Safely Using PEMF in MCAS

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Welcome back to this episode of the Reversing Marcel Activation Syndrome and Histamine Intolerance Summit. I'm your host, Beth O'Hara, with Mast cell 360. I'm really excited to have Doctor William Pollack with us today. And he's a holistic doctor space near Baltimore, Maryland. This is extensive training and acupuncture, homeopathy, hypnosis, energy medicine, nutrition and bodywork. And he is the foremost authority on the practical use of what's called PMA pulsed electromagnetic field therapy. And what's going to be exciting about this is this brings a new angle to dealing with chronic conditions, dealing with pain, and a number of other types of things that might be fascinating to hear how PMF can help.

And we're going to dive into the specifically with mast cell activation syndrome. And Doctor Pollack also has two books, Power Tools for Health and Supercharge Your Health with PMF therapy. Welcome. I'm so happy to have you with us. Thank you Brad. It's a pleasure to be with you and to share with your audience and viewers and how everybody gets into these types of things for one reason or another. What got you interested in PMF? So back in the 80s. I was a family physician and I was working with a big group, big medical group.

And, we shared hospital patients. So in a in the span of about a week or two weeks, we ended up having two patients admitted to the hospital with gastric bleeding. They were having bleeding. And you have to figure out why they have bleeding. And we found out they were bleeding from their stomachs and what they had in common, and one almost died. So, the commonality for both of those people was ibuprofen. So they were using ibuprofen heavily or on a daily basis to deal with their pain. And so after taking care of them and fortunately getting them out of the hospital, then the question becomes, what?

What do I do now for their pain? So back in the 80s, there weren't a lot of solution for pain. It was the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, including aspirin and ibuprofen or opiates. And in the 80s opiates were anathema. I mean, you don't prescribe opiates unless you're. Absolutely. And then the world changed in the next 10 to 20 years and say opiates are fine here. Give them candy. Give them give them all the opiates. Say what? It's okay. Well, now we know, of course, that that's not the case. So back then at least I said this is stupid.

Medicine is doing the same thing. Is insanity doing the same thing over and over again, expecting never to have a complication. Right. A twist on that whole saying. So I said I got to do something different. I have to find a different way to help people with their pain problems that doesn't rely on the traditional things that we were using procedures, opiates and ibuprofen. So I said, I think I'm going to study acupuncture. So I looked around the landscape and said, okay, I'm going to hone in on acting, so I'm going to leave the house of medicine.

I'm going to stray from the flock and go and learn acupuncture, especially. Then I was going to get you in trouble. Well, yeah, I could, but unfortunately I was obstinate and maybe stupid, they would say, but yeah, so I learned acupuncture. And then when I finished the acupuncture training, I came back into the world

How PMF Therapy Began 3:00

and were prepared with all my new tools, and I'm going to do acupuncture. And lo and behold, people said, no way. I'm not going to have needles put in my body. Not on purpose, not off, not voluntarily. And so I was getting so much resistance. I said, okay, fine. What's another way to do acupuncture without using needles? Well, now we know about palpation. So you can rub points. You can use ice and cold. You can use heat. You can use now we know lasers. You can use color therapies. There's all kinds of ways and besides needles.

But I also discovered that in the Orient they were using magnets. They were taking these small little powerful magnets and putting them on acupuncture points. And you get a similar benefit to the acupuncture system by doing that. So I started doing that working with, with magnets and yes, they work. But along the way I discovered that when I put magnets on different parts of the of the body, strange things happen. Lesions went away. You don't have that happening with acupuncture. Wow. That's interesting. Right?

Swelling, swallowing improved. I had I got a spider bite by myself one time. I didn't even know I got did actually, I looked down, my skin was itchy, my leg was itchy. And there was this quarter sized lesion, big red welt. And it had that center point that, you know, you got bit. And usually that's going to swell right away. And it's going to take a couple of weeks for it to go away. Well I put this big thick magnet on it. Just take it on my skin literally within three hours gone. Wow. Gone disappeared.

And my experience as a family doctor, I'd seen so many spider bites over the years, I knew, you know, not only would take a week to two weeks for it to get better. So like what is going on here, right? So I started studying magnets. I use the more extensively. I got all kinds of magnetic systems and so on. And I finally met a doctor from the Czech Republic, and I didn't have access to the science, to the medical literature about magnetics, because most of it was hidden behind the Iron Curtain. It was in Russian or Cyrillic, so I didn't have access to that information.

I knew there were there was information out there. I didn't have access to it. But this doctor that I met from the Czech Republic got his PhD in magnetic field therapy, and he had to translate for his thesis. He had to translate a lot of that science. So he had a manuscript, how it was written in what I call Czech, English. It was an English, English, it was Czech, English. And not only that, it was Czech technical English. So he gave me the manuscript, I worked on it, reread, did the manuscript, and we produced.

I produced my first book called Magnetic Field Therapy in Eastern Europe, a review of 30 years of research. And that was in around 2000. I produced that book. So I finally started getting here's the science. I said, wow, this is amazing stuff. And it was impressive. It was impressive science, and it was impressive results for a very but I thought very safe and simple technology. So I started getting devices from from Europe. I started working with those devices and that is the journey so far. So as I grew with that group that experience, I developed my first website, Doctor Polycom, and that was more information.

We didn't promote devices or products, but everybody kept asking me what device, it's great, what should I use? What should I how do I use it? So then we started arranging for, devices to be obtained, obtainable through us. And then we provided people with a training for that. So we eventually evolved to store. Now we didn't make the devices we got them from primarily from Europe. And then, after that, after having a website for as long as I did and seeing that through many benefits, the results from magnetic therapy, I wrote my first book called, Power Tools for health, and that had the science go, all had accumulate all this science over those years, and it was hard to find that science is hard to find.

It's not like there is a there is a, an organization called BMF. It's bio electromagnetic society. It's all basic scientists that are writing on there. This is not a this is not a layperson's library. So I had to gather information from all sorts of sources and put them into the book. And we have over 500 references now to say, here's the science. It's not wall, it's physics. It's physical therapy in its own way. It does all kinds of things. So it's just not at all. And it's pretty well known in Europe.

So we're still at the very early stages of growing this technology and growing this science. And it's beginning to more and more doctors are beginning to accept it, not conventional doctors are beginning to accept this technology. So that's the history leading to now. And so that's a really interesting history. And my experience with PMF is being at a conference. And some of our or some of our community members know that I've had some really severe ligament damage in my neck and my my shoulder in various places, and I was in so much pain.

I had traveled on my own. I pulled my suitcases and my neck was just intense pain. I was having trouble constantly reading and I could not get the pain to go down. And somebody said, let's use some PMF on your neck. And we used it locally on my neck, and within ten minutes this searing, excruciating red hot pain was gone. It was the first time I had had that kind of relief, and I don't get that relief with painkillers, and I don't get that relief. I get some relief at topicals. But it was so interesting to me, and I really excited to learn more from you today about PMF and how we can use it, and also how do we hone in on it when we have mass observation syndrome?

Because I did do a whole math and I was looking at getting a unit built with that whole mat, I got inflamed. And I know you're going to talk about and we've talked about before why that happened and how that that more localized application worked really well. We should probably start with for people who are brand new to this, what is PMF? And let's also talk about we have so many people have EMF sensitivity how those are different worlds apart, literally worlds apart. And even though EMF is in both of them, EMF stands for electromagnetic fields that we have associated with EMF, with environmental magnetic fields like Wi-Fi routers and primarily Wi-Fi routers, cell phones, cell towers, and so on.

So that's what most people think of EMF, how the major difference between the two is that air maps are broadcast into the environment and they have a wavelength. So those are electromagnetic fields are broadcast. And that's what we call technically speaking, we call it open loop. It's an open loop. Now pmfs are generated by current flow through a wire. So there's something called the right hand rule. So if a current is flowing through this wire let's say my thumb is a wire and there's current flowing through it.

And that current is oscillating just like our power lines are oscillating. And with every pulse, every oscillation, a magnetic field is produced that's perpendicular to the flow of the field. So basically the magnetic field is going like this. And so it opens and collapse, opens and collapses with each pulse. That's called a closed loop because it's coming back down to its source. Now, the size of that magnetic field emanating from that wire depends on the intensity of the current flowing through the wire.

All right. But it's always a closed loop. The good thing about magnetic fields, whether it's open loop or closed loop, is it's brought as as it goes out, it will pass through almost every now and then. It doesn't pass through typically would be metal. But what it does with metal is it bends around it. It may not go through it, but it bends around it. So it doesn't matter whether it's bone or skin or brain or fat or muscle, it doesn't matter.

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It goes through that as if it was not even there. So the magnetic field doesn't care about the body, doesn't even know about, is there? There's no resistance to it does get used up. All right. So the closed loop systems now, which is what we call with Pmfs, are designed for healing purposes primarily Wi-Fi. Cell phones are designed for communication purposes. Right. They have a different purpose. And so they're designed for that purpose, even though they may have physical consequence. So the difference then between a Wi-Fi signal and a PMF signal is that a wave Wi-Fi signal wavelength is extremely short, which means it gets absorbed by the body.

It can go through the body to some extent, but basically it gets absorbed. And that's the principle behind microwave ovens. All right. You put that in there. You blast it with these microwaves and it heats. So when we are bombarding our bodies with microwaves we heat. And those are short waves because they're extremely short wave and they get absorbed. They don't go all the way through, they get absorbed. And so if you hold a cell phone to your ear, you take the cell phone away, you can see the ears, read.

What you've been doing basically is cooking your ear, and you're also cooking the brain underneath to some extent. Yeah, right. Because it's absorbed. And if you look at the opposite ear, the opposite ear, maybe a little redder as well, but not anywhere as intense as the side that you had the cell phone. So the longer you hold the cell phone there, the more cooking goes on. Right? So that's the reason that it's bad for you, is because it's absorbed and therefore creates heating, which then creates cellular damage that creates DNA damage and so on.

Pmfs don't do that, right. They're passive and they go completely through the body. They don't stay in the body at all. So as long as it's less than about 100MHz, it's passing complete through. When I talk to about how the Earth has magnetic fields, and we talk a lot in our community about the importance of regulating the nervous system through grounding and putting our feet on the ground and connecting with that magnetic field. Is there a relationship with that and PMF? Not really, because the Earth's magnetic field is a static make, not a field.

It's like a like a bar magnet. It's just there. There's a little bit of variation to it, primarily because of the polar regions and so on. The radiation coming in from the universe, if you will, a solar system in a galaxy. But essentially it's a static field. And so, when you ground grounding is in many ways the same as having a copper bracelet. So the copper is not active, right? It's not electrical, it's not doing anything. But the copper ions are interacting with the electrolytes and the minerals in the skin.

So when you put a copper bracelet on your skin, it's not allowing the skin underneath it to breathe adequately. It's still breathing, but not adequately. And so what you do is you get fluid buildup, and that fluid buildup is full of electrolytes. And the electrolytes from the body are interacting with the ions from the copper, which then creates a dielectric. It's called a dielectric a current. And that current is six acupuncture meridians that go through the wrist. So that current then is going up the body.

So when you're walking on the ground, you're walking on minerals in the soil which are interacting with the electrolytes in your skin, which then causes voltage production in the body, minimal is minimal, but there's some voltage production in the body. And that's the principle behind how earthing and grounding work. Now, earthing and grounding are extremely weak. The current flowing through as a result of the copper bracelet is extremely weak. So because it's extremely weak, it's not that active in the body.

And it may help you a little bit with pain. Acupuncture helps with pain as well, but it's not powerful and it doesn't do cellular repair and healing. So you can increase the variation of the intensity of the magnetic field. With magnetic therapy you have control over that depending on the device that you get. So that's going to produce typically a much stronger action electrolytic and charge based action in the body then grounding. Ever. So grounding is nice to have. It's good to be out there in the soil, right?

It's good to connect with nature from other for other reasons, but it's not going to be as powerful a healing agent. And the same thing often happens with healers, qigong masters who are on other healing on hand healers. And what are they healing? One of the most the biggest things that they're doing is they're projecting their own electromagnetic fields into the body. And our bodies have something called magnetite. All the tissues of the body have magnetite, birds have magnetite, birds can navigate at night and and in clouds because they the magnetite then aligns them with the Earth's magnetic fields.

So we have magnetite too. So if you interact with that magnetite with an electric field or another magnetic field, then you cause changes in the body that that are produced through that magnetite interaction. So the Earth's magnetic field is interacting with your magnetite. Humans have actually been found to be able to orient relative to the field lines of the Earth as well. So you blank out their vision, you break out their sound and hearing, and you blank out the environment, and then you spin them on a chair and ask them what direction they're they're facing.

85% of the time they'll tell you the direction correctly. That's fascinating because our magnetite is causing that orientation. So the magnetite again relates to grounding. And and Earth. That's fascinating. Well, I think what will help people in terms of transitioning into how PMF helps is to know that our bodies actually function on electromagnetic energy. Naturally, this is happening on the cellular level. But like most people think about biochemistry, they're not thinking of bio physics. Can you give you just an introduction of that that will help them understand how PMF works?

I I'm glad you asked that question because I, I describe it in terms of layering. First layer is tissue. That's what we're used to. We just see it as tissue. Right. But what makes tissue molecules and water molecules chemistry. What controls chemistry, physics the laws of the universe control the chemistry. So chemistry physics can be used then to control chemistry. And then subsequently it controls the tissue. If you get a big enough action going. And what controls physics, quantum physics and what controls quantum physics, lets say spirit or whatever spirit is.

So physics that magnetic field therapy is physics. And when you put a magnetic field through a medium of some kind, whether it's saline or whether it's a body, then your physics, the magnetic fields are affecting the electrochemistry. So the chemistry is not just chemistry, it's electrochemistry. And every molecule, every atom has a magnetic field. There's nothing in the body that's not a magnetic field. And so when you add up the organs, when you add up the tissues in an organ, then each organ produces its own magnetic field.

And those have been mapped extensively. And the biggest magnetic fields in the body are the brain and the heart. They've been measured. And now we have instruments that measure them. And actually we decide on treatments based on those electromagnetic, measurements. So the body is electromagnetic regardless, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it is electromagnetic. And because of that, it follows the laws of physics and the laws of physics says if you have a charge or if you have electromagnetic, you have molecules interacting with each other.

This charge positive and negative ions like a battery. Right. So electrolytes. So our bodies are basically one big bag of electrolytes. We think of it that way. That means it's constantly in motion. Those electrical charges are working constantly. We have let's say 100 trillion cells in our body. And every cell has about 5000 biochemical reactions per second. Right. It's in motion all the time. Even when we're dead, the molecules that are left over are still in motion. So even when we're dead, we're not really dead.

Think of it that way. All right, so you're obviously correct. Our body is an electromagnetic apparatus. And when you have an electromagnetic apparatus and you have magnetic fields, they interact with each other. And one of the most important ways that they interact is through something called Faraday's law. And Thomas Faraday discovered this law, this principle that when you pass a magnetic field through tissues that have charge capability and the magnetic field will induce charge, and those tissues will create charge, will create energy in those tissues.

And the higher the magnetic field and the faster rises, the more energy is going to be produced in the body. That's why higher intensity magnetic fields tend to do more charge production in the body, create more beneficial actions. In terms of healing, they'll do it much better, much faster than very low intensity magnetic systems around it. And I think we have to talk about to why why would we even need something like PMF in the first place, that we were living in a world where different, these different conditions are developing, that are affecting

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the electromagnetic fields or the natural fields in our bodies. I know mold toxicity has a huge impact on these types of things. The artificial emfs that we're being exposed to from the cell phone towers and all that are affecting us. Chemicals affect us on these kinds of levels. Things like Lyme disease affect the biophysics of the body. Are they all of these affect the cells and the cellular function and create inflammation. So there these things happen because of imbalances. Cells that are in balance are constantly interacting with each other in a dance.

And one cell does not tend to dominate over another cell. The body's always constantly self-correcting. That's called homeostasis. And so when you have, an overwhelming problem to the body, like dropping a brick on a tile that's overwhelming and the body immediately kicks in all kinds of defense mechanisms and repair mechanisms, and it does the best it can given the circumstances. So the worst, the worst the impact is the more damage is done by the impact, the more work the body has to do to repair it and the longer that it takes.

So we we, we take these things for granted, 5000 biochemical processes per second, and they're all in a dance. So they're all trying to repair and balance. So anything's out of whack. The body will try to bring it back at the balance. And when it can't it finds the best balance it can in the presence of imbalance. If you're missing a leg right, you're going to find the best way to balance in the presence of your imbalance. And most of those things in our bodies are more subtle. So we have impacts on our biology today that we never had 300 years ago.

We never had 100 years ago. They're new, they're novel, and they're cost or in constant exposure to it. The other thing that happens to humanity these days, and certainly in our culture, but we don't move enough. And when you're moving in the among the field lines of the Earth, you're constantly stimulating repair process of the body. You're stimulating magnetic fields in the body naturally so we don't move enough. And then our foods are poisoned, aren't the nutrients that we need to build cells are poisoned, right?

We have the Wi-Fi poisoned. We have attitudinal problems that are poisoning as well. So we have all these debates and arguments and schisms in our society. Well, that causes imbalance. And it's always we're not we're not happy and balanced in our thought processes either. All of that down cascades down into the organism. Because your mind can actually create healing. You can and hate engage your mind, create healing. And because we are in a culture that's also moving away from spirituality, right?

We don't think of spirituality as being a resource for us in terms of maintaining our our balances in the body and engaging those resources for our own healing purposes. So MCAs is just one part of a spectrum of problems in the body. And MCAs, like the other things that cause MCs are inflammation. Inflammation is the root, probably at the root of most of this. And magnetic field therapy impacts inflammation in a big way. So and that's why we need all these healing modalities that we didn't need a long time ago.

And I think of those of us with with muscle activation syndrome, where the canaries in the coal mine, we're the ones that are just presenting with the symptoms first, which is very unpleasant, but at the same time, it gets us motivated to get our health back in balance. And I'd much rather get my health in balance now than wait 20 years for it to manifest as stage for cancer. Exactly. Because all of these things and we've done other talks on things like cell danger response, know all these different inflammatory conditions on the cellular level are just different manifestations of the same disruptions, the same dysfunction.

The body has a very relatively limited repertoire of damage and repair. So it's not it's not we have all these diagnoses and we have all these conditions. And but they're not telling us what the basic physiologic problems are. So most diseases have inflammation as a as a root problem. Right. We create labels for things because we have different kinds of manifestations of the different conditions. So cancer is a different manifestation of problems. But it's the same kinds of problems just a different manifestation.

A headache is a different manifestation of similar kinds of problems. And in my book, Power Tools for health, I outline about 25 different actions of magnetic fields in the body, how they affect physiologic function, and what that's doing. And again, is trying to help the body to restore balance. Can we highlight I've read some of your work and it's fascinating the broad capabilities applications of PMF. Can we just highlight some of those and then get specifically into it for massage activation syndrome.

So inflammation is one of the keys. I started this journey actually with acupuncture. Right. So I discovered that magnetic fields impacted acupuncture points and meridians. And I teach a course to acupuncturists as well on how to integrate acupuncture and magnetic field therapy. Because acupuncture doesn't typically heal the self, it doesn't heal the tissue. It balances the body and the meridians and the energy flows, but it doesn't heal. So combining the two creates much more effective action. So acupuncture is a key.

Anytime you do magnetic field therapy on the body, you're doing it and you're doing a whole body magnetic therapy doing whole body acupuncture. So you're always getting that benefit of the acupuncture. Circulation is a big one. And there are many companies out there that are selling magnetic devices. Hey, circulation. It's all about circulation. No, it's not just about circular. It is a it is important, but it's not just circular. Oxygenation. So if you improve circulation, you improve oxygenation.

But circulation doesn't take care of, inflammation. It takes care of the edema that inflammation can cause. So if you improve the circulation in the tissues, then you decrease the swelling of the tissue, which inhibits, healing as well. So reduction of swelling becomes an important part of this stimulating stem cell stem cells cause repair. That's what we need to be able to repair a tissue. So magnetic field therapy stimulates stem cells. It causes increased repair in the body. Repair is enhanced dramatically.

So a wound can be healed in about half the time that it would normally take because it's accelerating stem cells is accelerating the charge and the energy ATP production. Magnetic field therapy increases ATP production by between 100 to 400% 600%, just that alone. So I warn people that the biggest, one of the biggest problems with magnetic field therapy is that, is if you get an urge to put on a cape. And it's okay to put on the cape, I just don't try to jump over anything tall. All right. So the energy is increased, I think.

And again, there's so many different actions. And that's all outlined in both the supercharge book and also in the Power Tools book. And all those actions are the body's actions. The magnetic field is like the wind blowing through the trees. You can't see it, you might feel it, but you can't see it, and you only know it's there because the leaves are moving. So you will know that a magnetic field is going through your body because you feel some of those action like improved circulation. What are the key benefits of PMA therapy by itself, without doing anything else?

Is pain reduction. That's probably what you experience, and that happens almost immediately. What happens, though is that you can have pain reduction, but then after a certain amount of time, after you get treatment, pain comes back. Why? Because you haven't healed the cost and the beauty of magnetic field therapies.

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It gives you that edge to help to heal, that decrease the pain while you continue the magnetic field therapy. Then you're helping the tissues to heal themselves, and then the pain doesn't come back. But once you've done the healing, it doesn't come back. So for MCs, probably the most important things for fcas about magnetic field therapy, is the reduction of inflammation. And the second thing is the healing of the tissue. All the damage that the inflammation is causing or whatever caused the inflammation in the first place.

That has to be healed as well. But it can be a very slow process. Once you have MSCs, you're, I think, really way down the road in terms of the snowball building, and then it becomes harder and harder and harder to reverse. So the sooner you people can start approaching. SARS is not a diagnosis that people get until they're way down the road, typically. So that means that whatever magnetic therapy you do has to be done very gradually, very low intensity, be respectful to the body, listen to the body and adjust as as the body says, you can do more.

And I call that training. So you can't get off the couch and run a marathon tomorrow. You have to train and it's going to hurt. Fortunately, magnetic field therapy doesn't cause problem, it reveals problem. So if you have a reaction to a magnetic field, it's negative. That's because you did too much too soon and that tissue is telling you it's too much too soon. So all you do then is back off, and you have to find a way to be able to back off and still get benefit and progress progression. And that's really critical as I see it over and over and over, whether we're talking about supplements, we're talking about bringing on exercise, we're bringing on, a vagal nerve type of modality.

People are often people in our audience, or they're the the really working hard to get well, and they want to do everything to get well. And and I've done this a million times myself. And being an overachiever, I want to do 150%. And then and then I'm set back. So one of the mottos I use is in this method for for Marcel activation syndrome, slow will be fast, but if we try to go too fast, it's going to take longer in the long run because we just keep giving setbacks. So what you're saying is so critical, particularly when bringing on a modality that's really powerful, like PMS, we can.

How would you recommend people who are quite sensitive and quite inflamed? Would they start with a local area? Would they start with 1 or 2 minutes? Well, again, this is a very long discussion. And in the Supercharge Your Health book, I actually in the appendix of the Supercharge Your Health book, I have, and I love low and slow protocol. So I advise people how how quickly they could advance. It's how people can advance very quickly. And now people can take months even to go to the next level. And some people can't even tolerate the least amount of magnetic stimulation and have to do it more indirectly.

And we we work with people who purchase magnetic systems through, through through doctor Polycom to be able to develop that. And I do strongly recommend that if you're considering magnetic field therapy and you have MCAs, you really ought to get the book Supercharge Your Health. And I'll link to that on our Summit Resources page at Marcel three six eCommerce summit so people can find your book. So I think it's very important. So one of the key things about magnetic magnetic field therapy, I had to learn this the hard way as well.

I've worked with magnetic fields for 30 years and of course for 30 years. You can make a lot of mistakes with magnetic field therapy. It's not a mistake that hurts and can hurt, but it's not going to harm you. But you could feel like it's harming you, but you might encounter comfortable comfort. So what I found is that the less the least amount of stimulation you get to your body, the better. So if you're listening to heavy metal music, I don't know how many people with mics like to listen to heavy metal.

I'm probably not. So soothing music, low paced, slow music is more likely to be sort of acceptable to your body and tolerable. I think that field therapy could be the same thing. So devices that provide you a lot of frequencies, and there are lots of companies that are selling these devices because that's all they sell. And they're going to convince you that their device is going to solve all your problems. So intensity matters. It has these magnetic field matters to get deeper healing. But then you do need to control the amount of stimulation that you give the body.

So what I've learned the painful way over the years is that devices that give you a single frequency at a time that you can select, select that frequency. The devices that give you a single frequency at a time are the least aggravating. The intensity still matters, because if you're once you start to stimulate tissues, when you start to increase circulation in the tissue, then circulation increases inflammation. So the more inflammation you have and the slower you're going to have to go. Typically, unless you have high levels of talent.

But the faster you go in helping the inflammation, the faster you'll heal. So it's a matter of tolerance because you can't make that. A therapy can't fundamentally hurt you. You might not feel comfortable, but it can't hurt you. So go low and slow. Use the same single frequency machine that basically is a pulse machine, and you'll read on the internet. There's a lot of people say that high intensity magnetic fields are dangerous and they'll hurt you. But again, a good part of that, the thinking comes from the fact that that's all they're selling is that machine, and they don't necessarily know much about the science, and most of them have never read my book, Supercharge Your Health. Right.

But then if you want you to know how to control it, then you will gain better. You'll go better and deeper. You'll be able to heal deeper into your body with a higher density magnetic field. Because magnetic fields drop off very rapidly based on a law of physics called the inverse square law. So like with light and sound and heat, the farther you move away from the source, the faster that energy drops off. Magnetic fields are the same way. So you control the intensity, you control the dose, and you control the, the treatment time and then find a way that works best for you.

Eventually, as you heal the tissues, you'll be able to do more and more and more and more. And again, you'll hold what you've done as well, better. And so there's a different, different types of frequencies that you're going to use depending on what area you want to treat. So if I'm going after the ligaments that are right here under the surface of the skin and the muscles in my neck, I don't need to go as deep as if I'm working with heart or liver or kidneys. Yeah. And that's one of the things I really appreciate about your work, is that you're not about, well, there's one size fits all, which never works in this community.

It's about finding the right fit for the right person.

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And and your organization does a lot of support for people with that. And I know you have, even a comparison chart where you've narrowed down for people the type of PMF devices that are more, usually much the best tolerated for people with muscle activation syndrome. So they have some choices in there, correct? Correct. And again, you have to be able to control the intensity. You have to control the frequencies. You don't want too many frequencies. And if you just choose the intensity most of the time on the single intensity devices, you don't worry about the pulse rate.

You just don't have to worry about that. Because what you're aiming for us to heal the tissue. So then you want a local device. So for your head, for your brain, you're right for treating the neck is very close to the brain, and anything that's close to the brain is going to influence the way the brain works. And the brain has its oscillations, right? It has its own frequency. So there's a different frequencies for being alert and listening and learning like people like you are. Hopefully not sleeping those alpha waves.

So our beta and beta waves. Yeah. And gamma. So beta and gamma are are they frequencies that are the wide awake frequency, mental processing if you're, alpha, for example, is what I call it, basically a neutral frequency. It's the observer frequency. You're just looking, but you're not thinking, you're not processing, you're not like you just aware. And then below that, we go into the frequencies that control, our levels of alertness and awareness. So theta and delta. So you can choose magnetic systems that will give you those kinds of choices.

So if you're going to be treated the back of your head, it really doesn't matter what frequency you use. But it does matter if you want to be driving, you don't want to be in Delta or Theta while you're driving. So you can actually get devices that will give you treat that area, but at the same time keep you alert. So this is where your book will be so helpful for people. And then I'm going to put the download that you've made for them on the Summit Resources page as well, about the different devices that you handpicked that are better for people with MCAs.

So people can find that, right? Yes. What else do we need to let people know? What any other tips and tricks for people with with massive activations syndrome and PMF? Anything else that's just important for people to know about this? Probably the most important problem that I see with PMF therapy and that creates frustration for people is the wrong machine. So and the worst way to make a decision about the equipment that you should get is based on price. You know, if you buy cheap you get a magnetic field therapy.

Unfortunately is not. Yeah right. The right magnetic system is great. May cost you quite a bit. But then you don't have to look back. And then I also tell people that when you get a PMF device, you don't own it. The house owns it, including the dog, the cat and the plants and your partner. If you allow your partner to get to use it too. So cost is a is a big factor that I want people to know that if you're going to get the right piece of equipment, you may have to be prepared to spend the money to get the right piece of equipment.

It's like sauna. You can get a $500 on an off on Amazon, but those saunas have flared people. They've made people really sick versus the type of sauna that we found to be really effective and helpful and low EMF and have the best infrared frequencies for these conditions. It's kind of similar with. And if you want to make sure that you're making a good investment, and it may be that you may need more than one machine. So an entry machine could end up being something like a flex pulse because battery operated portable, and it can run for up to 12 hours at a time.

It's got a rechargeable battery and it can help you with sleep. Need help with those nervous system things that we talked about? Because it has a single frequencies and you find that that works for you, but not enough. Take it early. If you have inflammation throughout your whole lot, it's not going to work that well because it's just a small coil like that. And if you need a bigger coil to cover a bigger area, but you're too, you may be too sensitive that that's a good, probably good starting point.

And you can always keep using it even after you do a whole bar. If you do a whole body, higher intensity magnetic therapy, you have to plug it into the wall. It requires current and the flex post does not. So again, you can have two, two tools to work for you. By having both lower intensity and high intensity local and hold on something that's portable and something you could lie down while you're doing your monitor down. Or you could sleep by sitting at a computer terminal. Hopefully you're hardwired and EMF shielded.

And I did want to ask you before we finish, we've had a lot of people who have joined our community with long Covid, and they developed mass activation syndrome along with Covid, and they're dealing with all the things with long Covid circulation issues, coagulation issues, fatigue and so on. Are you getting case reports of people having good results with PMS? For unfortunately, we don't see a lot of people with long Covid. I do have a blog on Doctor Polycom about long Covid long haulers. I can't call it long Covid because the FTC has already slapped my wrist.

Okay, we'll call it long haulers. We call it long haulers. Okay, so magnetic field therapy can deal with most of the problems

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that people have with long haulers syndrome. But again, sensitivity becomes an important part of that. So you still have to have a titrating what you need. Now, if you have local problems like a brain problem or a heart problem or, a clotting disorder, that PMA therapy can be extraordinarily helpful. But again, the key in long hauler syndrome is decreasing inflammation and decreasing the damage from not only the infection. There's a misconception that lung problems from Covid are caused by the infection.

They're not. They're caused by the inflammation, which is what the cytokine storm is. That's what a cytokine storm is. That's right. Exactly correct. So again, with long haulers, most of the time the focus is going to be on improving cellular function or physiologic function. And helping to decrease inflammation. And then you can use all the other things that you do for inflammation as well. And you should magnetic field therapy is not a soul therapy. You can't heal a cell if it's nutrient deficient.

So it doesn't have the right nutrients. You can't make it heal itself because it can't heal. It doesn't have the tools to heal itself. The resource. So combining all the other therapies that you do that you recommend to people, plus magnetic field therapy, the first, the basis is what you're doing, the next level up that is adding that other form of stimulation and activation of everything else and the ability to enhance repair. And that's going to increase our or improve or recovery times is going to shorten our recovery time is going to enhance our long term and our function, our ability to function.

Wonderful. Well, I just want to thank you so much for your time and also for the work that you put out in the world. It's incredible the amount of research that you have, come through that you have published, that you have put together for people. And I think of you as, one of the primary people who are responsible for PMF being accessible and there being an entry point for laypeople into this and being more understand it. So thank you so much for your work. You're very welcome. Thank you for the recognition.

But but knowing about PMF therapy is not good enough. If you don't own it, you don't get the benefit. Right? So that would be the encouraging. The other thing I would encourage you to do know as much as you want to know about it, but you're going to have to eventually invest in the right. So check out the Summit Resources page MSL three 60.com/summit. You will find link to Doctor Pollack's book. You will find the comparison sheet for the PMF. Devices that are best tolerated in Skaggs and his, website.

Tell them your website, because it's a just huge wealth of of resources for people. A lot, a huge amount. Yes. It's doctor Dr. Pollack, you look at Doctor pollack.com.