Full Transcript Introduction to the Reversing Alzheimer's Summit 0:00 Hello and welcome to a very special episode of the Reversing 0:03 Alzheimer's Summit. 0:04 I'm one of your co-host, James Maskell, and throughout this week we have amazing 0:08 content talking about the leading lights and reversing 0:12 cognitive decline and all the different aspects of it. 0:15 And I'm really excited to have one to be in person today 0:18 and to have a good friend of mine, the thyroid pharmacist 0:22 Doctor Isabella Wentz, in the studio. Great to be with you. 0:25 So great to be here with you, James. 0:27 Well, I know you can contribute so much to this because one of your talks 0:30 actually, in the functional forum that I've been doing for ten years 0:34 is actually by far the number one talk of all time. 0:36 And that was really about how, thyroid can show up 0:40 in brain related issues and mental health. 0:43 And so I thought we could just start there because ultimately, 0:47 you know, in this summit, 0:48 what we're really looking to do is to help everyone understand the different things 0:52 that can contribute to cognitive decline and Alzheimer's, the drive, 0:55 the things that can drive it forward. 0:56 And in that, one of the key areas that we see is, is hormonal and trophic factors. 1:02 And ultimately I would put thyroid in that in that area. 1:05 So why don't we just start there? 1:07 And I'd love to just sort of catch the audience up on the connection 1:12 between the thyroid and the brain and, and the mechanism 1:15 by which people might get symptoms in, in, in that area. 1:20 Sure. 1:21 So there's a very interesting connection between one thyroid function
Thyroid Function and Brain Symptoms 1:26 and two thyroid autoimmunity, as it relates to brain function. 1:30 So we know if somebody has an overactive thyroid, which is hypothyroidism, 1:36 they're generally going to be more anxious. 1:38 They might have panic attacks, might have a lot of irritability. 1:41 On the other hand, we have hypothyroidism where they have an underactive thyroid. 1:47 And this is oftentimes 1:48 going to be a reason why somebody might have an overall slowing 1:52 down of the function in their body, including their brain. 1:56 So a person might present with symptoms like depression 2:00 and brain fog where they're very, very forgetful. 2:04 They're walking into rooms and they don't quite remember why they're there. 2:08 They're having trouble with word finding. 2:11 And, you know, this is something that wise psychiatrist might be aware of, 2:17 that when a person has depression, you need to check their thyroid function. 2:22 And in some cases, getting them on thyroid hormones 2:26 can reverse that depression in some cases. 2:30 Number one. 2:31 So levothyroxine is the number one prescribed thyroid hormone. 2:36 And this is something that many people 2:39 utilize really really well and can resolve all of their symptoms, 2:43 including that brain fog, fatigue and depression. 2:47 But in other cases this levothyroxine which works as a prodrug, 2:52 which means it has to be turned into the more active version 2:56 of the hormone, doesn't quite convert properly in the body. 3:00 And many people get on thyroid hormone medications 3:04 and they continue to struggle with depression. 3:06 They continue to struggle with brain fog. 3:09 And in some cases, all they might need is utilizing a different type 3:14 of thyroid hormone that's also available as a prescription medication known as T3. 3:19 This is the more biologically active thyroid hormone. 3:23 You can find it in medications like cider mill, lever fire firing, 3:26 and even natural desiccated thyroid extracts, for example. 3:30 Armor. Thyroid is one of the brand names. 3:32 Unfortunately, this is not something that's commonly used, 3:36 but every now and then I'll see a psychiatrist that'll say, hey, 3:39 I have a person with depression. 3:41 I'm going to actually put them on T3 and as many as one, you know, 3:46 30% of those patients might respond where their depression will be 3:50 significantly improved sometimes, oftentimes 3:53 even better than with utilizing traditional antidepressants. 3:57 So this is kind of like a big, big I guess, spectrum of how thyroid disease 4:02 can impact the brain function 4:05 just relating to thyroid hormones. 4:09 The other component that I don't, I feel like 4:11 not a lot of people talk about is thyroid autoimmunity. 4:14 So whenever people have an underactive thyroid or an overactive thyroid, nine 4:21 out of ten times this is because they have an autoimmune response in their bodies. 4:26 That means their immune system is attacking a part of their thyroid 4:30 physiology, and this can lead to additional symptoms. 4:35 So traditionally when we study thyroid disorders, we would have 4:39 a picture of a woman that's cut in half and half of her is hypothyroid. 4:45 The other part of her is underactive thyroid. 4:48 And she looks different, like one side is anxious. 4:50 One side's depressed. 4:52 Now with autoimmune thyroid disease, this can be a mixed presentation 4:56 where you might have a person with anxiety and with depression. 5:01 They might have panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, all kinds of symptoms. 5:07 Actually, the very first symptoms that are recognized in people 5:11 with thyroid autoimmunity are oftentimes anxiety. 5:14 Obsessive compulsive disorder also falls on that spectrum 5:18 is included in that anxiety conversation. 5:21 I've personally seen people who were misdiagnosed 5:24 with bipolar disorder cognitive decline. 5:27 I've seen people who are misdiagnosed with psychotic features. 5:31 There's also something known as Hashimoto's and Sep Allopathy, 5:35 which is a very, very serious disorder that may present 5:38 as psychosis, dementia, really a lot of brain inflammation. 5:42 People can become catatonic from that, 5:44 and that can be related to those elevated thyroid antibodies. 5:48 And they can be 5:49 not just attacking the thyroid, but also attacking parts of the brain. 5:53 Yeah, I'm so glad you shared that. 5:55 And it's interesting, some of the symptoms that you shared there, because it's like 5:59 something's going off, something's going slightly wrong with the physiology.
Thyroid Autoimmunity and Psychiatric Effects 6:04 And in some people it shows up as this sort of, cluster of symptoms. 6:08 In some people it shows up as this. 6:10 But ultimately what's happening is there's like a function 6:12 that is being lost, you know, in the journey. 6:15 And, a lot of the things that you mentioned 6:17 would be some of the things that you might see ahead of cognitive decline. 6:20 And so it seems like understanding what's happening in the physiology is, 6:24 is the first, most important thing. Right? 6:26 Yeah, absolutely. 6:27 The other kind of challenging thing is, I have to say, when I was first 6:31 diagnosed with hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's, 6:36 my TSH was at a level of 4.5, and I was extremely brain fogged 6:42 and I was like a walking sloth or barely walking sloth, exhausted all of the time. 6:47 And my doctor told me that TSH level was normal 6:51 and that I didn't need to be on thyroid hormone. 6:53 Now, most healthy people with appropriate thyroid function 6:58 their TSH, they would do best with the THC right around one. 7:02 And when we look at some of the lab tests that are done 7:05 these days, especially in older adults, a lot of times 7:09 the reference range is overly generous or overly lax, 7:14 where a doctor might see an underactive thyroid on the lab 7:18 result of potentially an older adult, and not really treat it 7:24 because the person is quote unquote, just older. 7:27 And so I think this is a really important consideration for anybody 7:31 struggling with depression, any kind of brain fog to really look at, 7:36 not just what the reference ranges are for proper 7:39 thyroid function by conventional medicine standards, 7:42 but also looking at the reference ranges from an optimal standpoint. 7:47 Yeah. 7:47 You know, as I've spent time 7:48 with Doctor Burke and seeing her go through her journey to work 7:52 with people with cognitive decline, it's amazing to see that one. 7:56 You know, in some cases, it is quite a simple fix, right? 7:59 You get the understanding of what's happening in the physiology. 8:02 And this person was just short of thyroid, you know, hormones. 8:05 And you you know, give those hormones and a lot of symptoms clear up. 8:09 But I think one of the other things that you're speaking to here is just about the 8:13 the doctors can, you know, armed with that information, 8:16 it's all about like, pattern recognition, right? 8:18 So in the data you can see is this a thyroid, 8:21 hormone issue or is this an anti, you know, an autoimmune condition. 8:26 And so it seems like there's, there's some subtlety there to, to identify 8:31 when you help people with this, how do you is your, is your focus to sort of 8:35 empower them to learn about themselves and do it from home? 8:39 Or how do you recommend that 8:40 people go about getting the information about themselves? 8:43 And what's the most critical that you, steps that you recommend for people? 8:47 So my best practices and I'm trained in public health, 8:52 and all of the research there showed that people tend to have the best outcomes 8:56 when they're working with a knowledgeable practitioner, 8:59 and when they themselves are empowered and knowledgeable about their condition.
Optimal Thyroid Testing and Treatment 9:04 So you're going to 9:05 get much better outcomes when you have these two things together. 9:08 I do love, love, love educating people 9:11 on how to take charge of their own health when they have thyroid conditions. 9:15 And part of what I teach them about 9:18 is that when they have a thyroid condition, 9:21 it's not just thyroid hormones that need to be addressed, 9:24 but there's a lot of other things that need to fall into place. 9:28 For example, there are consequences of this thyroid ism. 9:32 So if you've been hypothyroid for a long time, 9:35 that's going to affect other parts of your body. 9:37 For example, you might develop Sibo, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, 9:41 and you might need to correct that 9:43 because that's going to be propagating symptoms, nutrient deficiencies. 9:46 There's also reasons that perhaps lead you to have a thyroid condition. 9:50 Maybe it was some kind of a chronic infection. 9:52 Maybe it was a nutrient 9:53 deficiency, a food reaction, some toxins that were in your system. 9:57 And so I really like to empower people on how to address those things, 10:01 from food sensitivities to nutrient deficiencies, 10:05 to looking at their stress response, to their ability to detox. 10:09 Many of these things people can do in their very own homes, 10:12 some of the things they do need to do with a practitioner 10:16 that knows what they're doing. 10:17 Yeah, but definitely the best outcomes are going to come from the people 10:21 that are both self trained and self-aware and self empowered, and those working 10:27 simultaneously with with practitioners that know what they're doing. 10:30 Wonderful. 10:30 Well, I'm super grateful that we'll be able to, 10:33 you know, provide support for everyone who's listening and watching to this, to, 10:36 you know, to understand what's happening on that end. 10:39 Let me just ask you this. 10:40 So you mentioned thyroid and that sort of 10:41 in the context of hormones outside of the thyroid hormone itself. 10:46 If you look at the sort of broader hormonal regulation system in the body, 10:50 what are some other things 10:51 that you've seen that can contribute to a lack of brain function? 10:55 In, in that realm. 10:56 So definitely perimenopause and any kind of hormonal changes 11:00 in women can contribute to impact can impact brain function. 11:05 So anything like lack of focus can be caused by, for example, 11:10 not having enough progesterone, not having enough progesterone on board 11:15 to things like mood disorders from the hormonal imbalances. 11:19 So I feel like this is a very much underappreciated 11:23 that we're not talking about that women in menopause are more likely 11:27 to have nuance, had psychotic disorders, women and perimenopause, 11:32 women and perimenopause are more likely to have new onset psychiatric disorders, 11:37 whether that's depression, psychosis, higher rates of suicidality. 11:41 And this is I feel like a topic that should get a lot more attention. 11:46 The other component that I really focus on is that stress response, 11:51 as well as the adrenal hormones such as cortisol. 11:55 This cortisol dysregulation is a pattern I very, very commonly see in people
Hormonal Imbalances, Stress, and Adrenal Health 12:01 who are anxious, depressed, 12:04 irritable and deal with brain fog. 12:07 And a lot of times, you know, you have to address not just one hormone, 12:11 but you do have to address quite a few different hormones to get a person 12:15 to be sharp and back on their game again. 12:19 While speaking of sharp and back on the game, look, 12:21 I know that this is very powerful for you and I know you know 12:25 how much work it took initially to get back to a state of health. 12:29 Obviously, what we're trying to do here is to help anyone understand what the root 12:34 causes of that condition might be to try and either prevent or reverse 12:37 the Alzheimer's or the cognitive decline that they're experiencing 12:41 from your experience of, like living with or starting 12:44 having symptoms from, a particular condition 12:47 and now living healthily, right, to keep it at bay. 12:52 What are some of the key things that you feel are 12:56 the most critical for maintaining healthy function? 13:00 For for me, really, it started with figuring out which foods were triggering, 13:05 and gluten and dairy were the two biggest foods for me, 13:08 as well as 80 to 88% of the people that I've worked with. 13:13 And I've done some outcomes surveys with them. 13:16 80% of people feel better dairy free and 88% of people feel better gluten free. 13:22 Utilizing digestive enzymes. 13:25 This doesn't sound like it would be make a lot of sense, 13:29 but many times I have seen people when they use betaine with pepsin, 13:35 their protein digestion improves. 13:38 They're able to take in more amino acids that produced neurotransmitters better, 13:44 so they're able to extract those amino acids out of their proteins. 13:47 And a lot of times their mood improves pain, improves 13:51 their energy levels, and brain function can improve. 13:54 Looking at various nutrient deficiencies, 13:57 methylation is very, very helpful for depression. 14:01 For, a lot of brain function. 14:04 So getting that optimized is going to be critical. 14:07 Generally speaking, I would utilize things like 14:10 methyl folate, tri methyl glycine, riboflavin, 14:14 perhaps some P5P for that to help support brain health. 14:18 And then also interestingly, 14:21 anything that supports the mitochondria, anything that helps to clear out ammonia 14:26 out of the body could be a really, really big game changer for a lot of my clients. 14:32 For fatigue, one of the biggest things that's helped to turn that around, 14:36 and I mean like physical fatigue and mental fatigue, is Bento timing. 14:42 Around 600mg of that can really 14:46 bring back so much more brain function for people. 14:50 And generally speaking, it's going to be in 3 to 5 days 14:54 where I have had people on disability 14:57 for cognitive decline and chronic fatigue, and they're able to come out of that 15:03 with like, this one nutrient and maybe doing a few other lifestyle changes. 15:08 The other really powerful brain changing nutrient 15:13 that I like to utilize is carnitine, and I like to utilize carnitine 15:18 in the combination of l-carnitine with acetyl l-carnitine. 15:22 L-carnitine is for the body. 15:25 So it's really helpful for muscle wasting. 15:29 If you are somebody that's been mold exposed and you have really weak 15:34 muscles, this is going to help to bring that back on board. 15:38 It's going to help you physically feel a lot better. 15:41 It also clears ammonia out of the body, which is a toxic byproduct 15:45 from protein digestion from some of our pathogenic bacteria 15:49 that can really produce a lot of brain fog. 15:52 Yeah. 15:53 And that acetyl l-carnitine is really great for that brain function. 15:57 And just utilizing these two together synergistically,
Diet, Nutrients, and Mitochondrial Support 16:01 I see a really big response in people with like, their brain awakening 16:06 and they're able to have like their body becomes strong again. 16:10 I know one of the things that you've, you've done over the last 16:14 decade is 16:15 use your journey, to inform 16:19 other people on the same journey and not just through, 16:23 like communicating outwards right through the books and so forth. 16:26 You've written about fiber, 16:27 but also taking people through a journey and and seeing how they do. 16:32 And I think that's really exciting because it's no longer 16:34 just like your experience, but the experience of all these people. 16:37 So when you throw out 80% and 88%, this is over a number of people and, lots 16:41 of people over lots of years who have done a very specific process in that journey. 16:46 What have you seen outside of just the gluten and area 16:48 that are the other things that you've seen that have really moved 16:50 the needle for the kind of transformation that we're talking about here? 16:55 Oh my gosh. 16:55 So I've taken thousands 16:57 and thousands of people through like very specific protocols. 17:00 So one of them is the adrenal transformation protocol 17:03 that helps to resolve fatigue and brain fog in the course of four weeks. 17:07 And we do this through focusing on pleasurable activities. 17:12 I feel like people really resonate with that. 17:14 Sometimes people are fatigued and brain fogged and unfocused, 17:20 not because they're doing too much, but 17:22 because they're not doing enough of the right things in their lives. 17:25 That can be like lifestyle changes, that can be really, really great for 17:29 for getting some of those neurotransmitters going again. 17:32 We really focus on blood sugar balance. 17:35 So we're generally adding more protein and fats to people's diets, 17:39 cleaning cleaning up their diets. 17:41 So they're not eating as many carbs. 17:43 They're not having those carb crashes. 17:45 We're focusing on the circadian rhythm. 17:48 So we're really trying to get people getting that morning sunshine 17:52 or some kind of light therapy if they don't live somewhere warm, 17:55 really focusing on getting quality, quality, restorative sleep at night. 18:00 I love to utilize Epsom salts baths for that as well as magnesium. 18:05 I find that the I haven't seen in a research on this, 18:08 but I have seen people's data on whatever tracking things that they use, 18:12 that their deep sleep and restorative sleep and REM sleep improves 18:17 when they're utilizing plenty of like magnesium at bedtime. 18:21 And so they just wake up, they sleep better, and they wake up 18:25 far more refreshed, and their body is able to regenerate. 18:29 Part of the adrenal transformation protocol is 18:33 we really focus on shifting them from that catabolic state, 18:37 where their body is breaking itself down into more of an anabolic state, 18:42 where they're really building themselves back up so that any kind of 18:46 muscle wasting, brain fog, all of those things that really, 18:50 you know, when we're under a lot of stress in our body, stuck in that stress 18:53 response, it's like my body's breaking itself down to fuel that stress 18:58 instead of shifting into that rest and digest process. 19:02 I love neurofeedback, eMDR, like really focusing on trauma work and processing 19:07 that to help to get people back into more of a parasympathetic state. 19:12 If they tend to be more 19:15 in that sympathetic overdrive when their body is just, 19:18 you know, cannibalizing itself, breaking itself down. 19:21 Yeah. Well, that's that's really interesting. 19:23 And I think a lot of people will benefit from, from those ideas. 19:26 One of the things I wanted to ask you about is I know in hormonal balance 19:30 and thyroid as well, and also in cognitive decline a lot. 19:33 One of the topics that we're talking about, 19:35 you know, throughout this summit, is the presence of chemical toxins 19:38 and how those affect hormonal balance or otherwise. 19:42 When you're communicating to your, you know, your 19:44 the people who are coming through your programs, 19:46 what are some of the ways that you see that people can take action? 19:51 I know that there's some part of it where you go to see a doctor 19:53 and you see what's actually going 19:54 on, but like, what are some of the ways that they can participate 19:58 and where are some of these toxins hiding in the environment 20:02 that are sort of low hanging fruit to make a big impact? 20:05 Yeah. 20:06 So I've taken thousands of people through my research 20:09 and it's like, basically we focus on supporting your liver 20:12 and getting rid of the low toxic hanging fruit. 20:15 I started working with clients over ten years ago, and some of them 20:20 I was doing a lot of functional medicine testing and recommending 20:25 various protocols. 20:26 They just really weren't getting better and they were spending a lot of money. 20:28 Yeah. And I was like, can we do for you?
Detoxification and Environmental Toxins 20:31 Couple of them happen to have multiple chemical sensitivities. 20:35 So I randomly thought, why not put them on liver support. 20:40 And with utilizing liver support within two weeks, 20:44 a lot of their symptoms vanished. 20:46 And I was like, wow, this is this is really crazy. 20:51 This is something that's very, very interesting. 20:54 And so what I teach people about is let's clean up your personal routine, 20:59 the things that you're putting on your skin every day and turn into this. 21:02 This is very much absorbed in your body and creating a toxic log. 21:08 A lot of personal care items. 21:10 I know I personally had arsenic toxicity from lipstick out of all things. 21:15 It was like a lip gloss, and a lot of times the cosmetic industry 21:19 is not regulated. 21:20 And so you're putting something on these mucous membranes, 21:23 you're absorbing that into your system. 21:25 A lot of the women I work with, I'm like, okay, 21:28 let's focus on doing a personal care routine cleanup. 21:32 Maybe we're going to not just just not wear personal care items 21:35 for a few weeks and take them down that road. 21:39 We're removing plastics from microwaves. 21:42 You know, 21:42 if you're microwaving 21:43 your food in plastic, then you're you're eating those microplastics, right? 21:47 We're focusing on cleaning up the water supply. 21:50 We know that fluoride 21:51 has been correlated to thyroid disorders as well as a reduced IQ. 21:57 It can absolutely impact cognitive function. 21:59 So I'm a big proponent of utilizing fluoride filters 22:04 to get that minimized to what you're exposed to. 22:07 I'm a big proponent of utilizing air purifiers, 22:10 so we know that mold can be an equal opportunity destroyer. 22:14 This can lead to various autoimmune issues that can lead to cognitive decline. 22:19 And part of that is cleaning up your air space 22:23 and figuring out if perhaps you might have mold overgrowth in your home. 22:28 There are some 22:28 simple test kits that people can purchase and set that up around their home. 22:33 Just as a screening, just just as a beginning standpoint. 22:36 Or they can even work with remediate 22:38 or some practitioners to come in and test their home. 22:41 The other thing that I like to utilize is sauna or sweat therapy. 22:46 30 minutes a day, four days a week. 22:50 This is going to help to clear out so many of those toxins out of your system. 22:54 Really, really big game changer. 22:56 I do love to use like herbs and supplements, just not to force 23:00 the toxins out, but to gently support those detox pathways. 23:04 For example. 23:06 And Acetylcysteine is fantastic for detoxification. 23:10 It was one of the things that, you know, they kind of wanted to take off the market 23:13 and make it into a drug, but thankfully it's still available as a supplement. 23:18 It can be very, very helpful. 23:20 Then there are herbs like milk thistle, 23:23 various amino acids that can help us with our detoxification, 23:27 liver and gallbladder support, magnesium. 23:30 I love to utilize these to really help people process the toxic backlog. 23:36 And sometimes, you know, you might know which specific toxin it is 23:40 and you might do very specific protocols for that particular toxin 23:45 and so on and so forth. 23:47 But it's always best to start with like a broad spectrum in my experience, 23:51 because a lot of these herbs and just supporting your own detox 23:54 pathways, you know, you can get it out through your liver, 23:57 you can poop it out, you can sweat it out. 23:59 And there's much less work for the functional doctor to do, right? 24:02 Yeah, but it's interesting you you mentioned that. 24:05 And I wonder, like you mentioned, a sauna, a sauna, a pop 24:08 part of a Polish culture, or is it just more Scandinavian? 24:12 That's a good question. 24:13 I know the Russian culture has a lot more of that hot therapy. 24:17 Yeah. 24:17 So it's interesting to see, you know, how those kind of cultural norms, 24:21 come along and see. 24:23 I guess one of the things that I just maybe would like to just just touch on is, 24:28 you know, what you're dealing with, with the patients that you work 24:31 and the people that follow you. 24:32 And what we're talking about here 24:34 with cognitive decline, one of the tricky things is 24:38 that it could have so many different root causes, right. 24:41 And that ultimately you could be experiencing 24:44 some of these symptoms and it could be 20 different reasons why it's happening. 24:48 And I just love to get your insight. 24:50 You know, when you speak to patients who are sort of in this stage of unknowing, 24:54 you know, what you what how you how you think about what is the 24:58 what is the quickest and most efficient, affordable way to identify 25:03 what's going on and also then to do something about it. 25:07 Well, like, I mean, you're just inspiring me with everything that you're doing. 25:11 I have like an old school assessment that I would take people through, 25:14 and it was 600 questions to really figure out 25:18 what might be their main drivers or main root causes. 25:21 Right breast implant illness, for example, is a very 25:26 is potentially a 25:27 very important cause of autoimmunity and inflammation.
Root-Cause Assessment and Practical Protocols 25:31 If you don't have breast implants, that's probably not your report. 25:34 That's right. 25:35 But there's a lot of different things that we can do. 25:37 And just simply asking people what their symptoms might be and getting 25:42 a little bit of their history 25:43 to try to predict what are the things we might want to do next 25:48 as far as which are the lab tests we should invest in, right? 25:52 Yeah, because it's like doing so much lab testing. 25:54 I love it. It's so much data. Yes. 25:57 But I've also had some people, like I tell them to test their adrenals. 26:01 And a year later, 26:02 the tests are still sitting on their shelf and they're still having 26:05 those same symptoms. 26:06 So I do love assessments and lab testing. 26:10 I also have very specific protocols where I've compiled the data on the people 26:16 that I've worked with, and I've been like, okay, I see about 30% of them 26:20 have this protozoa that causes a lot of gut inflammation 26:24 and has some cross-reactivity with the thyroid. 26:27 When we treat the protozoa, that person can get into remission. 26:31 So I'm like, okay, that's that's an interesting data point. 26:34 And then I see some people have Candida and some people have this 26:38 and some people have that. 26:39 And I kind of look at what's something that we can use. 26:42 That's low risk that would help all of these things. 26:45 And so I'll, I'll come up with something. 26:47 For example, in this case it's sarcoma is baladi. 26:50 It's a beneficial yeast that helps to clear out protozoa 26:54 raises immune secretory IGA. 26:56 So people gut immune system is stronger. 26:59 It's able to overcome various infections. 27:01 It helps to bind up some mold toxins. 27:05 So it helps with that. 27:07 And I've created protocols for people where my goal is always to help. 27:12 About 80% of people feel 80% better 27:15 where they can go through a guided liver protocol. 27:18 That's two weeks of lifestyle changes and two weeks of supplements. 27:24 And then we go through a four week adrenal protocol similar again here. 27:29 The lifestyle changes 27:30 to really dial in on that brain fog and fatigue, irritability. 27:35 And then we have like, gut protocol to really dial that in where my Michael, 27:40 you know, having worked in public health is I, I'm, I love outcomes research and 27:44 I love looking at the data and being like okay what's the biggest needle mover? 27:48 What's the biggest game changer. 27:50 And we can I feel like we can use that in conjunction 27:53 with functional medicine testing and in conjunction 27:57 with all of the fancy things, but sometimes it's like, you know, 28:01 some people get off of gluten and a lot of a lot of them 28:04 and a lot of the symptoms just vanish. 28:05 So it's like, why not like start there 28:08 before we go into like this really deep level diagnostic. 28:13 Beautiful. 28:13 Well, Isabella, thank you so much for being part of this. 28:16 I really think your wisdom is going to help so many people. 28:18 And part of what I'm excited about is that you know, as people are empowered 28:22 and start to participate and start 28:23 to learn about their body and, you know, do different things and experience it. 28:28 And so also then have so much wisdom in the community 28:31 between the practitioners 28:33 that we're working with at junior, but also like the programs 28:36 that you've developed, I think right now, there's a better chance for everyone 28:41 to live a long and healthy life, free of chronic disease, 28:44 free of cognitive decline, free of Alzheimer's, free of dementia. 28:48 And thank you for all your pioneering work and being part of the community. 28:52 Thank you so much for having me, and thank you for starting 28:55 these conversations, for building the communities that you've built and 28:59 from empowering practitioners and patients so that we could all live healthier. 29:04 Thank you. 29:04 This has been part of the Hormonal and Trophic Education Day 29:08 as part of the Reversing Alzheimer's Summit. 29:10 We got loads more good stuff for you, but check out Doctor Isabella Wentz. 29:15 All of the content that she puts out. 29:17 She has a great podcast and you can find out more about her everywhere. 29:21 Thank you.
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