Healing Bipolar and MS Through Radical Clarity with Emily Penton

Episode Introduction and Emilyu2019s Story 0:00

This episode contains discussions of suicide and suicidal thoughts. Please take care while listening. What happens when the body breaks down and the mind spirals? And the only way out is to rewrite everything you've been taught about healing. Emily Penton joins us to share her powerful journey of reversing bipolar disorder and multiple sclerosis using a meat-based diet, nervous system regulation and radical self-honesty. In this conversation, we go deep into the emotional roots of chronic illness, the myth of willpower, and why clarity is the most ancestral tool of all.

If you've ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or like your mind and body are at war, this one's for you. Welcome to Everyday Ancestral. I am your host, James Berry. Please enjoy Emily Penn. You overcame both bipolar disorder and MS, right? Yeah. Multiple sclerosis using nutrition and mindset. That's kind of unheard of. So what was the moment that you realized the path your doctors laid out wouldn't work for you? Yeah, I mean I tried the normal route with a psychiatrist, with cocktail of medications, therapy, all different modalities and I still wasn't functioning.

I say that the medication did work because it kept me out of the psych ward and it cut me from taking my own life. So it worked, but I wasn't functioning. And so it wasn' until I got to the bottom of the barrel where I just, I had nowhere else to go, that whenever I was shown this example of Amber O'Hern, that she had resolved her bipolar disorder symptoms 10 years previously, I was just like I'll try anything. And so I wasn't going against what my doctors were saying. I continued taking my psych meds and my modalities and everything.

I did it in addition to. And then whenever I experienced relief and I experience clarity and experience thinking about the future in a positive way,

Bipolar Diagnosis and Rock Bottom 2:29

I was just like, okay, there's something here. And then the multiple sclerosis snuck in, which I know that the way that I was eating didn't cause the Multiple Scleroses, it just peeled back the curtain and revealed it. And so that was me going against the doctors because I just did kind of a common study and I realized that the deteriorated myelin sheath on my nerves that was multiple sclerosis is made out of fat. And so I was like, I just need to keep eating fat and also that it was inflammation.

So I'm already on the right track to have less inflammation by not eating Doritos and ramen noodles and donuts and eating fatty animal meat. It was a gamble that paid off for me. Yeah, I guess we should probably even take a step back further so people understand like what was life like. So maybe share a bit about when you first started feeling bipolar, what you were eating, What you think led up to it and what that state was like? Yeah I don't think I ever felt normal, you know, I mean I would always have just very extreme emotions even like as a child and then definitely it was exacerbated in adolescence with all the hormones and everything.

And then my 20s. How did it show up though emotionally when in your adolescences when you were first getting more hormonal, Everything was just catastrophized in my mind. And it wasn't that my circumstances were a problem. It was the lens with which I saw my circumstance through. Like somebody would say something and I would be like, oh my gosh, this person hates me. This is the end of my life. I just would catastrophize things in mind and felt very alone. I felt like even when I did speak my truth, I would get these looks from people that were like, what?

So I learned to just not share. I learn to not to share who I am. And then in my 20s, it looked like risky behavior, impulsivity, lots of firing from different jobs, failed marriages. broken relationships with friends and family members. It was just this literal like tornado path of just destruction that was the life of Emily. And you were also pretty heavy then as well. I mean, cause you're not at all now. So I think sharing that contrast is important as. Yeah, yeah. At my highest, I was about 260 pounds.

And now I'm about 140. My lowest that I got to with this way of eating was 130. You lost like 120, 130 pounds? Yeah, yeah, and pretty fast, like within the first year. But I recognize that a lot of it was inflammation. Like I look back at pictures and I can just see the inflammation in my body. And I didn't want to lose weight. I don't think there was anything wrong with my buddy. That's what everybody in Southeast Missouri looks like. You know, I did think anything. So I wasn't trying to loose weight, it side effect whenever I could bend over and tie my shoes without taking a break, you know, because I just thought that's the way everybody was, in their 30s, 40s.

Well, yeah, not having the people we surround ourselves with, the mirrors, right? If you don't have contrast, That's your norm. So you were in your 20s and you weren't necessarily diagnosed bipolar at that point. When did you actually get that label or when did YOU learn that? Ironically, I got diagnosed when I was in grad school getting my master's in clinical counseling. So here I am studying psychology so that I can help others and I found out about myself. And I put the pieces of the puzzle together.

I talked to a colleague and said, what do you think about this? And she was like, yes, this is textbook. Went to my psychiatrist and just gave him the checklist and it was, I'm experiencing this, and this. What do think it is? The psychiatrist was that's textbook bipolar disorder. That's when I started the meds. When you talk about rock bottom, things got pretty bad, right? Can you share a little bit about that? Yeah, so my bipolar disorder went into rapid cycling in the fall of 2018. And so bipolar disorders goes into mania, and then it goes in to depression.

Discovering Carnivore and Lion Diet 7:53

Sometimes you get a year in between, sometimes you a month in-between. I didn't know who I was from one day to the next. It was like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And it became unethical for me to practice as a therapist because before I would knock it out of the park three, four days a week and I was fine. This turned into, I'd do my morning sessions and then by 11 o'clock I had to go home and be under the covers in bed because my anxiety was through the roof. And so then I had to quit working and I moved in with my mom at the age of 40. And then it was February of 2019 that I found the carnivore diet.

I went overnight from ramen noodles and takis and donuts and beer and wine and all the things and pizza and ice cream to ribeyes, chicken wings, fatty pork butt, bacon, breakfast sausage, all the fatty meat. And did you go straight carnivore, like, or were you still doing, um, Like, were, you doing dairy as well? Cause I know some most carnival do dairy. I personally, I didn't do dairy and I did do eggs and noticed that I was reacting to butter even. And I found out later that MS patients, they react to the casein in butter.

They even react the trace amounts of caseins in ghee. And I was even reacting to the ghee. And so everything was beef tallow. Within eight to 10 months, I really fine-tuned it and found out that beef was the only thing that I did not have a reaction to. So I went straight lion diet within 10 month. And that was mostly through process of an elimination, right? So you started pulling things out, you pulled out all the processed foods, mostly went meat base or carnivore, but then notice, oh, some of these other things were still doing that, and then went full lion.

Yeah, yeah. Wow. Absolutely. Because I was on food stamps, so I getting the meat right out of the grocery store. And so, I, was getting chicken with all the hormones in it. So, that whenever I would eat chicken, I'd get emotional and I get irritable. So I just stopped eating the chicken and found that when I ate the beef, even though it was grocery store beef I was feeling better mentally, physically, emotionally. It's fascinating, I mean, when your system is so sensitive to things, you really can gauge those subtle like, oh, chicken versus beef versus fish or whatever it is.

I don't think most people ever notice those things because to a degree, most are not eating mindfully, they're not really in their bodies while they are eating, it's like a lifestyle or a way of feeling. But it sounds like you had to be very mindful because it was really like you're kinda on the edge, right? It's like, if you go off, you really go of. I could go to the psych ward, yeah. Like it wasn't like Emily, like I think that other people who are neuro-typical, they think, Yeah, I've had bad days too.

No, my bad day could be like me selling everything I own and moving to another state. Or my bad day could be me, like I said, wanting to take my own life, or these extremes. And so I couldn't just go and be like, oh, well, I'm having a cheat day, so i'm going to have a piece of cake. That could end up with me in the psych ward. And so I had to stay very safe in that transition. And then it was, like you said, a really great experiment because then I was able to fine tune, what am I feeling best on?

And who doesn't wanna feel best? Who doesn' wanna to feel better? Yeah, seriously. So how long did you do that lion or how have you been doing that Lion diet? I'm still pretty much lying. I did add eggs in about, oh gosh, probably like six or seven months ago. And at first, the only reason I didn't add the eggs and is because they made me fart. and I don't enjoy farting. Like I being carnivore, you just don''t fart and so I And now they don't cause that. Like it's not a problem. It's a non-issue.

I can have, you know, ground beef and eggs and I'm fine. Fatty beef brisket is one of my favorite things to eat. Love rib eyes. And every once in a while if like, I need to like I'm out with with people or whatever. I will eat pork or chicken or fish But it just doesn't say she ate me like beef does but do you and do have like as much of a sensitivity to it now that you've been eating this for a while? Okay. No, no, I can eat it and it doesn't cause me the problems that it used to. It just doesn' hit that spot, that beef does.

it feels like an appetizer. Like if I have, you know, shrimp and like fish or whatever. I'm just like, okay, That was cute. That's like and appetiser, like get me that meal. And the meal is always hitting that spots with the beef. It's a you so you really what this is not that your doctor referred you to carnivore it's like you learned about this one person who had positive effects on it and then you kind of just. What made you go like, oh, I'm gonna try that? That's a big leap of faith. And a lot of people are not so reticent to leave the safety of Western medicine.

They're not retisent, to change their diet, the comfort, you know, leave their comfort zone. Because even though it was a disorder, it's still somewhat a comforts zone, right? Because food is emotional for most people. Yeah, absolutely. I really I don't even sometimes have words for what happened in that moment. It was February 23rd. 2019 and I literally couldn't do anything. I was so incapacitated mentally and emotionally and physically, I had nothing left to give. And I remember I just laid there and listened to the first chapter of the audio book by Amber O'Hearn And I heard a woman who had a story that was literally like a mirror to me, that she was biting her husband's head off and that, you know, just causing chaos for her children.

And it was just this angst. have you noticed how calm you are? Have you notice how smoothly things are running? And then it was 10 years later. And so just to get that glimpse of hope was everything to me, but what it more than anything was this knowing. Just like we were talking about where we felt familiar, it felt like a familiar thing. It felt that's what I'm supposed to do. And I came from addiction of sugar and processed food. Instead of just making a batch of cookies, I would make two batches so that I could eat the dough of one batch and the cookies of the other batch.

So I knew that, thankfully, being this extreme with the bipolar disorder, that I needed to jump all the way in. I couldn't just like tiptoe into the water. And I know me and I that needed go absolutely extreme. So, I jumped in because I had this knowing and went all in and it was the best gamble that could have made. One of the issues though, a lot of humans have, but particularly addicts, is anchoring though. Anchoring in like, okay, I'm now doing something differently. It doesn't give me the same high that I used to have the adrenaline, right?

Finding Joy, Anchoring, and Emotional Stability 16:58

A lot of them go to support groups. There's so many different actions people take to try to stay anchored. But when talking to many addicts, that's kind of the piece that they struggle with the most is like, how do I stay connected to this positive feeling, these changes? So what is your anchor? So for me, I was in such a dark place that it was just a new pile of horrible for to not have that dopamine hit from the sugar and the processed food. And so it wasn't anything new for my to suffer. And so I had this hope that I would at least get relief.

I didn't think it was going to resolve my bipolar disorder. And I had this, like I said, this level of tolerance for just destruction, that it just, it felt like, I was going to go through this no matter what. And then for me, my coach was my brother. He was the one who told me about this. he was one that sent me Amber O'Hearn's book. And I remember I reached out to him the first day and I told him everything that I ate. And he said to just keep that fat 50% as much as you can. I really believe that that was what kind of helped me because I had this witness.

I think it was in March. In March, then I was hooked because I had never experienced joy before that was not from, you know, drugs or alcohol or sex or shopping. Wow. And what was that joyful moment? I was just driving. I driving in the car and it happened for 10 minutes. And it was like this little pinhole. It was a little bit of joy and so foreign. Oh, I just was driving and I said, okay, this is weird. What is this? What's this experience? And then just like that it's gone. Okay, that was weird, it came back the next day for 15 minutes and then the next day for 20 minutes.

And now I literally can't have a bad day. Like I could have flat tire. I can have my husband cuss me out. My best friend betray me. All these things and I'm just like, okay, we'll see how it goes. Wow. That's huge. Yeah. Especially going from the other extreme where I would stub my toe and it would ruin my whole day, you know? Right. Wow, you're making me think then that some of those, those moments for people are really connected even more so to diet than even any of us realize. You know, I think we tend to connect them to, oh, just it's my mood, or just like I'm just having a, it a cloudy day that, that it, It's outside of, versus no, maybe it is chemical, Maybe it biological, maybe you're not eating enough fat, and like you, things are live wires because of it.

Yeah, but, you and I talked about this before, one thing that really bothers me is that I feel like I should be able to process the other stuff. Like- What do you mean? Well, like for instance, I think three years in I was cooking for my son and we were arguing. I wish you could have been there because you would have helped being a chef, but we are arguing about the crispiness of french fries. And so I peeled my own potatoes, they were white potatoes and I making them for son. And we were arguing whether they were crispier baked, sauteed, or deep fried.

And it was all beef tallow, and it all potatoes that I peeled myself. So we had three different ways, then we did a taste test. I should have just had him do the taste-test. but I ate nine French fries that I cooked in my kitchen with white potatoes and beef tallow. I had depression for 24 to 48 hours. Like I was in bed with like suicidal ideation. And I'm just like, what is wrong here? This is not a sign of wellness or health that can't have nine french fries, that made in own kitchen. There's a misfire here somewhere.

And so I would love to eventually get to the place where I can have nine french fries and not have depression for 48 hours. Well, that's the rub though, right? I mean, the thing I think we're all fighting is that we have expectations of ourselves at whatever age we are at that this is where we should be in our life and this how life should for us. And when that is inconsistent with that expectation we it's very frustrating because then self judgment comes, then you get really that battle, that inner battle of like, but is there something wrong with me?

Why is it always like this? why is life so hard? And then we start, the trauma stories kind of increase and then overwhelm us entirely. But I do think you're tapping something that is inherently challenging for all of us as we age, depending on our diets, different phases of our lives, we're constantly battling expectation and change, involuntary change. Change that's just gonna happen, doesn't matter what you do, sorry, life is changing. But it does sound like, despite you saying that you haven't figured it out, it sounds like you have some grounding in it.

like it sounds to me like you actually, you're recognizing, your sensitive enough in your body that you are recognizing what is working, what's not working. It sounds me that your also I don't know, do you think maybe that you also have faith that there's this connection to something bigger than yourself that's helping you to take it one day at a time?

Inner Clarity System and Client Work 24:18

Yeah, absolutely. And I can look back and I see the possibility that on February 23rd, 2019, I could have missed that message. I could have skimmed over that. I couldn't have been like, okay, whatever. But I heard the message and I internalized it and knew that it was for me. And now it's like learning a new language. Like I'm learning the language of my soul. and of my spirit and how to navigate it. And I can hear those messages more clearly now because I'm not chock full of sugar and processed food and inflammation.

There was so much noise. I was thinking about what I would eat every two to four hours. Now I have so many free, I could fast for five days. and not think about food, and I'm perfectly fine. You wouldn't even know that I was fasting. And so for me personally, to have this connection to spirit, this other aspect of navigating life, it's priceless. It's so much more important to me than enjoying a pizza. Right. You created a system. called what, inner clarity system, right? It's like an eight week program, is that right.

And you're basically, it's taking everything you've learned and everything based on your education as well that is supporting other people navigating these kind of health issues. So what do you believe people really need to move from the chaos to the calm in their mental and physical health? Yeah, I absolutely have found that other people like me that were struggling with mental illness, they couldn't do just like a self-paced program. They would get excited at the program, and they would log in.

And they might watch the first video or do the week's homework. But what we need is to be seen. What we needed is you connect and to know that somebody is there with us. And I realized that the mental health model of just being a therapist was a broken model. Because I would have my clients come in and they would divulge all of their trauma from childhood or whatever. And they'd lay it all out on the table. And I'm like, OK, your 45 minutes is up. I'll see you next week. It was just like OK. OK I will pack up my guts and put him back in my torso.

And so I realized that I needed to not only meet them where they're at, but I need to show them and reflect back to them. So that's part of the inner clarity system is I'm not teaching them to listen to me or listen doctor so-and-so or to this YouTuber. I am teaching to to themselves. their inner clarity. And I do that through modeling conversations back and forth. It has been so profound. I had a client just this week and she said, the intensity of your work is the magic. because I know that you're right here with me on this journey.

And I was just like, okay, that's why I'm doing it. You definitely are very present. I mean, at least that is my judgment of you. Like you seem very president, very engaged, not only with your own process, your life, but just whoever you are around. What do you attribute that presence to? Do you do attribute it to the, the pain that you went through from the past? Yes and no, but I also think I just came out of the womb like this. I'm very, very curious, just like you. And I wanna know, where this thought comes from.

I want to know where these behavior comes form. And what I have found that is at the root of every welcome behavior and every unwelcome behavior is either love or a distortion of love. And so whenever I get in there, I know that that's what we're getting to. And then that is what just keeps me so curious. I do, feel like I'm an investigator and I like, ooh, let's get to the bottom of this and let me show you how amazing you are. Watching them see themselves through new eyes is so rewarding. What's an example of a distortion of love?

Um, so I I definitely have found kind of a theme of A lot of clients that they They come from like childhood trauma like parental trauma and Being told that their worthless and that there useless and they've internalized a lot these messages and whenever I can flip the the power to them. And I can say, yeah, but look at all of the circumstances that have been set up to this, and you survived that. You were so strong through all of this. Look at this other person. They have a mom and a dad, and they're telling them that they are beautiful and wonderful and incredible.

And they've got this six-figure income and this little white picket fence and, you know, this 20-year marriage and whatever. Duh. You know, duh, they felt really good about themselves. Duh, They attracted this, you know incredible relationship. But you are still standing through all of this adversity. And so I flipped the script and I show them that they are the hero in all this. and then I let them know that that power is literally them unpacking all of that distortion of love so that they don't have to wait on mom and dad and their siblings or whatever to love them.

They get to stand up and say, I'm going to nurture her. I am going nurture him. And then they get you love themselves. So there's the distortion love. Then they take the responsibility of loving themselves, does that make sense? Yeah, no, I like it. Well, so, okay, you're working a lot with clients. You're looking to help other people a lots, right? And one of the things that happens with most health practitioners when their output is helping other, the person that suffers the most is them. So their input lacks.

How are you holding space for your own nervous system while you're supporting others. I have friends like James Berry. I have friends like Angela. I had friends, like my local best friends.

Self-Compassion, Setbacks, and Healing Insights 32:28

Okay, but to your point, so you're recognizing, hey, I don't have... So this is actually an important distinction. You said early on that you felt alone. And so what I'm hearing right now is you like, oh, well, how I support my own health now, is I am no longer alone, reach out, talk to people, share my experience, ask for help. Is that true? Oh, 100%. I don't hide because I recognize that hiding is actually just that isolation is cutting me off from maybe the trauma, but it's also cutting off me from the solution.

And so I have found that whenever I am vulnerable to see people, I don't just open myself up to anyone. But when I'm open to kind and loving souls and I allow that love to come into the darkest parts of me, then it is like this salve that just heals so much of my wounds that almost I didn't even know was there. And so I do that self-care first. I don't come into any of my appointments with my clients when I am at a deficit or I have an empty cup. Like, there's not ever a day that I'm not just intentionally filling my cup and connecting to Source and Connecting to Spirit because I don't know if somebody is going to, you know, have a crisis and, maybe even need to go to the psych ward or something's going to happen.

And so I just stay ready. I literally am this wellspring now of just joy and love that comes out of me because I recognize that that's the whole reason I came to earth. That's a whole I'm on this mission. So beautiful. I have to wonder though, it's such a contrast from the person that you started out the podcast describing of who you used to be. So what would Emily Penton of 2025 tell little Emily back then? What advice would you give her? I would tell her that she is enough. She always felt like she wasn't enough.

And I said many times back then that I have nothing left to give because I tried so hard in every job. I gave my all. Like I was not that like half-assed person. Every relationship I've been in, I give my All. everything that I've ever done. I'm just intense and I give my all. And then I got to the point where I just had to tap out and like, I have nothing left to give. So I was constantly recognizing that didn't hit the mark. That I felt like I wasn't enough until I get to this point of clarity to know that more than enough, that even on my worst day, I am knocking it out of the park.

And that shift in me is why I'm able to show up every day. I love it, Emily. Love it. It is so important. So important to honor thyself. To honor thy journey. Have you had any setbacks in this journey? Yeah, I had a really interesting one. I started eating honey because honey is carnivore, because it's from bees. And I did not take into account my addiction to sugar, and I was not eating pure, raw, unfiltered honey. And so it is more than likely pretty much very close to high fructose corn syrup.

And I didn't have a little bit of honey. I ate copious amounts of because I just fell back into my addiction because i hadn't had a sweet taste in my mouth for five years and then all of a sudden I have honey and I went off the rails and it threw me into psychosis. And so for three days, I thought I was a mermaid. I Was telling my family really weird things.I was talking really fast. Um,I scared them. i scared my friends and my Family and thankfully they watched my youtube and My dad sat a plate of two pounds of fatty beef brisket in front of me And he said you need to eat this and here's some water." And I was like, okay.

And within two hours, I just snapped out of the psychosis. I think I went through psychoses. He was, like yeah, for three days. It took us a while to figure it out, but yes. Then I, of course, haven't gone back to honey. Wow. You bring something up, though, that is that's really interesting to me. And I'm wondering what your opinion of this is. As a self-labeled addict of sugar, is it all or nothing? Yeah. Yeah, it's all are nothing, absolutely. And I'm looking back and I am like, why did I even do that?

I should have been more aware and more cautious. But I'm almost grateful that it happened because I learned so much. And what I learn about my family is that they didn't take me to the psych ward. They didn' put me on medication. The met me where I was at. That could have been an absolute tragedy and instead it was just like a speed bump. And so as much as I'm just like, dang it, why did I do that? I am grateful because I saw this love come out of my friends and come outta my family that even when I lost my mind for three days, they loved me and they took care of me.

And, so, I don't have to feel like this big strong girl that I, you know, in charge of life and I protecting my life. I have allowed my village to be there for me, And that was more of a benefit for me than anything. And is that what's helping you? Because it's interesting to me that you made that comment about the potatoes, like, oh, I felt so frustrated that I was so sensitive. But it doesn't sound like you're being hard on yourself about that honey. So is the difference? Is that because you felt that connection to your family, your community, and you feel that love from them?

Yeah. I mean, I get what you're saying. And it's not that I feel frustrated with the potatoes or frustrated With the honey. It's just I Feel like there's something missing. Like there is something in the wires that are crossing in my brain. Why did honey cause me to go into psychosis? Why Did potatoes cause Me to Go into depression? I'm so thankful for carnivore, but I recognize that it is just a band-aid that is really awesome. It's a gold band aid, it's phenomenal. But it holding back the symptoms, and it not showing me the root cause.

Am I not able to methylate properly? What's going on in my brain that these things happen? a great realization. Like that really like I want to honor you because that curiosity and that question that you're asking yourself right now, most people never ask themselves. But I really do believe you've struck gold because it's like we really are our our health is an onion right it's like things don't always show up from the gecko one thing does not correlate to the other sometimes you can deal with the outer layer and then now that your body is not fighting that it reveals something new and they're you know so but i think that pursuit is what we're really talking about that pursue of like you optimal health, like that it's not just about diet, that sometimes there can be something else going on and that we don't want to just, the goal is to be like resilient, to the point where I can have a potato, I could have the honey, anything and my body will be okay.

That's the call. I think that is how it should be. If I were to add a should, I think we are designed to thrive. I Think human humans are, and I that when we're so our bodies, our systems are so temperamental, that is a clue. And I, I love that you're asking the questions. Are you, are you at the place with the question where you were actually reaching out for help? Like, what are doing towards trying to find that answer? Yeah, I wouldn't say that I'm there, that i am actually asking to go like, you know, be a lab rat or be at what's a pin cushion where I am having blood

Grounding, Sunlight, and Ancestral Practices 42:58

drawn and figure me out, figure But I can see that I'm on that track because I see the pattern of Emily, that she goes through things because all she's going to do is turn around and help others. And so right now I am in the phase where I help other stop the bleeding. And once we put the tourniquet on and we've stopped the bleeding, that's awesome. That's better than, you know, what people experience with psych meds and the psych wards and everything. They don't even stop the breathing. And so I'm grateful that I am to that place.

But now I feel this shift. I fell this curiosity that now, I want to get into, OK, we stopped the bleeding. We've triaged everything. People don't want take their own lives. They're able to work full time. There able stay in marriages. Their able not, you know, break up with their best friend. Like their able function like a normal person. But now let's go into finding out why. Why is this here? Why Is this happening? And my journey has taken me into more of a spiritual journey in that once I cleared out the noise of the food noise and I got really still and really quiet, I'm actually getting some insights that maybe me not being neurotypical is actually my superpower and it's actually, my gift.

And it actually part of my mission. So here I am going, why am I not like normal humans? You're not a normal human. You are not supposed to be a human, you're supposed be supernatural. That's why you have different pathways. And so I don't want to sound arrogant at all, but I'm seeing that I am just on my path and so i'm just going to be in my lane and then I will help the others that feel like they are the scum of the earth and they're the rejects of society. Like the Emily Pentons of yesteryear.

Yes, I would love, this is my dream. This is absolutely dream for me to go into like some area of like homelessness and go find like all the schizophrenics and just feed them every day two or three fatty rabbis and be like, here you go, like I'm just giving to the poor. Like I am just feeding the homeless and then watch schizophrenic start to have the voices stop. start to be like, hey, I think I wanna get a job. I want to have a house, a family, and just watch. That would be my dream, to go and feed Schizophrenics Revice.

It's so like the opposite of what most soup kitchens, what have most providers give, right? I don't even know if they always serve me. Back in the day, I mean, and I know I volunteered and feel like it was mostly like lentils and beans and rice. That's interesting. Emily, so appreciate you sharing your story. I truly believe you are a model of that food affects our health. Absolutely. You know, you're proof. It's uneniable to this point. That's just my gut is directly connected to my brain and I can't deny that anymore.

And I don't believe you are abnormal. I think that's true for all of us and It's always beautiful when people learn that as early as possible and then of course there's those of us that learn it later like your eye but it's like. I, it's still shocking to me to this day that people don't connect how they feel to what they're eating. And of course there's more to it, but to mean, that's the baseline. It's, the most primal kind of ancestral thing of like, just focus on what you're. Because it is something you do every day.

Yeah, are there other kind of uh, because you mentioned a couple of you know this being everyday ancestral before we Go, I just feel like you've kind, of already articulated some Ancestral lifestyle or principles you, mentioned lion diet you would you? Know very very basic way of eating so i'd love you to kind Of elaborate to anyone that doesn't know what the lion, diet is and then the other piece that you Mentioned was silence and stillness so First question, what is the lion diet exactly for those that may not know?

And I might be curious at this point. Yeah, so lion's diet is ruminant meats because pig and chicken and other animals, they have a different way of processing with their stomachs and the rumenate animals. Go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say they just have the one stomach, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so that would be lamb. I'm sure there's like a whole list, but for me and for like typical people, it's just beef. So you're looking for, like lion diet is like the four chamber stomachs or the multi-chamber stomach, the ruminants like you said.

Yeah. yeah, and so I just, I stick with beef and that's it. It's any part of the whole animal, that that it, nothing beyond that the animal meat. And the animal fat, of course. And I added eggs six months ago. But we're talking about I've been eating just beef for six years. Wow. That's just where I thrive. Now, like I said, I can go have some pulled pork or chicken wings or fish. I could have it, but it just doesn't satiate me. It doesn' feed me like beef does. Oh, okay, so you're mostly doing beef.

And are there other ancestral tools, ancestral line tools that you are utilizing? Because you mentioned the lion diet, which I believe is very ancestral, right? And then you mention stillness. Are there others? Yeah. Spirituality, you'll mention as well? Yeah, absolutely. It was in April, I'm sorry, March of 2020. So here I am, just went through my first year of carnivore, resolved bipolar disorder, resolve multiple sclerosis. I went back to work full time in June of 2019. And then here, and here am March 2020, the whole world is falling apart and I had a tragedy.

absolute crisis in my family that involved my son and my entire world fell apart. And I called a friend and I'm like, hey, I like this happened, this happen, what do I do to resolve all of this trauma before? I just ate meat. Do I eat more meat? What do we do? And she said, I want you to go outside at sunrise and put your bare feet on the ground and your eyes in the morning sunrise." I was like, do you hear the words that I'm saying? There is an absolute crisis and tragedy that has hit my family and the whole rest of the world is exploding.

What are you talking about? And she was like, I'm telling you, put your feet on the ground, your eyes in the sun. I hung up and I went and did it. And I would do 10 minutes and then I go back to sleep. Then the next day I'd do 15 minutes, and go to go sleep until now it is my absolute favorite time of the day. Because what happened in that grounding was that it shifted my tragedy into purpose, into brilliance, and into beauty, the best thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life. It has literally healed everyone in the family that it affected.

it has been the most beautiful experience. What I thought was tragedy was actually a divine gift. And I just had to see it through the eyes of source into connecting with not only Mother Earth, but connecting to God. And, I was given the vision of what is actually going on. So, it's not just about me. It's also about connecting, to the Earth and to nature. You're saying you got that wisdom or that download from the grounding of your feet on the earth and from getting that very specific early morning sunlight

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that is very indifferent than the rest of this day's sun, so. 100%, and I knew it because I would go and spend that 10 minutes and would just be seeing tragedy in my life. And I'm just like, ah, and then I'd spend the 10 minute and everything's okay. Everything's all right. Nothing is wrong. It's going to be okay." And then I would come back in after the 10 minutes and I'm like, this is not okay. Like I didn't go back to where I was with bipolar disorder, but I still, it was a valid concern. And then I started whenever I would go and I'd spend 15 minutes or whatever and then it started just expanding into my day just like how hope came into me with that carnivore eating.

This vision came in to me and i was able to see the reality of my tragedy as actually a gift. And so I believe that it was not that my circumstance changed, because that lasted for a year and nine months, that tragedy. And I believe that what I did was I changed my beacon and that I was attracting everything to fall into place. Iwas attracting love.I was attracted for all of these things to work out. And it took a year and nine months, but they did.And now they're better than ever. I mean, not to detract at all from what you're saying, like I think what your perspective on it is so valid, but I have to wonder if included in your prospective is that just like the food affected your neuroses, right?

That the grounding and that specific light were also feeding your system a very depleted system. You know i mean it is in a different but similar way to the way the food was in and i i almost like that it's one of the best testimonies of these ancestral simple principles we're talking real whole foods. we're focusing primarily on whole animal. We're focussing on waking up when we technically used to wake up, right? It's like with the sunrise, which probably also coincided with you now starting to go to bed when the sun set, because if you were getting up so early, you're getting tired and going to better earlier, Right?

Absolutely. Yeah, and then grounding, right? Not having anything in between you and the earth, which we also used to have more exposure to that. So that's incredibly powerful. Thank you so much for sharing that and thank you for being that beacon. Hopefully, you are to me, You are definitely that beacons to be, but I hope that everyone listening recognizes and gets something from your story because I really believe you're a beacon for everyone else as well. So thank you so much. How can people get in touch with you?

How they can they explore your inner clarity system? Please share how people can find you. Yeah, it's innerclaritiesystem.com. And it just breaks down kind of what it is to work with me. I don't actually work anybody unless they first come through a clarity call. Because I need to make sure that I'm a good fit for you, you're a fit fit me, and it $111. But I have had hundreds of people that have that one call with And they take what we set up and what uncover there. And I did an email a month later and they're like, you totally changed my life.

I got one a couple months ago, a guy a year later, and he was like Emily, I don't even recognize my wife. And it was one call. And I'm like, OK, cool. Awesome. I love it. Then, of course, I have other people who need more of that kind of a rehab, more intense daily help. We go from there. People can find you on socials as well, right? Yep. Inner Clarity System. If you search anything Emily Penton or Inner clarity system, you're going to find me. That's an incredible low price for what you offer.

Thank you. Thank you again, and I look forward to hearing more healing and more revelations from you in our relationship as we grow to get to know each other better. And I just thank you for sharing your story. I thank all of you joining us on this journey. I gotta say, it's fantastic getting this time with such interesting people and I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for you. So thank you for listening, for watching, and please leave a comment. Please let me know how we're doing and stay curious.

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