How To Boost Your Energy With The Right Minerals

Kashif Khan

Hello everyone, and welcome back. We have a really cool conversation for you. In general terms, it’s something that everyone needs to know about. But specific to fasting, this is really important because we’re our food, and we’re going to dive deep into those, and there’s no better person to share this with us than Caroline, who’s here today. Our food is depleted of minerals, and we think about nutrition: How much protein do I need? How much fat do we need? What vitamins should I take? And nobody ever asks about minerals. And you’re like, No, I ate my broccoli. I got my spinach. Yes, but that broccoli is not grandma’s broccoli. It’s fluff. It’s filler. There’s no filler; let’s just say that. And so Caroline has made it her mission to educate the world about this topic and to support it in a big way. First of all, welcome, Caroline..

Caroline Alan

Thank you very much, Kashif. It’s super nice to be here with you.

Kashif Khan

No, it’s awesome. I remember the last time I saw you was in Arizona at the Consumer Health,  which is actually the Biohacking Conference.

Caroline Alan

That we saw. Just a quick pass, though.

Kashif Khan

Yes, that’s right. Yes, I’ve seen you everywhere because there’s such a need for this, and you’ve been growing quickly. But really, I think the reason we’re here today is to share with people the knowledge that you have. First thing, when people are fasting, they don’t yet know a lot of people; that doesn’t mean that there’s nothing you can consume. What you’re avoiding are calories. But imagine if, during that fast, there were things you could take in that replenished you and made you healthier but did not remove the benefits of fasting. If you do that, there’s a much better outcome. So you learned this, and now you’ve created science and part of it. So what’s going on with the minerals, and why do we need them? Like, what’s actually interchangeable in the body?

Caroline Alan

Yes, the best way to frame this for people is to just get them thinking in a different way. I feel it’s because of my own experience with using metal minerals and mineral replenishment in my own body and how it completely and radically changed my own health. I’m truly on a mission to help people understand minerals because, as I had these incredible effects, I did a huge amount of research about mineral deficiency, mineral replenishment, how it works in the body, and why minerals are so important. The first thing that I like is that there are a couple of important things that I like people to focus on. The first is that if you took all of the water out of your body, you would be a little pile of minerals. If you look around your room, everything—all of the structure that you’re in—is made from minerals. You’re looking at the table, the chair, the lamps—everything is made from minerals. So minerals are the foundational elements of all of the structure in your body and in the world.

That’s number one. And yet we never think or talk about minerals unless we’re maybe talking about, you know, calcium, one of the big five or six. So the next thing is that your entire body is made of cells. And you have about 37 trillion to 150 trillion cells in your body. And inside your cells, you have these energy-generating powerhouses called the mitochondria. Many of us have heard of those. But the interesting thing is that the things that fuel mitochondria are minerals and amino acids. Your body makes a lot of amino acids, but it makes no minerals. So you have to consume them, intravenously put them into your body, or drink them. Know that you have to come in from the outside. And the sad fact is that the food we’re eating, as you just explained earlier, is no longer full of minerals. When you grow a plant in soil over and over again, the way that it creates the structure of the plant is by pulling the minerals out of the soil.

Kashif Khan

Right.

Caroline Alan

The soil itself no longer has minerals. Like you said, that’s not your grandmother’s broccoli anymore.

Kashif Khan

Yes, and people don’t consider that because, if you talk to a nutritionist or do research or whatever, the nutrition facts, let’s say, around a plant, haven’t changed, but they have changed. But we were still told that this is what you get from eating this food this way. But we don’t actually get it when the soil is dead; how can the plant have life?

Caroline Alan

What they are doing now is add a lot of nitrogen, and what it actually does is make the plant create more carbohydrates. So your plants, rather than having a greater balance of protein, have more carbohydrates. You’re right that we need to really look at nutritional facts in a whole new way now.

Kashif Khan

When you started off, you were saying that we think about the big five, right? What else is there that we need to think about?

Caroline Alan

Well, there are a huge number of minerals that your body needs. Some of the ones that I like people to think about are, for example, many people have cramps now because of this mineral depletion issue, which is also exacerbated because we’re drinking filtered and bottled water. These have no minerals in them.

So kids who are playing soccer or basketball are coming off their sports with cramps. Now, I don’t know about you, but I didn’t know any kids when I was playing sports when I was a kid who used to have cramps. But now lots of kids are experiencing cramping, and it is a mineral deficiency. So some people think about cramping and think, Oh, I need electrolytes. They think of magnesium, which is the big one people think of, and potassium and calcium, which are different from the big electrolytes. But the fact is, cramping can be caused by an imbalance between your minerals, work, and balanced pairs. It’s not something we think about or know about.

They work a lot more like hormones or blood sugar. They need to be put into the body and replenished in a balanced way. As an example, cramping can also be caused by a phosphorus deficiency, or an imbalance between magnesium and potassium. Let’s say you have a cramp, and you go and take a whole bunch of magnesium because somebody said that’s what you need to remove your cramps. Now you further created an imbalance between your magnesium and calcium. Then what happens is that calcium actually gets pulled out of your bones to try to balance that magnesium. Endurance athletes, as an example, end up with osteoporosis because they’ve been taking so much magnesium throughout their training years. This just gives you a different way. What happens is that you have to completely change how you think about minerals.

Kashif Khan

Well, for sure. Even start your thinking because some people haven’t even considered that this is a need. I remember looking at your science a little bit, and you have these categories where you break it up into what’s called fulvic. Then there’s another category. Why are those important? What does that mean?

Caroline Alan

Yes. Let me talk about minerals. Most people think about minerals, and most minerals that you take in pill, powder, or flavored drink form are actually made from rocks, shells, and bones. And salts—a lot are also salt-based. Now think about your gut, and how well do you think your gut actually digests rocks, shells, and bones? Not very well, right?

Kashif Khan

Yes..

Caroline Alan

So this is what happened when I started doing all this research on mineral replenishment. I had such huge A-has because I thought, Okay, here we are putting these megadoses formatted, meaning measured in milligram amounts of manganese here and calcium here, taking these electrolyte replenishment things, and people are still cramping even though they’re taking a lot of them. Why is that? The first big Aha was because only about 10 to 12% of what you put in those kinds of mineral supplements gets digested. The thing about minerals is that not only do they have to be digested, they also have to be absorbed through your gut lining into your bloodstream. Then they have to be assimilated into your cells. It’s one of those huge things to think about. Minerals actually do very little for you. There are a few that do something in your bloodstream, like iron, but most of them do not do their job. They do not help the mitochondria produce energy unless they get all the way inside your cells.

The cool thing is that Mother Nature designed and provided an incredible mineral replenishment technology, and it’s called Fulvic and Humic. These are plant-based minerals. Imagine an entire rainforest back when the dinosaurs lived, which decomposed over millennia into this mineral-rich substance. It’s called Humate. It’s a crystalline substance. You can also find it in the Himalayas. It’s called Shilajit or Shallot. However you want to say it, and that’s more of a pasty substance in our case, what we use is something called Humic. Lots of people use that. It’s a crystalline black substance. And that substance has two incredible oil molecules. One is called fulvic and the other is called humic, and they truly are technologies. Fulvic is a very, very small molecule. It’s much smaller than the cell. It’s being studied around the world because it’s not only a very strong electrolyte but also one of the strongest and has one of the strongest electrolyte charges of any molecule that is known to man. But it’s also a flavonoid, and a flavonoid is one of those terms that we all hear. But what is it? It’s an intercellular transporter. 

The cool thing about something that goes into your cells is that most elements that go across a cell wall require some sort of receptor to go through the cell wall. But the fulvic, because it’s evolved in this way over millennia, gets a completely free pass through the cell wall. So any channel that opens in your cell, that vulvic molecule goes right through the cell wall, and it carries with it 60 times its weight of nutrients and mineral content right into the cell. Then it does what no other molecule on earth does: It changes its polarity. This is really unprecedented. All molecules that we know of, particularly the description of an electrolyte, are molecules with a specific charge, either positive or negative. This molecule can change its polarity, so when it goes into the cell, it changes its polarity, and all those things that are clinging to it drop off inside the cell—the nutrients, the mineral content. Now it’s available for the mitochondria for energy uptake. I mean, for energy generation and all of its cofactors.

Kashif Khan

Sounds incredible. It sounds almost like science fiction, like this is at the matrix level. 

Caroline Alan

This is truly what I feel like. When I heard your story, I thought, was it your daughter or your niece?

Kashif Khan

My niece.

Caroline Alan

Niece, and you talked about it with the DNA. I thought that was the level of a-ha moment that I had when I started realizing that this is actually the natural technology: you as a cellular system, excuse me, a set of cellular systems that evolved from the Earth, is completely evolved to utilize fulvic. If you look outside your house at all of the plants everywhere, they’re all utilizing fulvic in this exact way.

As a nutrient delivery system. The other thing that the fulvic does is that now that it has a negative, let’s say a negative charge, a positive charge, it is now bio-waste, having heavy metals, environmental toxins such as glyphosate, or any other environmental toxins that have gotten inside your cells. They now cling to the fulvic molecule, and it carries them out of the cell. It’s not only a nutrient uptake enhancer; it’s also an intercellular detoxifier. We all know that detoxification from your bloodstream is one thing, but getting it out of your tissues is another thing altogether. It’s much more challenging, especially with heavy metals that build up over time.

Kashif Khan

I’ve never heard that before, and that’s truly miraculous; miraculous is the first word that comes to mind because there’s this powerful tool that we could never create ourselves because of technology, too. So that is truly awesome.

Caroline Alan

Exactly. Truly, isn’t it? Like it blows my mind every time I talk about it.

Kashif Khan

And so what, where does the fulvic go when it clings on to all these toxins, etc., just going down regular detox pathways like?

Caroline Alan

So now let’s talk about what happens: this fulvic molecule carries those toxins by a waste heavy metal out of the cell, and then it changes its polarity again.

Kashif Khan

Wow.

Caroline Alan

It drops those things off inside the bloodstream, and now we have the synergistic relationship between the fulvic molecule and the humic molecule. Humic molecules, and these occur together in nature always. Whenever there’s one, there’s another. The humic molecule is much larger than a cell. The humic molecules are actually much more miraculous than the fulvic molecules. It’s extremely complex. I’m going to describe it. Even though it’s not this shape, it actually has a spiral shape. It has an extreme amount of surface area on the outside. It’s also one of the strongest electrolytes and has one of the strongest electrolyte charges. It’s one of the most effective heavy metal chelators. They used it in Chernobyl. They used it just to remove lead from either landmasses or people’s bodies. It really is an incredible heavy-metal chelator; it also bonds with biowaste. It also literally gathers free radicals in your system. It’s like, I’ve seen charts that show it’s thousands of times more effective as an antioxidant in your system than any superfood mix or anything else that you could put in your system.

It also does an amazing thing with glyphosate. Glyphosate is an environmental toxin that comes from production farming. It’s an herbicide that’s sprayed on genetically modified foods. And ultimately, we end up ingesting it, and it creates havoc in our gut microbiome. But what the human molecule does is, it’s called absorbing. So it grabs it, it clings to it, and then it builds a biofilm around it. Once it has this film around the glyphosate molecule, it starts breaking it down. As soon as it starts breaking it down, the glyphosate no longer has its negative effects in your system, and there are a whole bunch of those.

Imagine that Mother Nature not only provided the tool for mineral uptake and mineral and nutrient uptake enhancement into the cell, but she also provided the tool to get toxins out of the cell. And then it provided this gathering tool, this tool called a humic, that would gather all of that toxic waste and environmental toxins, etc., in the body. And then what happens is that the molecule gets so heavy at a molecular weight that it falls out of solution and leaves your channels through all of the elimination channels. And that’s really important because we know that with detox, especially with heavy metal detox, people often say, Well, we have to make sure that certain detoxification channels are open before you do detox. But the cool thing about humic molecules is that they use every channel. It doesn’t clog the liver; it uses your sweat, your tears, your saliva, your breath, rubbing your hands together, and the bottoms of your feet when you walk on the ground. Of course, your urine and feces, your normal sweat, your normal channels, and your hair. It uses every channel.

Kashif Khan

This explains so much because, firstly, I’m embarrassed to have thought of mineral supplementation as a nutrition exercise. You’re getting the minerals you need that are depleted by food. But the mechanisms that you just described and what’s going on in the body are core fundamental functions, and it’s no wonder that this is why I’m saying there’s so much more. It’s no wonder that there’s so much autoimmunity, so much inflammation, and so much adversity with environmental toxins because there’s a process that your body thinks you’re doing because it thinks you’re still eating the foods that used to provide you the tools and you’re not. So our complaints over the conditions we have are partly rooted in not knowing that there’s a core foundational process that was meant to be part of your daily protocol. And so you were a little bit more resilient. You were meant to be, we should say, a little less toxic. You are. You were meant to be a little less inflamed than you are. But there’s a major piece of your daily routine missing, and it’s blowing my mind because it’s so clear when you describe the sort of reaction that that chain reaction that goes on the baton pass between all these different processes, how clear and obvious it is that we are meant to do this regularly and daily, and because of our food, we can’t.

Caroline Alan

One of the things I was recently thinking about was that there have always been environmental toxins. There were volcanoes, and there were all sorts of environmental toxins that animals and humans came into contact with Millennia ago. But we were also drinking from the ponds where fulvic was. We were also ingesting lots of humic and fulvic all the time. Not only did our bodies have the energy—we literally could generate more energy than we could deal with—but we also had more bandwidth. That’s one of the things that scientists and cellular biologists often say now: with mineral depletion, most modern humans are probably operating at about 40%, if you’re lucky, of the mineral content in their bodies that they need for optimal homeostasis development. So what that means is, if we’re in a house right now and you have a light, just dim it down to 40%. That’s how old people’s bodies are operating..

Kashif Khan

Yes.

Caroline Alan

So the first piece is just getting some minerals in. So, okay, people are taking different electrolyte supplements, and they’re taking maybe zinc and calcium or different things like that, right? It’s a start. But again, the problem is that, just like our car, our body is not like a car. We tend to think about our bodies like, Oh, I need more magnesium; throw in magnesium; I need more potassium; throw in potassium. But the replenishment tool and the process in your body don’t work like that at all. It’s not like a store that you can just fill up.

Kashif Khan

Yes.

Caroline Alan

It doesn’t work like that. So the other cool thing about these plant-based humic and fulvic minerals that I think is astonishing is that your body is made of a certain ratio of minerals. You’ve got a lot of magnesium, potassium, and calcium. You utilize a lot of those, but you also have very small amounts of very important minerals like copper, phosphorus, and molybdenum—things that you wouldn’t take in, right? The cool thing is that humic and fulvic are formulated in exactly the same ratio that your body is made of. They have a lot of magnesium, calcium, and potassium in the same way that your body utilizes them in the same ratios that your body needs those minerals, at least for a person who doesn’t have some specific deep depletion, which is also possible, right? But the beautiful thing about these plant-based minerals is that when you take them over time, they level all your minerals into the right ratios.

Kashif Khan

This all sounds too good to be true.

Caroline Alan

Really. But seeing as we go to these shows and do these mineral tests, we use a particular scan that uses photo spectrometry, which is really the best way to scan for mineral levels. If anybody wants to find out how they are doing for electrolytes and minerals, it will also do vitamins. They can find a scan; it’s called Oligoscan, and they’re slowly increasing; there are not a lot of practitioners who do it, but it uses photo spectrometry. It shines a light into your tissue, and it’s used in materials science. It’s a very stable science; it returns, goes through an algorithm, and returns data on all of your levels of heavy metals, beneficial minerals, electrolytes, and vitamin levels, as well as your overall oxidative stress. Now the cool thing about it is that when we’ve done that with people, when they come to one show one year and then the next year they come back and they’ve been taking our minerals, and they come back and do another scan, their levels have leveled out unless they have something like a single-cell parasite or something like that that’s causing other problems with uptake and absorption.

Kashif Khan

Yes, I’ve been using your product for some time, and I’ve done a lot of work to reduce biological age and reverse it. In fact, I’ve done a lot of work to eliminate foreign diseases. I had five of them. They’re all gone. But I have never, prior to using your product on a regular, ongoing basis, walked into a conference with the same person who I’ve seen over and over again and asked, What happened to you? You look younger. Well, there’s a glow on your face. What’s going on? I was like, What did I do differently? Not much. Then I realized the thing that changed was that I added your product, and I felt different also, with that resilience that I’m sleeping better, for example, with consistent better sleep. There’s a resolution there, and the proof is in my face. Where people see it, there’s this glow. What’s going on? You look healthy. So why, then, the way you described this perfect miraculous process, why are the products split? Because you have fulvic and humic, is that correct?

Caroline Alan

Yes. It’s fulvic and humic. 

Kashif Khan

Yes. Because it sounds to me like you have to, by the time you go on to that second charge reversed and you’ve now released the toxins in the bloodstream, you have to continue that job of clearing. What’s the rationale behind splitting that?

Caroline Alan

Yes. Just so we’re clear, there are a lot of products out there that have humic and fulvic. Humic is a molecule that actually includes fulvic. We actually extract the fulvic out of the humic, okay? What it does, we’ve done it for specific reasons, and there, this will probably be more interesting to people who are practitioners, but it’s also useful for just the regular person, particularly for the person who’s fasting, and particularly for people who have autoimmune disease or who’ve had Lyme disease, mold exposure, are experiencing mycotoxin stuff, or are just very sensitive systems. The humic molecule because it’s a gentle detoxification agent, but for people who have very, very sensitive systems, I have an autoimmune disease. If I drink a cup full of MicroBoost, which is our humic product, and just shoot it down, I’ll get a rash. Just because my body goes, Yay, I can get rid of anything. Whatever this is, I can get rid of it now. If it does it all at once, I’ll get a rash, okay? Or it will make it a little pimple on my face or something; it’s not a huge thing, but I do get it. I mean, the simple solution is I just take it, I put it in my glass of water; I actually didn’t put it in there today, but usually I put my stomach into my glass of water, and I just drink that over, an hour or half an hour. You could drink it over 10 minutes or 5 minutes, even if you want it, but you just don’t hit it all at once into your gut.

Then, for the fulvic one, think about humic as an incredible detoxification tool. Because we’re always encountering environmental toxins, we have this tool that we can use. We’re also always encountering bacteria, flu, and viruses. Viruses do not live well in a system that is heavily infused with humic. It’s well documented in scientific papers that humans and viruses do not do well together. So literally, I’m knocking on wood, but literally, I just don’t get sick.

Kashif Khan

But I can tell you. At the biohacking conference that we were just talking about, our team had about five or six people there. Everyone got COVID from our booth, which you don’t hear that much anymore. But for some reason, we all had COVID except for two people, me and Jason, who are on your product.

Caroline Alan

Well, I have to tell you an interesting story because I sat and chatted with somebody on your team, and we talked very close. I mean, we were breathing at each other for a good 40 minutes at the show. And I didn’t get COVID, and they did let me know. And I said, Yes, I didn’t get it. But isn’t that so? It really is. It really is a thing. And I used to get sinus infections every season before I took the minerals, and I haven’t had a sinus infection in ten or nine years.

Kashif Khan

I feel like my kids do too. I have three kids at home with viruses. They’re like virus transporters on a daily basis. I feel a bit of a tingle, and then it goes away. And they’re now on it. My son’s speaking of cramping; he’s an athlete and plays basketball. He’s in his midteens. We used your product for that purpose. That’s the original reason why I bought it to begin with, by the way: for him. He was getting a little bit of white hair, and he was cramping. So I said to myself, That looks like a mineral deficiency. The copper and all that stuff are there. Anyway, with a rapid turnaround, those problems aren’t there anymore, and he has a lot more bandwidth in terms of how much time he can put into his sports without feeling bad, right?

Caroline Alan

Yes, and I find that I work with athletes all the time. And the difference from using electrolyte replacement tools—I won’t name the brands, but all those megadose-formatted things still never feel replenished. They’re always dealing with cramping or things like white hair or other skin issues. And they start using our products, and they just really turn around. So let’s talk about the green bottle. Our green bottle, which is called electrolytes. So if you think about our MicroBoost, which is now in a blue bottle, that one is the humic product that you can use for immune boosting and detoxification. Now you have this green bottle, which is the electrolytes, which is the fulvic supplement. That is an incredible tool for athletes for electrolyte replenishment. The thing that’s so cool about it is that when you drink it, by the time it hits your stomach, your body is already utilizing some of that electrolyte content. Already utilizing it But. when you take a powder, a pill, or a flavor drink, it has to be digested first and doesn’t even begin to hit your system for absorption, for about 15 to 20 minutes if you have a really good digestive tract.

Kashif Khan

Right.

Caroline Alan

So it doesn’t actually get into your cells until 30 to 35 minutes later. But when you take these electrolytes, you drink them down, like on the sidelines of a basketball game when people are flagging and they take a quick shot. Boom, they’re back in action. It works that fast.

Kashif Khan

So going back to what you were saying earlier about how to take it, because I hadn’t heard this before, by the way, it’s not like any other supplement where you fill up your cup and pop your pills. There’s a methodology to sort of slowly slip between the two and explain why you would use them.

Caroline Alan

So the way I think about electrolytes is that they’re nutrients. It’s about enhancing nutrient uptake. So if you’re experiencing low energy or an electrolyte imbalance and if you need more energy, that’s the tool for electrolytes. Now and then, the MicroBoost is a tool for detoxification. Let’s say you ate something bad or you feel a cold coming on. You would use that if you needed to. You’ve determined that you have high levels of heavy metals; you might use an extra MicroBoost. Now what we say is, We call it the advanced set of electrolytes and MicroBoost together because they’re these incredible foundational support tools to not only provide all of the mineral supplementation you need. I see them all. So you don’t have to take any other mineral supplementation like zinc, calcium, or these other things that people take because they provide them all in a balanced format and the transportation system for those minerals into your cells. That’s the foundational amount, just like a half for an adult is a half cup or half an ounce of each of those every day. But now, on top of that, you have these electrolytes as your electrolyte replenishment tool. The same way you’d use any other electrolyte replenishment, you just add an extra cup of it. If you’re going on a big ride, put it in your water bottle and drink it. Drink it. If you’re going to be doing a sports event and you’re about to go out on the field, take an extra half shot or even a full shot. If it’s a really intensely hot day, you’re going to sweat a lot. Then the MicroBoost again—you can take it. Let’s say you feel a cold coming on as an extra immune boost or an extra detoxification.

Kashif Khan

And that one, you said, is better to sip slowly.

Caroline Alan

Yes. Again, the reason we have the humic separated is because now it allows you to titrate and utilize it the way it works best for your body. If you’re a person who’s very sensitive, you might start when you first start taking MicroBoost. You might start with a quarter teaspoon in a four-ounce glass of water, drink that, and then see how you feel. I’ve had people take that much, and they feel it’s a detox symptom. So if you’re a person who’s sensitive, it gives you, it allows you now to have this tool that you can slowly utilize. Whereas, if you have a pill, you just have to take the whole pill, or I guess you could cut it up. But it’s harder to work with your own filler needs for detoxification or energy uptake.

Kashif Khan

I remember the first time I met you, you told me something that I hadn’t heard before. I was taking minerals at the time, usually through salts. I definitely found a different outcome taking yours. There’s no such thing as visceral. I can feel it. But then you took this bottle and said, Tell me where you have pain. And I pointed somewhere, and you sprayed me. And I was like, What are you doing? You’re like, Well, this stuff deals with pain, like how it’s minerals. What’s the science and thinking there?

Caroline Alan

Yes, okay. We have a spray; it’s called Insta-Lytes, and it’s a fulvic spray. It’s a misting spray. So now imagine this incredible phobic molecule that’s much smaller than a cell and has incredible absorption capacity. You can spray anywhere in your body, and it absorbs directly through your skin right into the muscle. I actually use it for eye strain because I spend a lot of time at the computer. I hold it about 18 inches away from my face. I spray it, and I blink my eyes. It goes into my eyes, and it reinvigorates. It provides minerals directly to the mitochondria in my eyes. In one single cell of your eye, you have like 12 to 14000 mitochondria in a single cell. That’s how much energy your eyes have. The cells in your eyes are generating all the time.

Kashif Khan

Yes. Even the eye has the third-highest density in the body. It’s like the brain’s eye, and people don’t recognize it. And that’s why oxidative stress is so tied to macular degeneration. Your mitochondrial cells help your eyes stay healthy for a long time. So you’re saying that you can spray anywhere, and because of the size of the molecule, it just gets in.

Caroline Alan

Yes. And I mean, it actually works. We say it works like magic. But it’s backed by science. Because, literally, if you’re a woman with menstrual cramps, spray it on your abdomen, and the cramps will go away in minutes.

Kashif Khan

Wow.

Caroline Alan

If you’re a cyclist and you’re doing an event and you’re; so we went to an event. It was really fun. We were at the aid station, and the cyclists would come in, and they’d be like, doing some electrolytes, and they’d be looking for energy bars. Their legs would be like, Are your legs hurting? And they’d be like, Yes. We spray them down, and they would, like, after 30 seconds, look at us and go, Whoa, could that be helping that quick? And we’re like, Yeah, it does. It absorbs through your skin and into your muscles in 3 seconds. One thousand, two thousand, three thousand—is that amazing?

Kashif Khan

That is truly incredible.

Caroline Alan

Yeah, it works for tension headaches. It really is. It works. It’s truly an amazing tool.

Kashif Khan

How did you discover that? Because that’s not a common application. 

Caroline Alan

Well, one of the things that happened as a result of all the research that we did was that we started going, Wow, if it’s such a small molecule, wouldn’t it? My business partner, Dan Howard, used to get incredibly bad cramping every night, so he started taking the minerals. But when he would then go do some big activity, he would get cramping in his calves. So he thought, Well, why don’t I put it on my calves? So he did. And literally, the cramp would go away in 30 seconds. Cramps would usually be like, Oh, in the middle of the night, trying to massage it out for 15 minutes, it was gone in 30 seconds; maybe not completely gone, but it released the really intense pain. So let’s put it in a spray bottle.

Kashif Khan

That is so awesome. And this is where we need people like you to innovate and not have blinders on in terms of here’s what this thing does, and that’s all we’re ever going to talk about. If you start to understand human biology, the complexity and the simplicity are both extremes. And you can make the complex highly simple. If you just think, apply, and think outside of what we believe is the limitation of what we’re supposed to do, That’s exactly what you’ve done. And here we go. We have a solution that is so simple, but somebody had to make it simple, right? It’s really cool.

Caroline Alan

And yes, it really comes from my own experience. When I first took the minerals, it was because my business partner suggested it. I wasn’t his business partner at that time, and I had flatlined adrenals at that time. I had really bad inflammation in my gut. I had been gluten-free for about seven years, but I couldn’t get over the inflammation. I had sinus infections constantly. I had really bad inflammation in my mouth with bad gingivitis and deep pockets. I had bone loss in my teeth, and I had headaches constantly. I ended up taking a lot of Advil, of course, which exacerbated my gut problems. So just from taking these liquid vulvic and humic minerals, my adrenals came back to normal. The inflammation in my mouth and gut has completely resolved. I stopped having any sinus infections. I stopped having headaches, and because of that, that’s when I started to really go, Well, how could these little cups of liquid have such an effect? That’s when I really started researching. I think in some ways, because I’m not a scientist and because I really looked at this with new eyes, I didn’t have any preconceived notions. I was just learning, and by going down the rabbit hole in that way, I really started to not just understand and not just think of minerals as minerals, but think of how they work in the body. How mineral replenishment works. Then I started really thinking about these other mineral supplements, and I was like, Well, no wonder they don’t work. How many people have pill cupboards filled with bottles? And a lot of those are old mineral supplements that they don’t take because they didn’t make any difference.

Kashif Khan

Yes, by the way, I’m that person. I have had this bottle of, I think, dead sea minerals that came from the sea. It sounded good. Because I knew my water was void, I have a reverse osmosis system. I knew that I was lacking minerals. So I thought, Let me add this stuff. It tasted horrible and didn’t make me feel good. So I stopped. And that’s the other thing: they made it kind of tasteless. It just kind of gets in without even knowing. Now, this is just a thought that I had. I started to feel so much different about the minerals. I was wondering how much I needed to take the other supplements. I know you mentioned this about minerals in general, but my vitamin B is using these and all the other stuff I’m taking, and I’m still stuck there, by the way. I understand their biology and why I need them, right? But I’m questioning the dosage and frequency because there’s so much benefit from this one thing that your body needs. How much of that have we been using as symptom masking? When was this the real problem?

Caroline Alan

Well, it’s a really interesting question because our whole system of supplementation has been built on these minimum daily requirements. Which are completely ludicrous, actually, because who says that you need the same minimum daily requirements as I do, or a little kid, or anybody? Everyone is different, first of all. The second thing is that one of the reasons that those were created is because you put a huge amount in for some small amount to be digested, some smaller amount to be absorbed, and ultimately a much smaller amount to be assimilated into your cells. Once your system is fully infused with fulvic, you may be able to take less vitamin D, less vitamin B, or whatever. I’m not saying you take vitamins. Again, our food supply is our nutrition. The nutrition in the food is lower. But you may find that you don’t need so much. It’s another reason why it’s really a good idea for people to go get a scan. Again, the Oligoscan will tell you all your vitamin levels as well. And what we found after the pandemic was that lots of people had high zinc levels.

Kashif Khan

Oh really?

Caroline Alan

Lots of vitamin D. It’s really interesting because people were taking so much.

Kashif Khan

Overdosing.

Caroline Alan

Overdosing. Anyway, From the research that I’ve done, humic and fulvic are the foundational technologies for the cellular systems in your body. I talked to lots of other scientists and lots of other people who have other products that are helping people in the biohacking world. Every single one of them agrees that at the bottom, you have to have minerals. Those minerals are the foundation, and you have to figure out how to get those minerals into your cells. And many that I speak with agree that humic and fulvic are key components of that. I also want to help people differentiate a couple of things. Because people often ask me, What is the difference between these and sea minerals? The interesting thing about humic and fulvic comes from freshwater plants—decomposed freshwater plants, not sea plants.

The sea minerals are great for providing minerals, but they don’t provide the transportation system. They don’t have the full vignette or the OC. So if you took the fulvic, if you really wanted to use sea minerals, you could use those. If you took fulvic, they would help. The fulvic will then get those minerals into your cells. They would provide that assimilation engine. The other thing that people often use is salt. And this is a big thing that’s happened in the last several years as people do all these things themselves. Salt solutions are excellent for adding electrolytes, but people don’t know this, and I’m on a mission to tell people this. What I found from the research that I did is that salts are excellent for acute electrolyte depletion. If you’re about to faint or have sunstroke, take some salt. It’s a fantastic and acute-level replenishment tool, but it is not the tool that your body likes for ongoing electrolyte replenishment. What it actually does is irritate the kidney and the lining of the kidney in the bladder. It actually makes you urinate more, which further depletes it because it creates irrigation rather than hydration.

Kashif Khan

I’ve done both. I did, I guess with the salts, I didn’t have people commenting, first of all, that there’s a glow on my skin. I definitely felt better than if I were just drinking straight water at the gym. Right. But definitely not the same outcome. So I can see where you’re coming from there.

Caroline Alan

Yes. It affects acute depletion, but it’s not actually supporting the full replenishment of your body.

Kashif Khan

When you say that seawater or plants in the sea are all the same, there’s a big push on sea moss right now. So you’re saying the same thing. It doesn’t have a fulvic?

Caroline Alan

It doesn’t.

Kashif Khan

It doesn’t.

Caroline Alan

Sea moss is great for just getting minerals in. But again, if the minerals don’t get digested, I think that seamless is very digestible, like your body knows how to digest it. So that’s great. Now that you’re getting it, you have to absorb it and get it into your bloodstream. The mineral content that’s in it. Again, that it might be more absorbable. It doesn’t provide that assimilation engine or flavonoid capacity into the cell.

Kashif Khan

This is also important, and anyone listening can see why this is so important. Regardless of what problem you’re trying to solve, it’s a foundational thing. just like you breathe and drink water. You need minerals just like you need protein, fats, or whatever. And it’s not in your food. That is the big challenge; irrespective of what you do or how you plan to solve the problem, you have to solve it. It’s a major component of why we feel the way we do, and it’s also a major driver of why we could feel so much better. So how do people find the product? Is it in stores or on your website?

Caroline Alan

Mostly, we’re on our website, which is beamminerals.com. We’re also available on Amazon. You can look for us at beamminerals.com or Beam Minerals on Amazon. Also just to bring you back to the fasting piece,

Kashif Khan

Yeah.

Caroline Alan

I do. I really want people to recognize that when you’re fasting, it’s incredible to provide these humic and fulvic minerals because, when you’re fasting, your body is in autophagy. We know that the autophagy curve is exponential. Meaning that the longer that you fasted, you get much greater levels of autophagy, which is the body cleaning up all of the dead critters and getting rid of stuff. So doesn’t it make sense that when you’re in this intense autophagy process that you would provide your body not only the mineral content, which helps to produce the energy for the autophagy processes, but also the humic, which is the support for the detoxification, the removal from your entire system of all that detrixes?

Like the perfect fasting support. A woman just contacted me. She did water fast. She’s tried to do a water fast in the past, but she’s only been able to do it for four days. And she actually goes through a much longer process, ending with a certain number of days with just water. And I’m not recommending anybody do water fasts unless they’re really doing it with support or knowledge. But she was able to go through six days of doing water fast, and she said she felt incredible. All she did was take the minerals and water.

Kashif Khan

Yes, what do calories provide? A little bit of energy. But if so, if there’s a different way to give yourself that energy, breathing oxygen gives you energy, or your mitochondria convert that oxygen into fuel. And the same thing can be done with minerals. The reason why you’re always hungry and looking for calories is that your food doesn’t have the things and tools that you need to make energy, including minerals. So, speaking of that, I’m fasting today, and I’m about to go take a couple right now.

Caroline Alan

In fact, there’s actually even a term for minerals when people have all those food cravings, and they call it the hidden hunger, which is a cellular craving for minerals.

Kashif Khan

Wow. It makes a lot of sense to push your body. You eat more, and maybe we can find that somewhere, right?

Caroline Alan

Exactly. Exactly. 

Kashif Khan

Meanwhile, you open a box of cookies, right?

Caroline Alan

Sugar, salt. These are great, right?

Kashif Khan

Yes, for sure. So thank you, Caroline. This is awesome. Eye-opening, taking a concept as simple as minerals and understanding how much deeper we need to go, and all these people that are kind of stuck, like I’ve done everything. I’ve tried everything. Why isn’t anything changing? Well, here’s a big WHY for you: Here’s a big answer that maybe you haven’t considered: foundational, fundamental ones. You do it like myself. You might feel entirely different.

Caroline Alan

Yes. Thank you so much for having me, Kashif.

Kashif Khan

It is always a pleasure. Awesome. Always awesome talking to. Thank you again.

Caroline Alan

All right. You take care.