products with the surface. And maybe, you could talk a couple of examples, or an example where that might be. Or is there an examples where you might better off starting with a capsule before you started with service? Yeah, that's probably the most common and most appreciated question because there's so many nuances with that.

And I'll start with this, actually, for someone who I've been in this for so long, heavily involved with these companies as well. If I had only one choice, I would choose quantum upgrade because of the uses that I could get in life that longer out of everything, would get more benefits with the quantum upgrades service. That being said, because there's certain like there you don't have to have anything with you. So I don' have t carry my cell phone with me for this service to work. I have have a Wi-Fi connection so I can go out again in the middle of Yosemite and still have this access to the quantum field again because it's analog and mechanical.

It's not something that relies on a satellite or electricity for us for it to um if i'm on a plane or something right like traveling or if I'm sleeping because I don't like to sleep with my capsules like then I have that right so there's many reasons where Yeah, yeah. It's like, so wherever I'm at at certain times, it's, like okay, I can use this or use that. There are definitely times where I would, for example, also, because we have the HEAL360 frequency with quantum upgrade, which also then kind of takes away the need for the Heal360 capsule that you would wear, just as an example.

So at that point, In the long run, if you know, we have all these really cool, like I was going to show you, but like everyone's watching, right? Yeah. Right. So these frequency cards, you they range from 75 to I think $145, some of them. And instead of paying that one time fee, You can have quantum upgrade that also is the same. so you can go through and it's like, I have every, every frequency card on file, like everyone will like if you get it and you'd get the frequency bundles, then you have I can go from the the all those different types of like I have for sleep and calm at night and the morning and changes I brain support going on all these different things.

You can change it as if I haven't endless amount of those frequency cards physically, I don't need them physically anymore. Yeah. So that's one of the really big benefits. And there are times though where, yeah, so I would say specifically the things that are advantageous for Lila Quantum products like would be the block. Because the Block, in a way, with quantum upgrade, think of it almost as if you can put yourself into a block, right? Because you're having this field of everything. I tried. You're charging yourself.

Recently, I was really sick. Right? So you could do that. Yeah. And that's when like the quantum upgrade is because you can change the frequencies, you change, the intensities to match the blocks. You can do all of that with it when you have it on yourself. But so the, there are certain times it doesn't work because with quantum, upgrade you, have certain service options. So you could do it yourself, so just your, your person, not the person next to you won't be affected by it or anything, just you because it's an individual identifier.

You can have it on your pets. We do horses, cats, dogs, anything like that. You could have on business and you can add on property. So the entire property is protected by this. And you could do it that way. Can also do your vehicle, which we have really cool studies showing what quantum upgrade does with Teslas and other cars. Even there are which technically I don't think are supposed to talk about in terms of names, but there our cars, their EV cars that produce more EMFs and Tesla. We have studies showing those.

We took the strongest electrical EMF producing vehicle manufactured at all, and we did studies with those, so you can see that it neutralizes the EMTs for everyone in the car. Now, where the block comes in is if you want to structure your water. If you want to enhance jewelry by charging your jewelry or charging, your phone. I tend to like one, one thing for me, and we talked about this last time was like the food allergies. So I wouldn't be able to neutralize certain like that, that food allergy responses that I get, like with crab, honey and avocado, I couldn't get that with just quantum upgrade.

It requires me to physically take that food and put it under a block for about five or six minutes to neutralize the disruptive waveform patterns that we get from the food that causes the allergies for me. So that's where it's really important. And on another end, though, I would say it is really cool with the blocks. I don't go too far off. This is just really cool. The quantum entanglement is like Natalie. If you didn't have any, if you don' have Leela or quantum products at all with you, you could send me a photo of you or I could take a screenshot right now and have your photo.

And I can take that photo and put it inside my block. We can show this and we have them the studies that it is the same as if you had a block with you in your place Crazy like yeah, you know that was where we started realizing quantum entanglement is like because I can take a picture of someone So that's what we would do after we do physical blocks next to someone now We don't have to have a physical block We could take the block the Block could be in Washington State and that person could in Germany and as long as that picture There's a pitcher of that in the block that's in Washington state, the person that is in Germany, we can do the double blind placebo controlled studies that we've done with them and it'll show us if the blocks was the same thing there.

And that was what quantum upgrade is doing for people as well. So it's very similar technology. We kind of ran into that like just out of testing and experimenting crazy things. That's fascinating. And that's really interesting, right? I mean, I was, um, it was really sick last month, and I had a call with my membership community. One of the members said, you know what, now, here's what we're going to do. All of us who have blocks, we are putting your picture in our blocks. Which I am very grateful for.

I would say Some aspects of my recovery have been a bit surprising. Like I've turned the corners pretty fast, still have a ways to go, but I don't know how much that had to do with it, and I remember, I think you and spoke and you talked me through some of the different quantum upgrade options. Yeah, some the frequency suggestions and stuff. Here's a place that people will often see this is in HRV, right? This is that one of those metrics. And really, and I think HRV is a magic one for this, because it really is about the balance in your system.

Right? If you have a if your HR V numbers are good, this is About balance, the balanced between your sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system, we know that when we're in balance again, were back to that world where the body is in a state where it can do what it needs to do better. And so, and I know that the, you know, we'll have a code for people at the end. They get 15 days to try this out. Right. Is that? Yeah. Which is extended. That's yeah. So it's 15. We give you the 15 day free trial, no credit card needed.

You don't have to put any information in for payment details, which is truly magic. Honestly, that can't lose on that. Yeah, yeah, how many subscriptions, because how may subscriptions do we all have of, of trials that we signed up for and then forgot? Well, that's always the problem. And I think I understand that as a customer standpoint where it's like, hey, I don't want to have to remember two days if I didn't wanna use it, and I wanna remember to cancel it. So we have it set up where you don' have any of that information in there.

You were listening the credit card information might be written like it might Be shown as blocks to fill it in but skip it like you don't have to because there are people who just want to sign up and they pay for it right away, but you Don't, have, to do that to skip the any credit,

Trial details, results, and closing remarks 1:05:28

card details and our typical free trial of seven days and then yeah nat with nat 15 It's a 15-day yeah free, trial for that so but okay but is seven days enough do you think do most people feel i would say a day is honestly yeah yeah we do 15 because that's what makes it more attractive and and also just in case people have um i'd say more healing that is needed um any type of like uh support and everything like they may need more than a Day but i was i Would be really confident that i'm saying the first day you'll notice Exactly.

The HRV will be increased, your ATV production, white blood cell will increase. All these things that we have studies, which all this is on the research tab on quantumupgrade.io and then lelacue.com. You can go on there and see all the results we talked about, but all that stuff is going to happen instantly. It's all a trickle down effect. If you have a higher HRV, then your body is also working more effectively. So either small things you might notice, you'll sleep better, very likely. We can show, I think it's like a 7% increase in REM sleep from using quantum upgrade as well on double blind placebo controlled.

You might feel a little tired or you might get a headache and that just obviously means that the intensity is too much and just lower it. Drink more water for sure because you will be dehydrated. You know when this just came out, it was before it came five years ago, we were testing all these things and I was one of the testers and they were at the time, because a lot of this is how much can your central nervous system handle and everyone's a little different. So we are trying to figure out what was a good baseline to start people at.

And we're doing these studies where they test and their experiments where I remember very clearly, I walk, they're just like, Hey, at some point in the next two days, We're going to boost you and we'll go at a really high level. Um, you know, yada yadda. I just remember, the very exact moment is I was walking on the beach in the panhandle of Florida and out of nowhere, I felt like I'd eaten a weed brownie. I don't do that really eat the edibles and I just remember I was like really like off and it was weird because it's dizzy almost like vertigo eyes and then I remember reaching out to like Philip because I've kind of caught I'm like wait I eat someone like ninja dose me or something with the edible and because there was such an odd out of their instant failing and Um, after reaching out to Philip, he's like, Oh, let me check with the, like he said, yeah, they hit you.

They got you, it was too high of a level. We realized that, you know, that's why we were testing it as ourselves. Um they're like yeah. Zapped you basically at this time of day. And, um, It was right then I was there and I'm like Yeah, okay. Well, That's too much for my central nervous. Yeah. No kidding. This was, this was pre pre-release of quantum upgrade. We were still testing everything, but we were trying to figure out what were good numbers for the central nervous system to handle. And that was too much for mine, um, People report that there's kind of like a ripple effect on their families or people around them.

How do you explain that? Because you were talking about, this is really about you, but you can definitely apply quantum upgrade to your home, to workplace, your car. So there is a bit of a bubble effect that happens really in anybody in that container, right? I would definitely say if you have it for the home. Is it as much as for you or is it less? the protection of the EMFs and the neutralization and all that are gonna be the same, especially like, so I have it, I'm on almost eight acres here of, you know, as country as you can get basically in Sonoma County, California.

And if someone comes onto our property, like they are now being exposed to that. Because we go off of Google Maps, So it's not just your residential like material home, it is the entire property that you're your backyard, front yard, everything. uh animals everything happen um to to get the benefits of that now i would say though because again i mentioned all the fields we had before car pets all that i wouldn't say that the the field for you which is this for me individually is going to be felt the strongest because it's more intense and focused on you so when it comes to intensity does not alter the strength of like the EMF neutralization or any of that, as well as the frequencies that are available.

But I would say like, the intensity that you're going to feel is much stronger on the you. So when you have people come to your house, they will always feel it like they'll family members all that. They're definitely and also like if you go again back down to a quantum field, like Natalie, if your walking around and you are in a good mood, the people in your bubble, your aura, they're gonna be like, hey, there's something to that person right now, right? And if you are in a really angry mood, you're putting that off too.

So it's just starting with ourselves and letting it expand just in general. It has nothing to do with actual our products, but it just like if are at a better place, in better mindset, everything, the the around you, are also gonna affected positively Or negatively, if you're in a negative set. Absolutely. You feel it, right? I talk about it as human Wi-Fi, they'd say it's how you walk into a room. Yeah. And read the energy in the room, you can pick up the Energy from a person. Todd, another fascinating conversation.

Thank you for winding your way through the forest of quantum of the quantum world with me. I understand more than I did before. So I really appreciate it. Let's tell people where they can learn more and how they access that free 15-day trial if that's something that resonates for them. If they want to give it a try for themselves. Our social media Instagram is quantumupgrade.io, which is always important. And I run the social, and I am huge into education. Like I said, if any of this is confusing or you want more clarity, I'm more than willing to spend as much time as needed to talk with anyone and clarify this.

Our customer support through email, they answer usually within an hour, 24 hours a day. They're really awesome. And then, of course, you can access the free trial at www.quantumupgrade.io. And code NAT15. And then when you go in there, type in NAT, yeah, N-A-T-1-5. We'll give you the 15-day free trial. If you have any questions, any hiccups, I'm very fast on social media. I run the Lila Quantum and the Quantum Upgrade on there. You have questions regardless. Super passionate about creating clarification with this stuff, so we're there for it.

I can vote for that. I could get in touch with Todd at the drop of a pin. So it's, it is very available. Todd, thank you so much. This has been fantastic. Thank you. Yeah. It's very useful. Huh? Yes. Thanks.