Full Transcript Introduction to the Resiliency Method and MVX+ 0:00 The overall index is called the metabolic vulnerability index, and that is a score 1 to 100. You want your score to be very low. 0:07 And that's how you can predict your five-year mortality. 0:10 If your his score is too high, you just bring it down. 0:12 Then you've just proven that you're going to live longer, that your healthier. 0:17 Welcome to the resiliency method, the truth about healing. 0:21 I'm Dr. 0:21 Erica and we are here to uncover the root causes keeping you stuck. 0:25 Together we'll restore your energy, your focus and your resiliency so you can finally heal, regenerate and feel truly alive again. 0:38 They drew everyone's blood and tracked who lived the longest. 0:42 Then they asked a different question. 0:43 What could we have measured to actually predict mortality? 0:48 Well, welcome to the Resiliency Method, the Truth About Healing podcast. 0:51 I'm Dr. 0:51 Erika, and today I am joined by Dr Darren Schmidt, chiropractor and founder of the Nutritional Healing Center of Ann Arbor, 0:57 Michigan. 0:58 We're talking about the MBX Plus blood test and what it reveals about health, aging, longevity, using key markers linked to long-term outcomes. 1:06 We're going to break down the six markers behind the MVX+, why it focuses on cellular health instead of symptoms, and why nutrient deficiencies like B1 1:16 are often missed. 1:17 We are also going touch on a 7-step blueprint for restoring health and how tracking these markers can show real progress over time. 1:24 If you think labs are only about diagnosing disease, this episode will change that. 1:28 The better question we're exploring today is what if the real issue isn't disease, but what your body is missing? 1:33 Because that's where the really healing starts. 1:36 And before we dive in, if you're enjoying the Resiliency Method podcast, be so grateful if would leave a quick five-star rating and review us on Apple 1:44 Podcasts or Spotify. 1:45 Thank you for your support. 1:46 Welcome back to the Resiliency Method, the Truth About Healing podcast. 1:50 I'm here today with Dr.
How the MVX+ test was developed 1:52 Darren Schmidt. 1:53 He is a doctor of chiropractic and the founder of the Nutritional Healing Center of Ann Arbor, where they use new and old clinical discoveries to solve 2:03 complex chronic illness using only diet and supplements. 2:06 And I'd say a lot of probably whole food supplements, right, Darren? 2:09 Right. 2:11 Yeah. 2:11 And his seven step blueprint to optimal health and the use of the MVX plus blood test, which we're going to talk about in more depth today has made him 2:21 a leader in foundational nutrition. 2:23 So I'm excited to hear about this test. 2:25 Darren, I know you're a big supporter and I am in the process. 2:29 of looking at it too for how we can help people understand where they're at in the process of aging and longevity. 2:37 So get us started here and tell us a little bit more about what makes the MVX Plus such a game changer, do you think, in medicine? 2:44 And where did it come from? 2:46 Why do we not know more this test already, would you say? 2:49 Okay, so MVX Plus stands for Metabolic Vulnerability Index, and it was released in January of 2025. So it's a pretty new test. 2:56 Okay. 2:57 It was developed by LabCorp and some researchers. 3:03 And it took 10 years of study on over 30,000 people by the NIH. 3:10 Then the UK Biobank tested this on 270, 000 people. 3:14 And what they did was they drew everybody's blood, you know, and this is different groups, maybe six or seven different. 3:21 They drew blood and they just waited for people to pass away. 3:24 And then they looked at their blood after they died and said, what could we have looked to predict their mortality? 3:32 And right out of a few, three dozen different markers, there were six that predict mortality. 3:40 And when I started studying this test in 2024, I realized I fixed all six of these factors. 3:49 And so I wanted to run it on myself and it wasn't available. 3:54 So then I contacted the NIH. 3:57 I contact NASA because I know a rocket scientist there. 4:01 Okay. 4:02 Contacted by five other labs and you have to have a special machine to. 4:05 And I just thought that these labs might have one and nobody would run. 4:09 It. 4:12 Professional Co-op Services, which is a third party vendor for LabCorp. 4:16 And somebody there, it's a kind of a nice story, but I'm gonna keep it real simple. 4:21 He just turned it on. 4:23 Professional co-ops services has like 10 employees and Labcorp has, like, 80,000. But somehow, Professional Club Services has some control over what LabCorp does. 4:34 I don't know how they do it, but they just turn this lab on and now it's available nationwide at Labcorp. 4:40 It's very inexpensive. 4:42 When I sell it I charge $49 for it. 4:44 And I have patients run it every two months and it tracks their health.
The six markers and three health indices 4:50 But the bottom line is, to answer your question, measures cellular health as opposed to measuring symptoms or disease or pathology. 5:00 It's actually measuring cellular in five different ways. 5:04 And then you can improve it and you contract it. 5:07 You can, it can guide you down the right path. 5:10 So this is, so I've been in practice now. 5:13 I started nutrition practice in 98. I studied nutrition in 1993. And I study the history of nutrition back in the 30s. 5:23 That was like the golden era of vitamin discoveries and mitochondrial function was being discovered back then. 5:29 And those guys back then told us what to do to address chronic illness. 5:36 And basically, MDX Plus is it. 5:38 It's what they said to to. 5:39 I don't know, it's just the greatest blood test for humanity. 5:48 You mentioned there's six key factors that this test is measuring. 5:53 Can you go into each one of those for us? 5:56 Yeah, so simply put, We have Glyke A. 6:01 This is not related to sugar. 6:04 It's inflammation and infection. 6:07 So Gleke, it's a combination of several markers, so it is called a multi-marker. 6:13 Okay. 6:14 If Gleyke is too high, then I'm looking for organisms and I am looking at inflammation. 6:19 Got it. 6:20 Okay, the next one is called small atrial particle count. 6:24 Now, this is not your standard lipids like HDL, LDL total cholesterol. 6:28 This is a different way of measuring and it's measuring HDLS, small HDls, and is measuring the number of them. 6:37 And if that's too low, that means a person is toxic and they need some detoxing. 6:42 So I have a patient from a year ago. 6:44 She's now 82. And you want that number to be like 19 and her score was 9. Then we retested like 6 months later and it was 11. Now it's 12. I'm just detoxing her. 6:59 It's taken a years and she's getting better. 7:01 Her palpitations are gone and is going to take another year or so. 7:06 Hopefully she'll get up to 15 and then 18. Okay, the next one is citrate. 7:11 Okay. 7:13 And that has to do with mitochondrial function. 7:15 So we all know we've heard about the Krebs cycle. 7:17 It's also called the nitric acid cycle, so when you measure citrates, if it's too high or too low, it means you need to use some work for the mitochondria. 7:26 Using supplements and diet, that's what it takes to fix these things up. 7:30 Okay, and then the next thing is a combination of three together. 7:36 And these are called the branch chain amino acids. 7:38 Okay. 7:39 So these aren't called these, are valine, leucine and isoleucin. 7:42 These are proteins. 7:44 If they're too high or too low. 7:47 It means something about diet is something, about malnutrition. 7:51 So it could be that they're not eating enough protein, maybe they need too many carbohydrates. 7:55 Maybe they are not getting enough B1 because that helps with digestion. 7:58 And maybe there's some organ dysfunction. 8:01 The gallbladder could congested, the stomach's not making enough hydrochloric acid, those small tests are leaky. 8:08 So that those last three have a lot to do with digestion and utilization of nutrients and absorption. 8:14 These are the six factors that give us our... 8:19 And then we get three indices. 8:23 So the overall index is called the metabolic vulnerability index. 8:26 Okay. 8:27 And that's is a score one to a hundred. 8:29 You want your score to be very low. 8:31 That's how you can predict your five-year mortality. 8:35 I don't want anybody to get scared. 8:38 If your scores too high, just bring it down. 8:40 Then you've just proven that you're going to live longer, that your healthier. 8:46 The next index is the IVX, which stands for Inflammation Vulnerability Index. 8:53 Okay. 8:53 And that's a combination of the glycate and the smaller-shell particle count. 8:57 Then the last one is called the MMX which is Metabolic Malnutrition Index, Which is branched chain amino acids and citrate. 9:05 So there's nine total readings with this task. 9:08 It's very simple, it's easy to read. 9:09 Yeah. 9:11 With the MMS, you know, I can see that people are eating junk food. 9:14 I can see that they cheated during the holidays. 9:20 I see if they need a detox or if have a chronic organism hiding out in their body. 9:25 It's an absolutely great test. 9:27 Awesome and what an incredible at such a price point too is it makes it accessible for people to look at that information more often which I think is also 9:38 very interesting and relevant especially as you're trying to play the game of aging well right and longevity. 9:43 What are your thoughts you know on the best way to approach that perspective when you are at a point with a patient and you really want Their goal is to 9:54 make this health span as optimized as it can be. 9:56 What do you think are some of the key components and advice that you give people in that scenario? 10:02 Well, based on what MDX Plus tells us to go after first, we go down that path. 10:09 And in my career, I created what I call the seven step blueprint to optimal health. 10:14 This is a combination of a variety of people's philosophies on how to deal with chronic illness. 10:20 I borrowed heavily from Cellcore. 10:22 So Dr. 10:23 Todd Wodge created his five step roadmap to health, and I expanded on that.
Seven-step blueprint for optimal health 10:29 Nice. 10:30 And I made it seven. 10:31 I added diet.I added optimization. 10:33 We did different things. 10:35 Optimization is the last step, but so it turns out that my seven-step blueprint totally correlates with the six factors of MVX. 10:44 So it's like a match made in heaven. 10:46 It's all the truths, you know, and the clinical successes I've had in my career. 10:52 have brought us to the seven steps, which I really laid out in 2018. And then in 2025, when this blood test came out, it's like, 11:00 oh my gosh, that validates my whole career. 11:02 I wasn't delusional. 11:04 You know, I saw real time improvements in my patients and I just documented it and just kept going down that. 11:11 And now you have the data to support that and show that to a patient in an actual report. 11:17 Yeah. 11:17 That's awesome. 11:18 Good. 11:19 I know that you and i have known each other for a long time and followed some of your information that, you've been looking at. 11:27 Lactic acidosis is a big topic. 11:29 You've talked about B1 deficiency. 11:32 Tell us a little bit more about where you are at with each of those, how you integrate them in your side of the way that you look at a patient and their 11:40 life cycle of making health improvements. 11:43 Okay. 11:44 So the lactic acidosis subject that is now, that was from the 1930s when that term came about. 11:51 And all the doctors back then thought that lytic acidosis was. 11:55 You know, if you solve that, you're going to solve chronic illness, but it's a mechanism. 11:59 It's not a cause. 12:00 They didn't really understand that. 12:02 Now we know it as mitochondrial dysfunction. 12:06 These are two different things that happen at the same time. 12:14 So I don't know how much biochemistry you want to get into, but in the MVX plus blood test, the citrate is the measurement of mitochondrial function. 12:24 If that's off, then we have lactic acidosis slash mitochondria dysfunction. 12:29 And regarding B1, B1 is needed for digestion improvement. 12:34 So that'll correlate with the three branch chain amino acids. 12:37 B 1 is also responsible for five different biochemical reactions in the mitochondria. 12:42 That's responsible citrate. 12:44 Four of the six factors of MVX plus are directly related to B one status. 12:50 The one deficiency is endemic across our country. 12:55 Doctors miss it because The blood test doesn't work very well. 13:00 You can have a normal level of B1 in your blood, but you're deficient in B 1 in you nervous system, like in the brain. 13:07 Doctors will test B12. 13:12 But they don't test B1. 13:13 So it's not really even tested. 13:15 And when they do, it is not even that worthwhile. 13:17 I just had people take B-1 and I figured out B 1 because in May of 2024, I ended up in the ER with crushing chest pain. 13:27 As I was having strokes, my left arm was numb, left leg was numbed, couldn't breathe, high blood pressure. 13:33 Turns out it was a gas leak. 13:35 And I didn't, in my house, I did know I had a gas leak until December of 2024. So May to December. 13:43 And luckily I'm in this profession and I stumbled upon high dose B1 and they started taking it within one hour of my first dose. 13:54 I was breathing easier.
B1 deficiency and mitochondrial dysfunction 13:55 Nice. 13:57 Yep. 13:57 And then within a week I was 90% better, even though I still had the gas leak. 14:01 So I started researching that like, what is this? 14:03 What's happening? 14:04 And I've put hundreds of people on it since then, and it has been the single greatest nutrient I have ever worked with in my whole career. 14:10 Nice. 14:11 The fat soluble version of B1 that I like is called Benfotiamine. 14:15 There's three others, but the other one that is like it's called TTFD. 14:19 Those have been phenomenal. 14:21 Got it. 14:22 And you mentioned mitochondrial dysfunction. 14:24 Certainly, I'm in full agreement of that. 14:29 I think it also begs the question of, what is it do we think that is actually causing mitochondria dysfunction? 14:36 Because I know both you and I kind of come from the philosophical agreement that body is smart. 14:42 It knows how to heal, it knows to find homeostasis and balance. 14:47 But what do you see as one of the main factors or some of factors that are the biggest impacts to mitochondrial dysfunction in the body? 14:57 So what happens is that the the is toxic. 15:02 of stuff, which I'll get into, and then also deficient of nutrients. 15:05 So the mitochondria needs 22 nutrients and I think B1 is the most important one, but sulfur, iron, manganese, carbon, of course, 15:16 hydrogen, oxygen, But these nutrients are from, you know, bitter foods and meat and like root vegetables and stuff. 15:26 These are not nutrients that you find in junk food. 15:29 So our diets are terrible with junk foods. 15:32 Okay. 15:33 Now, what are the toxins? 15:34 Okay, besides junk Well, hold on, stay there for a second because I think that's an important point that you brought up. 15:40 So certainly dietary changes. 15:42 The first thing to look at is obviously, see, are you eating too much junk food? 15:45 Are you being too highly processed food, but I want to stay here for just a sec. 15:49 And I this is a distinguished point we need to really go through for people because you're talking about supplementation. 15:57 But supplementation, there's a difference, right? 16:00 We know there is a different in uptake when it comes to synthetic sources of supplements versus whole foods. 16:07 So stay there for just a second, Darren. 16:09 Expand on how you've seen that play out in your practice over the years. 16:14 Well, okay. 16:18 When, okay, what I've seen is that patients who, first of all, step one of the seven steps is diet. 16:25 And then step two is mitochondrial function. 16:26 So these are early in the care program of a patient. 16:31 It is so obvious when somebody has a really good diet, their ability to heal is better and they're just going to be doing better overall. 16:38 Yeah. 16:39 Right. 16:39 And then the other aspect of this is that some people have a really good diet for decades, but yet they have toxins in their body. 16:47 For example, they fly on planes all the time and they breathe in jet fuel. 16:51 That's an example. 16:53 And then they're really sick, so then we have to detox them, right? 16:57 Other people have just had a bad diet, but they, they are not filled with toxins. 17:02 They're not full with parasites or mold. 17:04 So you fix your diet up and then in three months they were like doing really, really well. 17:09 That's what, that's, what matters. 17:10 Right now I know that the average adult's diet is 52% junk food. 17:15 The average kid's is over 70% of junk foods. 17:20 So we have RFK Jr. 17:21 now trying to clean up the food supply. 17:23 And there's things that are happening. 17:26 I'm very happy with the changes so far. 17:28 There's a lot more work to be done. 17:29 Yeah. 17:30 We're all on board with that. 17:32 Even though there are some social media MDs who hate RFJr. 17:35 and everything that he does. 17:36 Every single person deep down inside is very happy that our food supply would be cleaned up. 17:41 Right. 17:42 Does that answer your question? 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Toxins, mold, and detoxification strategy 19:05 I also think that it's important to make the distinguishing factor of some of those things like you're talking about, you know, 19:10 sulfur. 19:11 Well, certainly you get some sulfur from, food, obviously, but you also oftentimes need to supplement with particularly the most bioavailable supplementation 19:24 is through whole food supplements too. 19:26 And sometimes when we say whole-food, people tend to think about what's on their plate. 19:31 But, you know, as well as I do that oftentimes the source of meat, for example, or from the animal, the nutrition from animal is usually coming in the 19:40 form of muscle. 19:41 Whereas, oftentimes the things that are most important for us in our nutritional value and overcoming that deficiency is going to be in some of the thing 19:50 we don't want to put on our plate. 19:51 Fair enough? 19:52 Yeah, for sure. 19:53 Yeah it's good. 19:54 So let me expand a little bit on the seven steps then. 19:58 We covered step one, which is diet. 19:59 Step two, mitochondrial function. 20:01 And then step three is preparing the body for detoxification. 20:06 Making sure that the liver, kidneys, colon are working well. 20:10 Those are primarily herbs. 20:12 And step four is cleaning out the gut. 20:15 Step five is, cleaning the organism from head to toe. 20:20 step six is detoxification of metals and chemicals. 20:24 and step seven is the inside of the cells. 20:27 And then step zero, or step O, so we did seven steps, and then O is optimization. 20:33 Nice. 20:33 And that's where the glandulars come in really well because now we're feeding specific organs, nutrients that they really need. 20:41 Again, step O can be done at any point in the seven steps. 20:44 The whole food supplements. 20:45 I'm talking about supplements, right? 20:48 So whole foods supplements can done anywhere on the seventh step. 20:51 At the basis of the 7 steps, the middle is cleansing organisms and toxins. 20:56 Yeah. 20:57 Then nourishing on both ends. 21:00 Nice. 21:01 Nice, great. 21:02 That's great, yeah. 21:03 And so, back to the conversation we're having about mitochondrial dysfunction and talking about some of these things, how does that 7-SIP overlay addressing 21:12 mitochondria efficiencies in bodies? 21:15 Okay, good, yes. 21:15 So, 40% of Americans live or work in a moldy building. 21:22 So mold depletes B1 and mold and mycotoxins can get inside the mitochondria and just be toxic. 21:33 So there's mitochondrial dysfunction from mold. 21:35 Parasites can deplete B-1, parasites can live in the cells, so like Babesia, for example. 21:45 And then candida can even be inside the mitochondria, right? 21:49 So in chemicals, metals, they're in the, so toxicity in a mitochondrial causes dysfunction there. 21:55 And the lack of nutrients in mitochondrion causes disfunction there, Yeah. 22:00 How does that play out too? 22:01 Do you think Darren, in terms of the next generation, how would you say that somebody that procreates with somebody else that has these kinds of dysfunctions, 22:10 what does it look like for the offspring do you thing? 22:13 Yeah, another good question. 22:14 So now I want to bring up genetics. 22:16 We can have genetic in capabilities for transportation, storage, and metabolism of B1. 22:24 And then we have the same in-capabilities related to detoxification or using other nutrients. 22:30 Then we just live on a very toxic planet. 22:33 It's so sad. 22:34 In Hawaii, in some hospital, they've been testing the placentas of newborns Looking for plastic and like in 2019, it was in 60% of the placentas and now 22:46 it's 100% Of the percent has had plastic. 22:50 We know that people have plastic in their lungs. 22:53 It's in there. 22:53 Placking in the arteries. 22:54 That's an Alzheimer's brains. 22:57 And there's actually now saliva testing for this. 23:01 There's only one lab in the world that does saliva-testing for plastic particles, and they're actually based out of Michigan. 23:09 And then there is a solution for that too, there a supplement that gets rid of that. 23:12 Yeah, and we're seeing, too, clinically, that a lot of these toxins that you're talking about, especially heavy metals, plastics, 23:19 are stored deeply in the nervous system, because plastics came in, obviously, probably mostly through oral consumption, but some of the heavy metal came 23:30 through injections. 23:32 And so we're seeing that they're stored a little differently a bit more deeply into the body especially when the exposure comes at such an early stage 23:40 of life being stored in the fat particularly the brain nervous system neural tissue and so you almost have got this like. 23:49 you know, encased toxicity level to where, you're saying you got to start with the surface, the blood, right? 23:56 And tissue detox. 23:58 And certainly we've got great products and tools to see those levels of toxins, but the conversation and the oxidation doesn't go down until you actually 24:09 get to the point of where you facilitated a process where the body can open up the encapsulated toxins. 24:16 And that is something that we've seen in terms of lab testing to oxidative stress. 24:21 The use of even, you know, antioxidant therapy is almost silly to an extent until we get to that level with the body, because there's this continuing factor 24:31 of being leached into the bloodstream that you can, it's hard to get over until you really address it at that You know, even how, 24:41 because we should probably talk to, you talked about mitochondria, but just oxidation, cell oxidation and being able to measure that is an output to another 24:50 factor of looking at toxicity levels. 24:53 What have you seen clinically and how does the MPX cover that aspect too? 24:56 So MVX plus does not measure oxidation, but it does measure toxicity and infections and inflammation.
Testing, tracking progress, and longevity 25:03 So it's, you know, related for sure. 25:05 Yeah. 25:06 But I think I see there's a recent lecture named Dr. 25:09 Thomas Levy, L-E-V-Y. 25:11 He's absolutely amazing cardiologist. 25:15 But he talks about oxidation or accidents as the cause of disease, as he only cause a disease. 25:22 And the truth is, yeah. 25:24 So then what? 25:25 Then you just take vitamin C as an antioxidant. 25:30 That's his solution is IV vitamin c. 25:34 But you got to get the toxins out. 25:37 I mean, what causes oxidation? 25:39 It's toxins, it's mucus from organisms, that's ammonia from organism, is plastic, its chemicals. 25:46 Yeah. 25:46 What you're saying about, I want to bring this up. 25:49 There was a study done. 25:52 You know, NHANES, the National Nutrition Survey. 25:56 So as a subset study, they had the blood tests and urine samples of thousands of people. 26:04 They looked for toxicity and they found that like lead, for example, is in like 98% of Americans. 26:10 There's a few that are just, everybody has it. 26:14 And then they tested 42 different toxins, metals and chemicals. 26:18 And plastic was not one of them because this is a few years ago. 26:21 Okay. 26:22 And they found of the 42 there are six that create the most burden on the people. 26:28 Right. 26:28 So then they looked at of what were those six. 26:33 Uh, there were categories, I don't have it memorized, but I think four of them were chemicals and three, you know, one was definitely metals. 26:41 I remember three of the six were fat soluble, so they're going to go straight to your nervous system, straight into your brain and stuff. 26:48 So of those six then, when you compile them together and you look at what people are burdened with, the people that were most burden, 26:56 like the worst 40% had all the chronic disease. 27:01 So she had the most amount of those six toxins. 27:04 You had, you had that chronic diseases. 27:08 The other 60% were actually doing quite well. 27:10 Okay. 27:11 So like these six, which are the. 27:14 Burden some create the chronic. 27:16 And what is a chronic disease? 27:18 It's Alzheimer's, diabetes, right? 27:20 Heart disease on and on. 27:22 That's you know, so it's toxic again. 27:24 Did they classify cancer as a part of that? 27:27 Chronic disease. 27:28 Yeah, well, they did like a wellness index. 27:31 So yeah, if you had some diagnosed disease, then that would be not wellness. 27:35 Yeah. 27:37 Got it. 27:39 What kind of feedback have you seen with the use of this test inside of practices? 27:43 What have been hearing from other clinicians who are using this particular test to measure, it sounds like, get an idea of toxic burden, 27:53 of stealth pathogen burden but also from a standpoint of longevity? 27:59 Well, it makes life easier. 28:00 Yeah. 28:02 So you present this to people, they run it. 28:07 You know exactly what to do next. 28:09 And you and I both do muscle testing. 28:12 That's very, very helpful. 28:13 But a lot of practitioners don't do biofeedback or muscle-testing and they're relying solely on labs and history. 28:19 This lab is like, It'll tell you where to go. 28:23 It's so cheap. 28:26 then it'll point you in the right direction. 28:27 Now go take this other lab, which might be $400 or $700. You're not doing initially all the very expensive labs at the beginning, 28:32 like $4,000 at beginning. 28:40 And I have patients that they can afford the three, $400 lab tests. 28:44 So we just keep doing MVX Plus and we see the results there in that test. 28:49 Nice. 28:49 The ones that want to spend the money, you know, or I think it's super valuable to track results, we'll do the more expensive tests, 28:56 but at least we're guided. 28:58 You know we are so guided by this lab. 29:00 Yeah. 29:00 And then I will say that too, we make lab testing in our practice optional for people. 29:05 We get a lot of people that have spent thousands of dollars on their lab tests. 29:12 Unfortunately, I think sometimes too and let's make this distinction for It's sort of like put a lot of credence in terms of the testing itself almost 29:22 as if they know you know from the test something about what's going on their body they have the resolution or the treatment and really the tests thing 29:31 is important to make this clear is that testing is really about giving you information about your body it's not the treatments. 29:39 And you and I know that specifically because we're able to, with our skill sets, drill down and customize these healing programs for people at a very individualized level. 29:48 But we can't rely on just the test itself to give us that sequence, that cadence, order of operations, which is what really people need to overcome the 30:00 information they're seeing on these tests and to get that health outcome. 30:03 Yeah. 30:05 Anything else, Jaren, that you think is important for us to, in conclusion, wrap up about this? 30:11 And then we always end each of these episodes with just a better question for the audience to ask themselves about their health, 30:18 maybe about they're testing. 30:20 What would you say comes to mind when I ask you, you know, what is it that is a question that everyone should be asking themselves, 30:27 about there health? 30:28 Yeah, the better question is, what do I need to improve my health? 30:32 Which is different than our standard healthcare system now where people come to a practitioner with a complaint and that relationship is now, 30:42 how do we get rid of that complaint? 30:44 Squashing it, right? 30:45 Anti-depressant, antibacterial, anti whatever. 30:49 The point is improve your health so that these chronic conditions go away. 30:52 Of course, you know, antibiotics are necessary for acute situations, of course. 30:56 Nobody's going to argue that. 30:58 But in the long term, over the course of a year, two, three years, you have to improve your health and then you live longer, 31:05 your healthier, Your medical bills go way down. 31:09 And so it's a whole new viewpoint. 31:11 Your vitality way up, right? 31:13 Your health stands. 31:13 Yeah, vitalities up. 31:14 Improve your house so that diseases and symptoms go away. 31:17 If I tell you it comes up your longevity comes out. 31:20 It's two different industries. 31:22 The acute care medical model with pharmaceuticals. 31:25 versus the chronic health improvement industry with diet and supplements. 31:32 Two different industries, two different types of practitioners. 31:36 Yeah, absolutely. 31:37 Great. 31:38 Well, thank you so much for sharing your time and your knowledge with us today, Darren. 31:42 I appreciate you coming on. 31:43 We'll look at having you again in the future. 31:45 You're welcome. 31:46 Thanks for having me. 31:47 Yeah. 31:48 Thanks for tuning into The Resiliency Method, the truth about healing podcasts. 31:52 If this episode spoke to you, follow, share, and leave us a review. 31:57 Are you ready to go deeper? 31:58 Book your discovery call now at drericaonline.com forward slash discovery and take your first step today.
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