Why Glutathione Is Your Menopause Ally

Nayan Patel, PharmD

It’s my pleasure to be here today. Thank you.

Sharon Stills, ND

That really is how we met. 

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes. 

Sharon Stills, ND

 I am, let’s just, I guess just tell a little bit, because you own a pharmacy, you’re a pharmacist, 

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yup. 

Sharon Stills, ND

You’re writing books. I’m like, are you cloned? How do you do all this? You’re just how did you get into this and how did you become, Why a pharmacist? Why natural medicine and so on and so forth.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Wow. By gosh, that’s the first question, I was asked this question before. After graduating from USC School of Pharmacy at 26, oh my gosh, 27 years ago, I decided to become a company pharmacist. That’s what my journey started as a compounding pharmacist, tried to mix some medications. There was a big need back then. Women’s hormones, the thing that’s accessible today, keep in mind, 1999, there were literally, I’m from California, there were literally only 12 compounding pharmacy in the whole state of California. Myself and my family had two of them. We came back from there where there was nobody doing compounding. It was something that nobody even talked about it. 

It was easy because you make a few medications that, all this free time that you can think and do some research. It was a great thing back then because being a compounding pharmacist, you have access to all this information, have access to a lab. Where you can do research. For the last 20 some odd years that I’ve been working as a pharmacist, my passion has always been, can I make something unique and different for my, I’m mostly looking for solutions for a patient and sometimes a simple solution that is not patented. Sometimes there are solutions like glutathione, which is a patented process. We have done both ways and all, at the end of the day. We’re just here to make sure my patients are happy with the treatment and they can live a fulfilled life. That’s what we’re here for.

Sharon Stills, ND

Mm. I love that. Glutathione, first of all, like what is glutathione 101. Just give us the rundown for maybe someone’s listening who’s never heard of glutathione or just knows it’s an antioxidant. But what would you like to tell us about what glutathione is, why it’s so important? You wrote a whole book on it.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I know. I’ll tell you why I wrote the book. Because it was something to just shut my family up. They have too many questions. But, in simple terms, our body makes so much different peptides. We eat protein, the body breaks other protein and collects all this amino acids. That’s what we eat proteins for. Amino acids are the building blocks for our body to make different types of peptides. The most abundant peptide body producers is glutathione. It’s the most abundant. It’s a very simple. It’s three amino acid. It’s a tripeptide, the the simplest form of a peptide that the body produces because two is not a peptide, three becomes a peptide. The simplest form is glutathione, and it has produced so much of it because it has so much, so many varieties of function it is involved in cleaning your body, detoxify your body both from chemical as well as electronic charges from the level sources. It neutralizes everything that we are exposed to on a daily basis, internally as well as externally. So without glutathione, I don’t think you’ll survive. Without water, maybe couple of days without glutathione, I mean, your body’s even going to get all junky and clogged up completely from inside. Then once it’s clogged up, there’s no way we can clean it up again correctly. I also have a visual picture in my mind imagine something back it up in your house, something really foul smell and something really not good. Imagine that, that there’s no way to clean it up.

Sharon Stills, ND

Mm hmm.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

You had a better the burn in the house and go to another house, or do you plan to clear. I only have this one body. I can’t abandon his body. I got to get a way to clean this up. So that’s what glutathione does for us. In a simple term, of course, this is a lot more complex things we can talk about, but in simple terms, it just keeps your body fully functional by making sure that all debris, chemicals, electronic charges, and everything that your body is exposed to gets neutralized, gets gets liberated from the body.

Sharon Stills, ND

Do you find that most people don’t make enough glutathione? What’s the problem of glutathione? Why do we need to often take it in as a supplement?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

That’s a great question, because the body doesn’t really need glutathione. The answer is no. You don’t need glutathione, and everybody does not need glutathione. Your body is able to produce enough glutathione up until the age of about, I don’t know, 30; it’s just an arbitrary number. It could have been longer before, but with the modern conveniences that we are exposed to, we can’t get rid of things that we want that are good for us. So with modern-day lifestyles, I think the time it takes for a body to neutralize all the chemicals and electric charges it is exposed to and the body’s ability to produce glutathione surpasses around the age of 30, as what I see it. At the age of 30, the body cannot produce enough glutathione to neutralize everything that we are exposed to on a daily basis. So I see a need to improve levels around the age of 30. Now, would you be doing the same thing at the age of 20 without supplementation? Absolutely. From the day you’re born, we eat the right types of fruits and vegetables, making sure that we eat proteins and enough cysteine in our diet to make sure that it is used to produce enough glutathione. So we do that every day. But then something happens after we graduate from college. We stop. We change our behavior. We become more adventurous, and so our need somehow increases as we age. It never goes down. It somehow stays the same or increases. But your body’s ability to produce glutathione always decreases. It never increases as we age. It’s almost a disconnect. The slight discount is okay when after this kind of thing happens and the toxins are a lot more to the body’s ability. This thing starts getting bigger and bigger and wider, and the wider it gets, the more it starts causing the onset of all kinds of diseases. That’s what we’re talking about; is that what’s causing the harm? The harm is that if the bodies are clean enough, that gets the onset off. It could be a mild blood pressure issue, a mild illness, or resistance, not diabetes. This is resistance. I can approximate sugar as I’m gaining weight a little bit. I’m having foggy thinking and a decrease in memory. You see a lot of my female patients, especially in the perimenopausal period. They have this memory issue. They can sleep better because they don’t have energy. They cannot clean the body enough. They’re gaining a little bit of weight here and there. I mean, everything is slowly creeping up. Of course, we want to do hormone optimization. We want to do nutrition, diet, and exercise. You do all kinds of things. Glutathione is just one part of the whole solution. It’s just one part of the whole thing.

Sharon Stills, ND

I was just going to say so. So you said, glutathione is three amino acids and so could you just share what those amino acids are and I’m sure like then the next question in some women’s mind would be, well, can I just take those amino acids?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Absolutely.  So the three are glutamic acid, glycine, and cysteine. The hardest one to get in your diet is cysteine. As long as you have enough cysteine in your diet, your body is able to produce glutathione. The cysteine could be a whey protein milk substitute. A lot of my patients don’t like milk products because they all have allergies to milk products. If that’s the case, you can have avocados, and a lot of seafood has cysteine in there. Getting to your diet is probably the most crucial part. The rest of the two amino acids is abundantly found in your diet, so there’s no point in supplementation. Sometimes glycine is also a concern. In very rare cases, some patients are not able to absorb glycine, but other than that, cysteine is the most important one. But then keep in mind that three amino acids are not enough. You need two enzymes to put these two together. Those two enzymes—if you have, like today in 2023, guess what? We can measure your gene mutations. If somebody if you have a gene mutation and that you’re going to have this enzyme, guess what? You can make your own glutathione. For those kids, sometimes we see it as a spectrum disorder. If you cannot produce enough of it, you have autism on one spectrum of Aspergers; on the other spectrum, I mean, you have a spectrum disorder; and somebody somewhere in between someplace. That’s because the body’s detoxification is drastically reduced. It’s not just having amino acids; it’s also making sure that enzymes are also there in your diet to make sure that you can make glutathione.

Sharon Stills, ND

Okay. I’ve got a couple of questions. First, I just want to go back. You said cysteine, so could you explain if that means an N-Acetylcysteine or, because NAC is very popular these days, is it the same thing?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

N-Acetylcysteine is basically a stable form that you can take in pill form. That’s why NAC is so popular, because cysteine by itself is very unstable. But when you combine it with the acid-r group of cysteines, it becomes stable, which you can do; it’s just a powder form; you buy it in a capsule; you can just drink it and swallow it; it’s easy. 

And by the way, that is the only product that has ever been approved by the FDA to improve glutathione levels. So, if you think that amino acids are not so good, guess what? NAC is actually FDA-approved. The only product probably approved by the FDA to improve glutathione levels. 

They have not approved glutathione itself to improve glutathione levels, but they have approved NAC to improve glutathione levels. 

Sharon Stills, ND

But will NAC work in everyone, or do some people have the mutations where NAC won’t actually produce glutathione?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Exactly. The mutation that the people had was a gene mutation in a very small number of population. The vast majority, 90 plus percent of the patients, if they take the ADCs, the body will use that cysteine to make its own glutathione. That is the best thing you can do early on to make sure that you keep on supplementing that down. But you can get the cysteine from a diet, too. I personally, as a pharmacist, I make my living selling pills. But I’ll tell you that personally myself, I would rather eat fruits and vegetables every single day that contain all these nutrients to supplement my own body. If you read my book, it’s a 14-day diet plan. Yes, that’s my lifelong diet plan. That’s my 14-day diet plan. What I say inside is what I do every single day.

Sharon Stills, ND

So all right. I have too many questions going through my brain. Okay, so the diet plan, because I was going to say, So the women listening, we want to start including cysteine in our diet. You said I’m not a fan of dairy products, so I’m not going to say to take dairy products. But you said avocados, seafood, and so many other foods.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I mean, if you just bring a famous search engine that assists in rich foods, it can even get by the hierarchy as to which has the highest amount of choice and which has the lowest amount. I propose that you consume avocado every day. I just love the taste of avocados. I have fresh avocados every single day. I then grew up in California, where we have access to fresh organic avocados every single day of the year. we’re blessed.

Sharon Stills, ND

You’re eating the foods with cysteine. You’re living the book. You’re getting the diet down pat. Then you’re also taking N-acetylcysteine; are you recommending that everyone should take that? If so, how many, like, is it 500 milligrams a day?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

That’s about five to six to 10 milligrams a day, which should be enough to produce that glutathione for your body. But keep in mind that by taking cysteine, you’re limiting your body’s ability to produce glutathione as you age. Even the enzymes start getting lower too. So when you’re 30, not everything is going to work just great for you. You can dig whatever is going to produce enough for you. But as you start aging, the enzymes also start decreasing, so you can pick up all the cysteine you want in the world. But if you don’t have enough enzymes, you can’t produce enough glutathione..

Sharon Stills, ND

Okay, so that’s why you have a glutathione product, because I’m like, okay, there has to be a reason. the enzyme. For us, perimenopausal and postmenopausal ladies, taking zero cysteine is not going to do it because our enzymes are not working as well. Let’s talk about things like glutathione and the hormonal connection. What would glutathione have to do with hormones?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Glutathione does two different things for us. One, it neutralizes all the free radicals that, either by chemical reactions within your body or it can be because of a number of sources like sunlight, give us a lot of free radicals. Those are electronic charges that get neutralized. That is why it is referred to as an antioxidant. The second function of glutathione is that it conjugates with the different metabolites and helps clean the liver out by getting rid of metabolites. Now, I myself, as a male patient, I take some testosterone. We do need some. All my female patients take estrogen, progesterone, and DHEA hormones, as well as all of the other hormones that pass through the liver and are metabolized. That’s how we get it; get rid of it from your body. Those metabolites—some are good and some are toxic—

We do measure those metabolites in the urine to see what the toxicity levels are. If that’s too much, then we give them some products to help get rid of it. Our body naturally produces glutathione to conjugate with those metabolites and get rid of it. Having enough glutathione in your body and in your liver is going to make sure that whatever hormone therapy you’re doing is actually useful and correct because of all the hormones they will have to make you take every single day. They have to be broken down and gotten rid of. The getting rid of it part, is done by glutathione. So making sure the levels are optimal is crucial. I do have patients that do take pellets, and even though we don’t like pellets, guess what? It produces a lot of toxic metabolites. Those have to be neutralized. I cannot stop them from taking pellets, but I can help them by neutralizing the liver and getting rid of all the junk out of there.

Sharon Stills, ND

Send them to see Dr. Stills, and I will make them stop those pellets. 

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Exactly. Trust me. I can do that, too, but. All right.

Sharon Stills, ND

You mentioned. What about testing? Because I think testing is controversial. As a physician, I’ve learned different ways to test, and sometimes, well, that’s not really that accurate, or check it in an organic acid, or what do you think as the glutathione king.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Okay.

Sharon Stills, ND

How should like the people listening, the women listening, how should they ask their physicians to have their glutathione levels checked?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Sure. But I’m not the king, just to let you know. 

Sharon Stills, ND

You’re my glutathione king. 

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I’m just the glutathione guy. I’m the district guy, okay?

Sharon Stills, ND

Okay, that’s practical. It’s a good science guy.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

There you go.

Sharon Stills, ND

I can calll you, the king.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

You know what? The glutathione has been out for, what, over 120 plus years? The thing is, we don’t know much about it because there has never been a way to improve glutathione levels intracellularly to the highest amount. All these years after it only approved N-Acetylcysteine to improve its glutathione levels, and the glutathione levels are actually measured in the blood and within the blood. It’s preferred to measured into the RBC levels with the red blood cell levels because whatever is in the red blood cells has a longer life than what is in the plasma. If your blood has to be composed of the red part, which is the blood cells, and the water part, which is the plasma, then when you inject glutathione via IV therapy, guess what? It only ends up in the plasma, or it never, ever enters the blood cell. So because of that, the plasma gets filtered out by the kidneys every 15 minutes. In reality, in 14.1 minutes, all the glutathione will be out of your bloodstream. So you will want to measure the glutathione level in the red blood cells, but traditionally nobody measures it because, why? Glutathione is very unstable. As soon as you draw the blood out, by the time it goes from your office to the lab company to be tested, it is already being oxidized..

Sharon Stills, ND

Can you check like from red blood cell glutathione to a Lab Corp  or a Quest.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I think you can. But what you’re really measuring is just the oxidized form of glutathione without actually having a lab that does this all the time. We work with specialty labs; that’s what they do. So they do measure this all the time in the labs, but they’re still measuring the oxygen form of glutathione. I do my research at the university. We draw the blood from the machine right there and then. We get the data immediately. In the real world, it’s not just possible.

Sharon Stills, ND

Gotcha. Okay, for the women listening, is there, what would you recommend if they want to know their glutathione levels.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

If they want to know their glutathione level, first of all, I’ve done thousands and thousands of tests as of today. I have never found a single person who is medium, normal, or higher. Everyone is either low-normal or below-normal; every one of them. In the thousands of cases I’ve done, including my whole family. Nobody has glutathione levels that are that high. Plus, keep in mind that I’m only testing people who are 40 and above. So all those patients have low glutathione levels to begin with. But you can measure the glutathione levels in the blood and see what the levels are. They range from 500 to 1000 or 1100 micromoles per liter. What I have found in all my studies is that it was in the 4 to 5 fifties, which is what everybody is if you’re younger.

Sharon Stills, ND

Typically, for all of us, including myself, we should just go on the assumption that our glutathione levels are low and we need to be addressing that. That’s kind of like, I always laugh. when patients say, How long do I have to be on this for Dr. Stills?  I’m like, for life. As long as you’re alive. It sounds like glutathione kind of falls into that category for cleaning up the body, detoxing, supporting your liver when you’re on hormones, and so forth. So now I want to go back because you said something that, to me, is very disturbing: that when you take glutathione via IV, it doesn’t penetrate the blood cells. So why is that? Why is it not penetrating?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I have to think that because the particle size is too large. The molecule is too big and never enters the blood cells. But the thing is, that is not discouraging that much, because even though the study did not show that the blood absorbed the glutathione, what it did show was that glutathione was broken down into amino acids, and they did absorb cysteine back into the bloodstream. So a day later, they saw a spike in the glutathione level. Not because of glutathione but because cysteine was used to make glutathione again.

Sharon Stills, ND

So now let’s talk about this, because this is how I met you—spraying glutathione on me because I want to really understand this too. Why is it that when you spray it and it’s going on to the skin, why is that better and more utilized? If you could just explain your research and your science in the next 5 minutes, Please.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I wish I had an easier way to take this glutathione than to spray it on your body and make it all sticky on you. But that’s just unfortunate. The technology that we have—this was 14 years ago—is a glutathione molecule that is literally compressed into small balls. That way, it becomes really compact. Then, when you really make it compact, it gets on your skin pretty easily. If it goes into your mouth, it gets destroyed by the stomach lining. So the reality is that to keep it intact, it has to go through your skin. That’s  technology. It was so far ahead of any of my research out there. It took me 12 years just to do research on what it does, how much to give, how often to give, and what kind of outcomes I’m going to have. So I could not even release a product to the open public until I had done all the work ahead on my own beforehand.

Hence, I wrote the book, because all the findings I had, I keep telling my family at every gathering, This is our work. It is. We’re working on it because. What is it? What is it? I said, Okay, guys, what? I stopped going to all family gatherings. I wrote the book. I told the family, Now you’re going to support me by buying my book and reading up on this book.  That way, you’ll know what glutathione is and what it does. What kind of outcomes you have. But it’s just unfortunate that the glutathione that we have is actually something that only happens to go through your skin, which is a good and bad thing. But the good thing is that now we know that it can help improve glutathione immediately upon contact. The bad thing is that it is a little sticky, as you can feel it getting stickier. Everything goes away. The smell goes away, and the stimulus goes away. But it does work, and it will improve glutathione levels on demand within a few minutes. It can literally take a particular time to do a blood test within 15 minutes and see a rise in the glutathione levels in your blood.

Sharon Stills, ND

Maybe I missed it, but why? It’s because. Why is it absorbing into the cell when the IV isn’t? Because we’re all taught. I mean, I was taught as a doctor that the gold standard is to do something via IV. It’s the best absorbed.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

It is best absorbed into the bloodstream, but it does not enter the cells. Because it does not enter the cells, it has to be binding to the cell receptors to do that part. When you use glutathione, the sticky part is very sticky. The sticky part is actually binding to one of the receptors on your cell, which is called the Ace2 receptor. It binds itself to that one. From there, it just sucks it into your cells. We did publish a clinical trial on that one. We just got published just about a month ago, on May 1st. It was published in one of the journals and talks about the science of how it actually gets into the bloodstream, into the blood, and into the cells using those Ace2 receptors. For that to happen, the particle size has to be extremely small, which the IVs is not there. I mean, it’s a full molecule.

Sharon Stills, ND

So would you say like it’s not worth it to get a glutathione IV?  

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Oh my goodness.

Sharon Stills, ND

Am I changing my practice. Like, Am I never giving IV with glutathione IV again?.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

It is safe for IVs. There’s always a need to be there for IVs because if you can give a high dose, glutathione or a very high dose, you can. I’ll give a topical version because everything is absorbed immediately with the IVs. Now that we know that, let me get absorbed over the next 50 minutes, and the rest is you producing more cysteine. Cysteine is being used up for the next couple of days to make glutathione. In that sense, it’s still okay to give IVs because they have a sustained effect from them. But if that’s true, you can just give any CIV and get the same results. It’s probably cheaper to be cheaper.

Sharon Stills, ND

Yes. Yes. It’s so interesting because you learn these things, and I mean, I’ve been doing good final IVs for over two decades. So it’s like, You just really, got to open your mind because medicine is constantly changing.  I go, Well, I’m going to give someone an IV. and not give them glutathione. That’s weird, but I really like, I love your, what you’re doing and how like and I don’t know, it was sticky at first, but I don’t know now. I kind of like it; it’s like a comfortable feeling. It’s like, Oh, here comes my stickiness. I know I’m giving my liver some love. It doesn’t surprise my patients who didn’t and couldn’t handle the stickiness. But for the most part, everyone seems to do fine with it.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Because you just rub it in till completely dry. It’ll dry up completely within a couple of minutes.  that’s not a big deal. My wife is using to her eyes and on her face.

Sharon Stills, ND

I was going to ask you about that.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes, because guess what? The face feels so smooth. It really makes your skin feel really, really smooth after rubbing on for a couple of minutes and dries up makes it really smooth and it also evens out your skin tone. So she says she’s everyday at nighttime before she goes to sleep on a face.

Sharon Stills, ND

Does it help with, like, wrinkles?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes, we did a study on wrinkle management and skin tone, and we saw almost 90% plus this were all women did they tried it. They saw a considerable reduction in the wrinkles.

Sharon Stills, ND

All right. I have nothing put it on my face, but I’m the ones that starting this evening, I always just put it like here, here, sometime I put it on my thigh. But so like a bedtime routine is to just put it all over your face. I love that.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

But Yes, it does work. It works upon whether you apply it as well as internally. So you get two, 

Sharon Stills, ND

Getting like two for one. Yes. Oh, my gosh, I’ve been missing out. So what about as I’m saying that?  I’m like, all right, I’m just going to bathe myself in your glutathione spray. But like, can you get too much glutathione? Is there any–.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes. So that’s part of my next two research projects that I’m doing right now because your body needs to always be a little stressed because if there’s not enough stress, your body might become lazy. So too much is not good for you either, because your body needs to be under oxidative stress because that part is always trying to make your body stronger, better, and faster. When the body is in a reductive state, it becomes lazier. That’s not a good sign. Hence, I had to find out how much to give you. That was my first 20 years of research because I needed to find out what dose I could give you. How much to give you to make sure that your body does not overcompensate by producing it, but by having way too much glutathione in your body, because that’s not a good sign either. So we figured out we had tried anyway from two sprays, four sprays, up to 30 sprays in a day to see what dose came out better, and what we found out is that for sprays, which is about 2.5 mls of liquid twice a day, it gives you the best blood levels without getting to outside the range.

Sharon Stills, ND

What is that in milligrams.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

It’s about a hundred milligrams.

Sharon Stills, ND

A hundred milligrams. 

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes. Twice a day.

Sharon Stills, ND

100 milligrams twice a day or it’s 100 milligrams.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Twice a day. If we compare that to any of the forms, like I have doctors I give I.V. therapy with, which is thousand milligrams. I’m telling you, you can do thousand milligrams with topical because it is too powerful because that enters to the blood cells so you cannot give too much. You have to be under 100, about a hundred, 250 milligrams maximum per day.

Sharon Stills, ND

I know you’re saying, you want to keep the body functioning and not too lazy and there is healthy stress. I get that. If you were doing too much, would you see physical side effects as well?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I have not. The only side effect that I have seen is that when you get too much glutathione, initially, your body will start having a Herxheimer reaction. Like you have a little itchy liquid rash. This tells me that you’re detoxing too fast. So cut back. Cut back and go a little bit lower because it’s too much for your body to handle at this point.

Sharon Stills, ND

Okay.  For the liver, there are just so many supplements out there. This is good. That sounds good. Just like there’s milk thistle. Does glutathione kind of cover it all, or do you like to do glutathione with some milk thistle and some cofactors for phase two? What are your thoughts on that? I’m just curious.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

I have all this glutathione, and keep in mind that I only work with physicians like you. When I work with physicians, I have access to all the lab work. We tell the doctors, Hey, why don’t you give this product for about two months and do it before and after lab work? Initially, what we’ll see is that the ALT and AST levels will start dropping. That means that the blood flow markers for the liver enzymes are dropping. That is not the solution. That is just a temporary thing; the information has gone down. The real effects are seen three or four months down the road, once inflammation is down and the liver cells function better. So anybody can bring the ALT and AST levels down with any product, but that’s not the full solution. Your body produces enough glutathione to do that part, by all means. When you do it, do glutathione by itself with no other product. We don’t use telomerase, milk thistle, or anything else. We don’t use anything. Just glutathione by itself. ALT and AST: Those will be in a drawing back to normal mode that just tells you the information is down now. Now the healing begins, and after another three months or so, the healing is done. Then they start seeing just the optimal function of the body.

Sharon Stills, ND

Patients will start to notice physical improvements where they what are some of those other than that?  I’m excited for that. I’m going to try that.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

It’s the physical; it’s what you see on the face, and your body is one thing. But internally, when the information is down, I’ve seen patients apply on the knees, and within one or two applications, the knee pain is gone. I have seen people apply for fatigue, and the fatigue has gone away in like two weeks or so. There are a few people who have brain fog. I’m not sure that, because of COVID and the vaccines, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I can’t say a bad word about that part. But I do know that a lot of people have brain fog. Is it just mental fatigue, or What’s going on? I don’t know. The glutathione is actually improving. The brain fog for those people is symptomatic relief. It’s not a cure-all for anything, but what’s happening is that the inflammation is coming down, and the body, with the body, finishes coming down. It also creates brain fog. The terrible thing is better now, and I want to stop it. It comes back, by the way. It’s not like it’s getting rid of it. It’s just that you feel much better, so you can function better every day.

Sharon Stills, ND

It is kind of like what I said. It’s one of those things where, because of what we’re experiencing outwardly, we need to take it long-term to deal with the effects of the toxins in our lives. If there are any, I mean, I don’t think there are, but are there any, like, contraindications where you should not take glutathione?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Not that I know of. There are no drugs or drug interactions with glutathione, so anybody can take this product with any medications they’re on. diseases and glutathione interactions. The only thing that people have been cautioned is an oncologist. I have cautioned people, obviously, about antioxidants because chemotherapy is pro-oxidant. In order for their drugs to work and kill all the cells—the good, bad, and ugly cells—they want glutathione to be lower. So that’s the only downside to that part. But we do have a lot of integrative oncologists who have been prescribing glutathione for all the patients because they see the benefit of making sure that all the other cells that are healthier stay healthy and only affect the cancer cells with the chemotherapy.

Sharon Stills, ND

Although I’ve always been doing it for my patients dealing cancer IV, now I’m like, Oh no, we got to spray it topically.

Nayan Patel, PharmD

By the way, Compared to Ivy and topical, in the theory, guess what? If you put glutathione in the cancer cells, it only hijacks, the glutathione that’s produced by the mitochondria. If you do that from outside sources, it is actually penetrating inside the blood cells. The mitochondrial glutathione is not being produced because there’s not enough glutathione outside the cell. So in theory, it could literally starve the cancer cells. Again, this is all theory. Yes, I’m not a theorist; again, it’s just this mix. I’ll just try to make the point that this could be an issue. But again, because there’s so much research, and I’m sure that they’re doing some research on this product,

Sharon Stills, ND

Is there anything else I didn’t ask you about, from glutathione, that you want to share, or just a quick recap of what you want to leave the listeners with as far as the glutathione?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

So let me just tell you a couple of things that I have felt over the last 14 years, because when I first discovered glutathione 14 years ago, I was not too excited. I said, Well, what the heck would be the deal. I’m a pharmacist. I create a product in my lab. Two years later, I saw my first benefit. I had one of my employees get burned at a job. We applied the glutathione, and the pain was gone literally instantaneously. That’s the day I realized, Oh my God, this thing is really good topically. Until now, I had no idea. That was the first time I realized this was used topically. My dad had a stent put in his heart ten years ago. After the stain was put in, the doctor gave him a whole slew of medications that he has to take every single day. My dad didn’t want to take the medication, so he dumped it. Since that day, he has been using glutathione. Because I had it, I had no idea. I still had to raise the issue of the general public. He was my patient number one. Today, he’s 87 years old. This year, 2023. He is 87 years old today. He is free of type 2 diabetes. He has no blood pressure. He is free of arthritis. At the age of 84, he had a double knee replacement—both the knees—because he had had arthritis for 40 plus years. The knees were labor deformities.

Of course he was affecting his, but he had no pain. It was just that his walk was not perfect. Because deformed knees weren’t that perfect. It was hurting his back because of that. I said, Dad, why did you get a knee replacement done? I said, Okay, let’s do both of them. Then the doctor goes to him, and he was at the same time at the age of 84. Oh, my God. He did what they did not think he was going to make it for for at least six more months—six to seven months for recovery. Three and a half months later, he was in India, traveling after the surgery. So what I’m telling you in the story is that, for one reason, age is just a number. You can literally reverse your body back to youthful vitality, anti-fatigue, and enjoyment of life at any age. If my dad can live to the age of 87, I sure could live to the age of 50. So I want to give this hope to all the patients out there that science is advancing so fast. I’m glad that you are promoting these education seminars because, with them, we can reach the world and let people know that we can help them at any age. With that, I hope I’ll live forever.

Sharon Stills, ND

Yes, yes, yes. Glutathione will help us.  If listeners want to learn more, do you have a website if they want to get your book?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

Yes. We do have my website, aurowellness.com, and a u r o wellness.com. If we do have the book on Amazon and your favorite bookstores have this book, Kindle has it audible if you do not. People don’t like to read, so they want to listen to it. So you have access to all those things, and we mentioned Dr. Still’s name when you do purchase the power to try it because we do want to make sure that we give credit where credit is due.

Sharon Stills, ND

Well, I’m just so glad that our paths crossed and that you came on here and really broke down glutathione for us. I think everyone is listening, and it’s hard to say, but there are a few things there. There are a number. But where I can just kind of, in good conscience, say that everyone listening can benefit from this, In my practice, I’m working to get every patient on this product. I take it myself, so I’m actually asking one more quick question. It’s not really menopause, but can I, like, give it to my grandbabies? Like, is there an age test that you administer? Do they need it at that young age, or do you wait for them?

Nayan Patel, PharmD

They don’t need them. But if they have a problem, it is an acute problem. During the COVID times, I had so many moms with one-month-old babies because they could not stand the fact that they were having respiratory failures, and it can bring the inflammation down. It didn’t cure COVID it all, by any means. But it brings inflammation down, so they can breathe better. They survive.  Usually, they will use it on one-month-old babies.

Sharon Stills, ND

Just in acute cases. Okay, I’m just curious. All right. Well, I kind of went off track there, but menopause summit. Thank you so much. I’ve learned so much from you. This is why medicine is the art and practice of medicine: because I’m constantly learning and growing. Like you said, the science changes, and we have to change with the science to do what’s best for ourselves. I appreciate you being here and educating us, including me. I have a new bedtime routine now. For now, on the face, because I always tell patients, you can put some of the Estriol. It’s good on your face. So now you can do the Estriol and glutathione combo nation. All right, great. So that was aurowellness.com. Please check out Dr. Patel; as you can see, he’s brilliant, and go learn from him at his website. We’ll be back with another episode of our summit, and I thank you all for being here.