Propel Gut Healing With Your Guide To PEMF Therapy

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Thank you for having me on, being part of your tribe, and sharing. I know we are going to have some fun.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, absolutely. I know that you did not just happen to become the foremost expert on PMF therapy. Tell us a little bit about your story before we get into the nitty gritty of how this can help people and what the different applications are.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Well, I do not really have a personal story that a lot of people have that shifted their path. My shift path shift was sort of a gentler, more gentle process, but it was more alarming in the sense that, what any other impetus, to kick in the buttocks. In Latin, we call that a vis a tergo, or kick in the buttocks. The kick in the buttocks was that I was part of a medical group, and we shared patients, went to the hospital, and rounded on our patients on a regular basis in a very short period of time. I had two patients, one who died and one who almost died, and one who was very sick. they died. One thing in common, or almost died of one thing in common. Gastric bleeding.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Oof! 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

What was the cause of the gastric bleeding? Our dear friend, Ibuprofen. Back in those days, back in the eighties, mid-eighties, and nineties, that’s what we did. That’s what we used. We have these narcotics; we use the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and Tylenol, or we send you to the surgeons, and they do their thing. With that experience, I said, This is insane medicine. On Saturday, its doing the same thing over and over again, hoping you do not get a bad result. But you keep doing it, and you cross your fingers that you do not get a bad result. Well, in this case, it turns out that three people almost simultaneously had a bad result from something that should not cause a problem. It’s supposed to solve a problem. That is why I say this is bad medicine. I said I had to go outside the House of Medicine to learn something new and different to be able to deal with the pain problem.

From there, I basically studied acupuncture. Have you finished acupuncture? I was trying to practice acupuncture around 1990ish, and I could not because people would not let me near them with needles. Stay away. Stay away from those needles because they did not understand acupuncture at the time. Madonna did not have acupuncture in her movie scene. We did not know about it yet. I said, Well, how do I do acupuncture without using needles? I discovered magnets. In the Orient and the Eastern World part of the world, which is home to acupuncture anyway, they started using magnets on acupuncture points. You can stimulate acupuncture points in a lot of ways. Needles is only one. So magnets, I discovered, started using the magnets, and I said it was doing. I was seeing other things happen that I did not see with needles.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Like what?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Tissues would heal, inflammation would go down, and pain would go away in that spot. Acupuncture works largely indirectly in the body. It is not as direct. It does not promote tissue healing. Basically, I started doing magnets more and more, and I started getting tissue healing more and more. In terms of gut healing, this is relevant. One day I was going to redo my back patio, had a book, and was going to spend three or four hours reading, and I got an itch on my leg. I looked down my leg, and I had a quarter-sized lesion on my lower leg. Clearly, having that kind of experience as a doctor, I have seen so many of these. It was a spider bite. I barely felt the bite, but it was already swelling, itching, sore, red, and so on. This is not a good sign. This is going to go bad quickly. So I said, What do I do? I have this reading to do, and I have this lesion. Do I call a doctor? I could have looked in the mirror, and I know the doctor, but I cannot. I put a magnet on it. Nice little thick block magnet, which was a circular magnet. Was a thick magnet. I taped it to my leg and sat down for the next 3 hours. Finally, I did not feel anything from it and looked down on it. How long does it take a spider bite to go away?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Usually days, if not weeks.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Eight weeks?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Gone.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Wow.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Wow. This is interesting. This is worth noting.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Mm hmm.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Magnet bang does that. Magnets, then I started moving away from acupuncture purposes for the magnetics and into the tissue healing aspect of it. Eventually, I gave up using acupuncture at all because I could do a lot more for people with the magnets. I could do the acupuncture as well, and I could do a lot more with the magnets. The tissue healing became the most important part of this. Unlike in acupuncture, I had a little girl, a three-year-old girl, cut off the end of the thumb in a doorjamb. The surgeons were going to do what surgeons do with it, which is clean it up, sew it, and put a graft on it, which would leave that little three-year-old with an abnormal thumb for the rest of her life.

I said, Well, I heard the stories from England and from Europe, where they were up to about age 11. If you go beyond that first joint, you can get regeneration. I have never seen it, but I said, What’s the harm? Just put the tissue back on so it backs off. It serves as a bandage; it covers the wound, and it’s natural as well as biological. It’s not synthetic. It’s not going to cause any risk or harm. If it does fall off, you are back to where you were anyway, right? She was using a small magnetic field device, which we can talk about for about an hour and a half to 3 hours a day. 12 weeks later, she regrowing her nails.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

What?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Four weeks. She regrew her thumb.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

What?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

What? That’s what I said. As I said, that is also notable.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, I would call that notable.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Now. Now you have my attention.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, no kidding.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I have never seen that happen in my life as a doctor, as a person, or as a human. I do not know anybody else who’s seen that happen either. What about that kind of spontaneous healing or total regeneration of the extremity that happens in salamanders, I know. But this was not a salamander.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

You mentioned this PEMF device. What is this PEMF technology, and what are the basic physiological actions of it? How does it work?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

All right. Backing up all the way, if you will. We tend to think of ourselves as being tissue or skin. That is what we are as tissue. There is all kinds of stuff inside there that is doing whatever it does. We do not have any control over it; it just does what it does. But we are just tissue. What makes tissue? Molecules. Molecules make tissue. What are molecules? How do molecules work? Molecules are basically made of physics material, which is at a level of understanding that is subatomic, atomic, quantum, or whatever. But way below our level of visualization. Physics controls chemistry, and chemistry controls tissue—any tissue in the body—guts, brains, skeletons, skin, you name it. What controls physics? Let us say quantum physics for argument’s sake, or non-argument sake. Or what controls quantum physics?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Energy.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Spirit.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Mm.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

That has now passed into the spiritual realms. But all of that, ultimately, is a cascading effect of electromagnetics. The second force in the universe is the electromagnetic second force. It is the biggest force in the universe—not necessarily the strongest, but the biggest. It is even bigger than gravity, but not stronger than gravity, depending on the circumstances. But it is the biggest force. It is a second force in the universe. We are electromagnetic beings. Down to the most granular level you can get to. That means you are subject to the laws of physics that relate to electromagnetism. Where there is electro, there is magnetic, and where there is magnetic, there is electro. You cannot separate them and then go.

So as a result, what we are doing is using the principles of physics, maybe quantum physics as well, to drive everything below that. We drive the chip, we drive the molecules, then we drive the tissue, and that tissue will heal itself. Given the right stimulus. Electromagnetic fields are basically unseen. You cannot see it; you cannot see the wind; you can only see the wind through its effects. You do not know it is there until you at least start moving.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. Good point.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Other branches start moving, or you start to feel cold in your skin, or whatever those manifestations of it are. But you cannot see the wind; you cannot see electromagnetic waves. They are unseen, but we know them by their actions. When you pass that magnetic field through a body, through anything organic, essentially, it passes right on through. It completely ignores that there is a body there. Only if there is some metal in that body, then maybe the magnetic field will have to shunt itself a little bit by virtue of that because it cannot pass through metal as easily. The human body, without any metal in it, is basically completely transparent to magnetic fields. As that magnetic field passes through that tissue, through that body that appears dense, it passes completely through the body, and it keeps on going as if it wasn’t even there. But as it’s passing through, according to a law of physics called Faraday’s law, as it’s passing through a body and it begins to create charge, it creates energy.

A great discoverer, a physicist, an entrepreneur—whatever he was, his name is Faraday—discovered that if you take a copper circuit, a copper wire circuit, and you put a light bulb in it, there is no energy or power coming to it. It’s just sitting there waiting, and you take a magnetic field and pass the magnetic field past that circuit to pass the wire—not the light bulb, but the wire. All of a sudden, the light bulb lit up. That is Faraday’s law of induction. That discovery basically educated us or informed us that magnetic fields pass through a body that is able to be affected by charge movement from ions moving. Then you create charge and energy. That is what we are doing with magnetic fields in the body. 

We are doing Faraday’s law for passing magnetic fields; we are passing all these charge carriers, and every single molecule in the body has a charge attached to it. They are all talking to each other. So what happens is that when we are sick or when we have an injury, we temporarily disrupt the natural functions of that tissue or that body. Now that the body has to react to the injury and produce resources, throw resources at the injury to be able to bring it back into some level of balance, preferably in its original state. You may not be able to go back to the original state, but you will create a new level of balance. So magnetic fields are basically stimulating the body. Fix yourself. I have given you energy. Go fix yourself. Magnetic field therapy does not heal you; the body heals you. Yes.  All you are doing is pushing the body to do what it’s supposed to do.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

I really appreciate you taking the time to unpack this because it can seem hard to grasp and very abstract. But there is such a real physiological impact on the body when you actually provide it—the energy that is missing to do what it knows what to do. I think there is something about that for those of us who have been through serious chronic illness, where it’s almost salt on the wound to consider how smart your body really is, yet somehow, for whatever reason, whatever your root causes are, it is not in any position to do what it knows how to do to maintain itself, especially with gut conditions, because the gut is so resilient. We always hear these statistics, and they are almost irritating when you are unwell to hear, and, oh yes, the gut lining replenishes itself every few days. Really? Well, how come I am down to three years? I would love for you to share and really highlight what this phenomenal form of therapy, PMF work, can actually do to support gut healing and even accelerate it.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

We all know the different tissues of the body have different healing rates, right? Corneas heal in 24 hours. Bones can take years. Nerve cells, or nerves, conduct sensation back and forth in the body. They take months or two years to heal. But the gut is connective tissue. It’s all connective tissue. There is no bone, right? There are nerves, but it is all soft connective tissue. It is all very mobile. That’s vascular. It has a tremendous amount of innovation. We know that the gut is the second brain. Actually, there are more neurons in the gut than there are in the brain. The gut just thinks differently than the brain. It has a different set of rules that it lives by. But because it is so flexible and connective, PEMF therapy goes through it like lightning through a cloud in the connective tissues, the soft tissues of the body.

If you are conducting a charge, never mind going down a nerve. If you do this with your arm, you just cause that action to cause a nerve, which is basically a conductive wave, a wave of energy, to move down that extremity, that arm, at a rate of 30 meters per second. That’s instantaneous. Yes, right. Effectively.  When you pass a magnetic field through the body and you are producing more energy, you also have to tell the cells, Wake up, wake up, wake up.  The cells begin to wake up. Now dead is dead. What do they say? I have a disclaimer. I do not raise the dead. I do work with the living dead, but not the dead. Dead. For that, you have to go to God. You are working with me because God sent you here. Because I work with the living dead.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Well, that was certainly right about where I was when we had our consults. I do not remember very much about it because those were my really bad Lyme years. But I know that I had just gotten a diagnosis about Hashimoto’s, and the doctors I was working with at the time were talking to me in terms of a life of pain and how we could maybe see some movement in that, but we would measure progress by years, not months, and that I would have to play a perfect game and have a zero-stress life, which was fundamentally impossible for me at the time. I remember sitting in my car on the phone with you, writing down notes on a post-it that was trying to take notes about what you were telling me to do. I was just leaking tears because your presence and your compassion were so palpable. Also, did the strategies you were talking about finally sound doable?

Luckily, I will just make the story short. I rented the device. He told me to write. We got such good results that Michael ended up buying one, which for us was the biggest purchase we had ever made for my health before. I used it daily, and it was a phenomenal expediting of some of the work I had to do anyway with some supplements and things. But I know that I could not have gotten there on the same trajectory without that.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

That is part of what magnetic fields do, because they wake everything up. I have written two books recently. One is called Power Tools for Health, and that is my first book that has all the references. It has 500 references and teaches us the science of how magnetic fields work in the body. In that book, I outline 25 mechanisms of action of the magnetic field in the body. for example, improving circulation, decreasing pain fibers from firing, stem cells, and tissue regeneration. We talked about the child with the thumb, simulates regeneration, decreases inflammation, and heals anything that is wrong with the body. Inflammation is at the root of everything. People often say, Well, we want to have zero inflammation. We want zero aging. I said, Life is aging, right? Death is aging; aging is death by a thousand cuts; each cut causes damage; each cut causes inflammation. We rely on our bodies to eliminate that inflammation and the damage caused by it. But the body needs help. How efficient is the body?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Great question. As efficient, I guess, as you support it to be.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

That is important, but not enough. It is not sufficient. It is necessary, but not sufficient. We are only about 25% efficient.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Really?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Our cars are about 20% efficient. What is efficiency in that sense? Efficiency means taking energy and putting it to work. The food you eat produces energy, and that energy then has to be used by the body to produce work. In this case, we are talking about tissue repair by reducing inflammation or improving circulation, helping the neurons work better, and decreasing swelling in the tissues. All of that stuff is work. But we need to convert the energy that we are taking in, in terms of food especially, and converting it to work. We are very, very inefficient. That is why, when you do magnetic field therapy, even if you are optimized, you are not.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Interesting.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

You need more help. If you have a wound, and the experiments have been done with that, with rats in particular, they cut out a section of the back of a rat, and then they had a group of rats that were left to heal. They had the usual care for wound care and so on, and they had a group of rats that had the usual wound care work, and they had magnetic field therapy. The rats with the magnetic field therapy healed in half the time.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

I guess, I should not be surprised. That sounds pretty much par for the course with this.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

They were deficient. They just need more help, and you cannot rely on chance alone. When you have surgery, when you try to heal a gut, well, you have surgery. You have your appendectomy, you have your cyst removed, or you have your diverticulosis, kind of cut out diverticulitis, cut out whatever. All that has to heal. What does the surgeon do to help you heal? Really? You leave the office, and the surgeon crosses his fingers and says, Okay, go heal yourself. Surgery does nothing to help you heal. Go heal yourself. So they have all this experience with people healing themselves. But there are people at all kinds of stages of ability who can heal that.

If you are doing therapy, you are removing chance. Talk about the gut. I had to have an elective procedure for my appendix. I had a colonoscopy, and they did the colonoscopy. They had a little tumor sitting at the opening of the appendix; they did not biopsy it at the time. I’ve got to take your appendix out. We know what this is. I had elected for an elective appendectomy, so I had three stab wounds with laparoscopically. Not the big open cut. Okay, so I had three stab wounds. I put a magnet on the stab wounds. The third one is the control. This happened at midday on Friday. I was back to work Monday morning. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

What? That’s phenomenal.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Now, was I healed? No. But I had no swelling. I had no pain. The wound is clean, right? Yes. My muscle was cut a bit, so I had to be careful a little bit with my movement and so on. But I was able to go back to work on Monday. Now normally, the research is going to tell you that it is going to take you 2 to 6 weeks to heal, right? Now, we have removed the chance.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Wow. When you think about chronic gut conditions, and of course there is a wide range of issues that we are addressing on the summit—from leaky gut on the way to food sensitivities, immune dysregulation, and autoimmune conditions like colitis and Crohn’s—there is a wide range, right? I would be hard pressed to think of one that would not be supported by PEMF. But are there any contraindications or certain gut conditions that you think would be particularly well suited to PEMF therapy?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Commonality with virtually all gut conditions: the commonality is inflammation.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Mm hmm.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

There are all kinds of other aspects to it. You could have dead tissue. You could have nueroma, or tissue that is bound together, causing chronic pain. You could have a lack of circulation in the tissue; one of the most common causes of a lack of circulation in the tissue is inflammation. You have inflammation. You have a decreased blood supply. You have what we call hypoperfusion, and we have hypoperfusion to decrease the swelling. All of a sudden, the blood supply comes in, and then you need the blood supply to bring all the nutrients in. You need the blood supply to bring in all the immune factors that will help heal those tissues. If you have surgery, you are going to have swelling. You have to have swelling because that is the first phase of inflammation needed to heal that wound. But that the wound is on its own. Cross your fingers, and it is going to heal right. Magnetic field therapies provide the energy that the body needs to give it the right impetus and guards around it to heal properly.

It does not matter what the tissue is; inflammation is the root cause. Then there’s that inflammation, which causes a lack of blood supply and ischemia, right? That can be local or huge. You have a blockage in a blood vessel that basically destroys the entire gut. Ulcerative colitis, Crohn’s disease, irritable bowel syndrome, diverticulosis—all of these are basic connective tissue issues. Then, when you provide the right nutrients and the right energetic support to the tissue, it now has the capability of healing itself. I had a friend in Virginia Beach who was a plastic surgeon. Who discovered over the years that people complained about the surgical results. But what he discovered is that the most common cause of their poor results, other than their expectations in plastic surgery, have that expectations, right? Other than expectations, nutrition. He took all of his patients from that point forward; they had to be on a diet for three months. Here is your diet: You’ve got to be on this diet for three months before I do surgery. You have to prove to me that you are on it and that you are using it, and we are going to be checking in on a regular basis, sort of like weight loss programs. What I found is that the complications caused the tissue. People went into surgery healthier. When you had the trauma of your surgery, your body already had the resources available to defend itself and marshal its own healing. Now, what he did not do was magnetic field therapy. We have actually seen this with plastic surgery: the wounds heal much faster. We are talking about wounds again. Whatever you have going on in your body that is causing inflammation, breakdown, pain, discomfort, poor nutrition, and a microbiome that is not working, all of these are often related to the lack of energy in that system to do the repair work that it needs to do. If you can heal in half the time that you have, you have half the time available to have it get into trouble. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

What I think is really interesting about this is that when you look at the landscape of protocols and tools available today for people with chronic conditions, so many of them either ignore or ignore how to deal with a body that is underenergized, inefficient, and in a state of poor circulation, poor cellular turnover, and high inflammation. They ignore that, and they go in and they try to do, I say, hunt and kill protocols, but harsh fungicides and I.V. therapies that kind of take the body and go, Wait a minute, where is this coming from? It is a left turn out of nowhere. The body’s totally unprepared for some of these, what we call healing tools. Or at the other end of the spectrum, they are spending so much time in the protocol design just fighting inflammation that effectively all you are doing is treading water, and neither end of the spectrum is really creating lasting results or really reaching at the root cause, the originating factors of the chronic gut conditions, because there is simply no capacity in the body to do that at either end of the spectrum. What are your thoughts about that? Because it feels good to me, and this is why we incorporate PEMF as much as possible into our practice and other regenerative therapies. Depending on what the issues are, if you do not account for this lack of energy and this really intense inflammation, you are lost before you even get out of the starting gate.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It takes a village, right there. Most problems that we deal with, particularly chronic problems, often start with one problem. They can start again by having an appendectomy. From there, your diet goes off; you are eating the wrong foods. You do not heal. One problem begins to cascade into the next problem, which cascades into the next problem. Then, if you add conventional medical therapies on top of all of this, you are adding another layer of condition. I learned that in homeopathy. Everything is layered. Your life is layered. You are an onion, right? Your appendectomy or your recent I need an appendectomy is one more layer on top of a whole bunch of previous layers.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Great point.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

But you have to kind of peel away a whole onion. You can start where you are, and as you get better, you discover there is another problem. I have to peel off that layer. You discover there is another problem where all these problems can be layered and hidden from being obvious. Nutrition is absent critical. Rest is absent critical to having a good attitude. Hope is critical to being psychologically balanced. You carry a lot of anger in you. Your body is diverting all kinds of energy to being angry away from healing. You really do need to take care of everything. Magnetic field therapy does not solve all problems. It is one more tool, and it is a tool that will be an accelerant to accelerate everything else you are doing.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, that is  a really important context, I think. But then it frees you from having to spend your supplement budget on anti-inflammatories that probably were not even reaching the right tissues anyway.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Yes, they are only one piece of that little puzzle. Let us take it. Let us take, curcumin as an anti-inflammatory. How good is curcumin as an anti-inflammatory?

Sinclai Kennally, CNHP, CNC

You tell me.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

What do you say?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Not very good. I do not use it.  

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

So why?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

I do not see the clinical results?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

The reason is that it is only about 25% bioavailable.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Interesting.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Curcumin is very poorly absorbed. Now we use curcumin with biopiracy, and there are other kinds of cognitive compounds that are molecularly fixed to be more bioabsorbable. But you still do not get the value from it that you need because it’s just not bioabsorbable enough now as it is. It may not be sufficient. Is it necessary? You can argue that point as well. There are probably other anti-inflammatories that could work as well or better than curcumin, but that is the one we know. Everyone’s on target. But magnetic field therapy does one thing better. Does curcumin heal you and accelerate the healing process? No. You’ve got one tool that can accelerate the healing process, help the tissues get nourished better, and know the tissues well. Use the nutrition you give it better. If you are using other therapies alongside it, chemotherapy can help with the microbiome. I do not know if you knew that, but if you stimulate your brain with magnetic field therapy, why would you do that? Stress. What does stress do to the microbiome or the stress do to the body in general? The gut is a huge factor. If you decrease the stress level in the brain, the brain perceives the microbiome, the nervous system of the gut settles down, the microbiome gets rebalanced, and you get healing actions in the tissues. What you are doing to the brain also cascades down into the gut. If you just treat the brain, it’s going to help your gut in other ways as well. But if you combine the two, healing the gut directly and healing the brain, then you have to watch out for putting on capes. Everybody wishes they had that problem. The urge to put on a cape

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. So true. I have to reveal to the audience that I told you about how much you may have helped me back in the day. He told me, guys, that success is something he charges more for. Just watch out.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Yes, but I do not charge you too much.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Thank you. I do want to give our audience a little bit of a point of clarification here because they have heard at this point that EMFs can be bad for your health and that they can slow down tissue regeneration. So I really want to draw an important distinction between EMF exposure, like wireless radiation, and PEMF. If you could describe the difference between those two, that would be fantastic.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

All right. Thank you. That is the elephant in the room. If I do these interviews, that is the first thing I do. I want to just get that out of the way. All of those therapies hold that risk, and those right here are anxiety-related therapies. Well, EMFs—I call them environmental magnetic fields. It is electromagnetic fields, but they are environmental; they are designed for other purposes. They are designed for communication or the delivery of information. They are not designed for healing. The body just simply gets it away. Now, these fields are designed to broadcast into space. Microwave towers broadcast into space. They have not said that the broadcast specifically goes from one point to another. They are broadcast widely, and I call that an open loop. Now, in addition to that, there are frequencies. They do have frequencies. Those frequencies, particularly with cell phones and cell towers, are microwave frequencies. How do we use microwaves in our lives? Cooking? Why do they cook? Why do microwaves cook, as the wavelengths are extremely short and therefore get absorbed? When you get absorbed, you create heat. We use microwaves in medicine to actually burn tissue. We actually use it for that purpose. We know what we are doing with it for that purpose, but cell phones are broadcast for communication purposes. If a body happens to get in the way, well, it is going to be affected by those microwaves being absorbed by the body. In the analogy I use frequently, you have a cell phone in your head and you are talking to somebody. Let us say you try for ten or 15 minutes to talk to somebody on the phone, pull it away from your head, and see what color your ear is. Bright red frequently.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. That side of your face is heated and irritated.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Exactly. On the other side of your head, you did not get the microwave exposure is fine. What were you doing with the cell phone in your ear? You were cooking your ear and the brain just below that. That is why people who have their cell phones in their faces for long periods of time. Throughout the day, you will often end up having an acoustic neuroma on that side of the head..

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Right.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

That is the difference: they absorb the very short wavelengths and the high frequencies, and their broadcast. PEMFs have a completely different design component or aspect to it. These are what we call open loops. As I said, the wire that conducts the magnetic field that produces PEMF that we use medically is so that my thumb is the wire and my fingers are the magnetic field. Remember, every time you have current flowing, you have a magnetic hill, and it is always perpendicular to the flow of that current. that magnetic field as the current pulses. Each pulse of the current goes like this: The magnetic field goes out and comes back, and out and back. It does not get broadcast forever; it has no wavelength. It has a pulsation, but it has no wavelength because it’s not a wave.

The whole concept of frequencies is designed around primary AC currents, which basically go down the wire forever and ever. They are wavelengths, for sure. Cell phones are again completely open, as opposed to a power line. Power line frequencies are not a problem. I am great. People have said, What, he is crazy? How does he know he’s wrong? Everybody else is telling us that power lines are bad for you. It does not start from the moment it is generated. The next place it goes, it gets contaminated. It is saying that it hurts, right? The generator goes to the next place. When it goes into that place, it not only goes in but also comes back out again. When it goes in, it is contaminated by all the electronics that are in the place that that current went into. Now you’ve got all kinds of pollution.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Right. All that dirty electricity.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Now becomes dirty electricity. In that sense, it is bad for you, but still, it is not the same as cooking. Not as bad as cooking. With magnetic field therapy, what you are doing is strengthening the body. You are producing so many positive things in your body about yourself. Don’t worry about it. I can deal with this now. If you are standing right in front of a microwave tower, you have a beam right at your head. We have a problem. Most of us do not get those kinds of exposures. For the cell phone and the Wi-Fi, if you have a Wi-Fi router in your room where you are working and you are there 8 hours a day, well, that wifi is in fact bombarding you 8 hours a day by signals broadcast into the environment, not just shot directly at one spot. PEMFs are completely safe, and they help to support the body’s own healing, which therefore helps the body defend itself against the effects of that radiation. You cannot get rid of it. We can get rid of that radiation by putting ourselves in a room in a suit, and then you cannot have your phone inside that suit. Well, you can if you want. But it will not work.

That is the difference. The two are completely different technologies. They work in very different ways. PEMFs are designed for healing; they are designed for biologic actions; therefore, they are not generally harmful. Now, can they be harmful? The most common way to be harmful is to have implanted electronics. If you have implanted electronics, that is MR-compatible; in other words, it is MRI-compatible now because you have to have been told that you could do it. MRI, and now you are safe with most PEMF therapies. If it says it is in good condition, sometimes you have to be careful. You cannot use a magnetic field therapy machine; it has to be turned off while you are doing the MRI and then turned back on again. Requires a technician to do that. But if it does not need that, there are pacemakers that do, and they are not harmed by PEMF.

Now you can go to the MRI and do your MRI; you do not have to turn it on or off or whatever. That is the biggest reason that you have to be concerned. Other than that, the only concern is that people do too much too fast, right? You do not get off the couch and run a marathon tomorrow unless you ran one yesterday. You have to train. How well-trained you are depends on how much training you need for the next marathon or running the marathon. The body is like that. Magnetic fields basically require the body to work. The body has to react to that magnetic field. Here, you have the energy. Now go to work. If the body cannot do that work because it is overly irritated, overly inflamed, or undernourished and does not have an adequate blood supply, all of these factors will cause the body to say, I cannot do this. What you have to do then is go low and slow. On my website, drpawluk.com, I have a Low And Slow Protocol.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Perfect.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

In my other book, Supercharge Your Health, there is an appendix that gives you those protocols for going low and slow. You have to figure out what your body can handle at the time and how much it can be pushed to do the work you ultimately want to be able to do. You will get there over time. Your body teaches you that we cannot see you, your body, and say exactly, Here is the dose. This many minutes, this many times a day, this machine—that is all you need to do. People who tell you that all you need is 8 minutes a day or 8 minutes twice a day with any magnetic field therapy. Did your body tell you that? A good example is that they have devices that are 16 Gauss, which is not very high intensity for nonunion fractures, but they evaluated that. They did the research to determine how much they use those magnetic fields. They found out you needed to do nine hours a day—nine hours a day!

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

I am really glad to bring this up because there are some devices out there that we do not endorse and that we feel are overpriced and crazy. Yes. I have always been thrilled to see that you never got into business with those people.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I did that actually.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Oh, did you really?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I did. I actually started my career with magnetic fields and helped with post-magnetic fields with a device called the Cure-S.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Hmm.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Because that was what was available.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Great. 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

This is, after all, what is available. Let us use it. It works to a point, and you have to understand why and how it works to know where to place it in the pantheon of devices. Even at these very low intensities, machines work. What do they do, though, because they are so low-intensity? If you need 15 gauss at the tissue for inflammation management and you already have one gauss coming out of the machine, then you are spending $6,000 for one of those machines, you are not going to get much. But what is though that it stimulates acupuncture points and meridians, which is why people feel better. They also feel better for another reason. You spent $6,000. Now you are going to feel better.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

But yes, the effect is strong, for sure. But I just appreciate your discernment in this field and for only recommending devices that are actually of good value and are attuned to the needs that people require to progress. One of the things that I want to draw people’s attention to is how to find out more about your work and your books. Of course, you have mentioned them in passing, but let us give people a recap here. It’s drpawluk.com, right?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

That is the website: drpawluk.com. Welcome, and get ready to drown. There is a huge amount of information there. If you are hungry, you will find plenty of food, but for most people, that is probably too much. The easiest way to digest this information is with the Supercharge Your Health book. Supercharge your health with PEMF Therapy. That book is practical. It is a distillation of everything that I had in my Power Tools book, but the Power Tools book has over 500 references. If you want to geek out and if you want to really understand the why, how, and the research behind all this, you should read Power Tools.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Great.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Then I guarantee you are going to end up buying Supercharge Your Health because now you want to know how to do it right. Both of those books become very important. If you only have one, Supercharge Your Health is fine, but do not expect the science.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Got it. That is super helpful. Yes, well, and most people, when they are not well, are not thrilled to have to dig into the deep end of the science just to figure out what their next step is. I really appreciate you laying that out for folks.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Well, and on top of that, there is still confusion, as you still get all this confusion out there. I start reading, and you start doing your own due diligence; you start informing yourself. I strongly recommend that if you are going to spend $7,000 on a machine, you are making a pretty good-sized investment. Spend $29 and get Supercharge Your Health. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Once you do that, then we offer consultations. DrPawluk.com: I have a medical team, and we do free consultations. We do not charge for that. But what we want, and the reason I do that, is that as a family physician, as a holistic doctor, in the past, I would get people to buying stuff, and then I was on the Dr. Oz Show. We had a huge tsunami of orders come in for PEMF devices, and people were buying left, right, and center. They did not know what they were buying. But our return rates are high.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, right. 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Because they did not know what they were buying. A, they did not know what they were buying. B, they did not know how to use it, and they bought the wrong machine for their particular needs. If you say, Well, I’ll throw you $400 to $500, and you get yourself a FlexPulse or MicroPulse, then you have something to help your wrist, but it is not going to help you with your Lyme disease. People often buy based on money when they really should be buying it based on need and what it is meant to do to become an important part of that. If you are not willing to buy the machine, that is right for you. If you are only willing to spend $50, do not bother with a consultation. Buy, and then do whatever you are going to do. Yes, I learned a long, long time ago that there are people in the world who will not spend $0.50 to pay a toll to cross the bridge to get health care on the other side.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

That is true. Yes.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

You just relax and take care of me, or I am not going to take care of myself. You have to take care of yourself, and you have to get the right equipment. We welcome to work with you to inform you, get the right piece of equipment, and support you to make sure you learn how to use it properly. We would follow up with you to make sure things are going the way they should.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Well, luckily, that is not our audience; our audiences are crossing that bridge, and they are doing what it takes because they know how important it is to take control of your own health.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

You have to be PEMF again; it is one more tool—one more axe, ice pick, or shovel that you need in your tool chest.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Exactly. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with us today, Dr. Pawluk, and for helping to illuminate the field of PEMF therapy and what it can do for folks, especially for people who have been dealing with chronic gut conditions for quite some time. That is a particular love of mine because of my own personal story and the focus of our practice now. I just really appreciate you sharing your wisdom so generously today.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

My pleasure. I enjoyed it. It is great to have somebody who understands the technology, who has used it personally, and who has seen the benefits, and I am sure they will see the benefits as well with people that you consult with who do get equipment or do use the equipment properly.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. Some of them are actually using it, yes. Oh, yes. Because it is astonishing how fast it works. 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Then, when you go on vacation, you say, Why do I leave it at home?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. Oh, actually, Michael, on our longer trips, we will take it with us. If we are driving in the car, it goes. 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Well, even if you just used the control unit and a smaller applicator, you still have something. Yes. While you are traveling. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, exactly. Awesome. It was wonderful to see you. It’s. It’s an important full-circle moment for me, so it’s really, really sweet.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

My pleasure. It’s been a lot of fun chatting with you and seeing your wonderful smile.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Thank you so much. Keep up the good work, please. We need you.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Likewise. Spread the word. Thank you.