Unlock The 7 Principles To Heal Cancer & Boost Longevity

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Yes, thank you for having me. It is always an honor to see you. Bless your viewers. I know you have a far reach, and I would encourage everyone to share this work that you’re doing because it’s so vitally important, especially now in 2023. What’s to come more than ever? We need to be proactive about our health. And that’s what happened to me—how I had to be proactive when my father, who lived in Houston, Texas, gave me a call. I was already a physician. I was in the surgical world. He says, Son, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I didn’t tell you because I didn’t want you to worry. But I went to a prestigious hospital in Houston, and I got a shot of a hormone blocker for prostate cancer. I’ve never felt this sick in my life. I can’t do this and work further than they want me to. So, can you help me? I’m like, this is my battle with prostate cancer, as I would have imagined. Then that shifted my career to focusing on integrative oncology and not surgery. Thankfully, my dad at that time was in his sixties, which is my age now, and he lived to be 83 and passed away from old age and heart disease. The prostate cancer was resolved. It was cured because it was far beyond the five years with conventional medicines. That is where you can say someone is cured. That was a personal experience that directly influenced my path. However, Dr. Jockers, as important and maybe more important again in the Houston area, I went to a church randomly, and there was a guest minister there, and she prophesied over me, and she said that I would have a healing center, not in the U.S., where many would come from all over the world to find health and healing. It’s just been confirmed time after time. I know you visited our Cancun Center several times and saw what’s happening there, including the power of the mind, the power of the Holy Spirit, the prayer, the worship, and all this, in addition, of course, to the wonderful therapists.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, this is an amazing place. I’m also excited to dive into some of the research that you guys have been doing with surveys and looking at blood markers for inflammation, vitamin D, and things like that because it’s interesting and our audience will get a lot out of that. But before we get into that, I want to jump into the topic of telomeres and how telomeres are connected to aging, longevity, and cancer.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Well, there was a brilliant book some years ago called The Telomere Effect by Blackburn and Epel. Blackburn was a Nobel Prize winner for her work on telomeres, and telomeres are at the end of the chromosome; they’re like the rattles in rattlesnakes. As we age and as people develop chronic diseases, including cancer, these telomeres shorten, and the shorter the telomeres, the shorter our lifespan will be. Cancer patients, without a doubt, have shorter telomeres.  there’s a lot to be said about telomeres, but what’s important is that how we live each day has a profound effect, not just on our health and well-being but also on how we age. So there are actual things that we can do proactively to look good, feel good, and live longer. because that’s what we all want. What’s also interesting is that telomeres are listening. There are dynamic structures at the ends of the chromosomes that are listening. It also brings us to the potential topic of emotions, stress, and childhood trauma. Besides nutrition, of course, exercise, and other habits and toxins that can affect telomeres, there is quite an extensive line of work on telomeres. 

I go to Japan often. I work with some universities and doctors there, and they check the telomeres of the white blood cells because the telomeres of the white blood cells serve as a window into telomere length throughout the body. About eight months ago, I was there, and I had my telomeres checked, and that number, whatever that range is, should be one or above. My number was 1.06, so it’s in a good range. But the doctor said,  this could be better and will get better. I’m doing some therapies and some lifestyle modifications that will improve telomere length. That’s something that all your viewers should focus on, because in this world, as we just said, that we’re living now,  there’s oxidative stress, there’s inflammation, there’s insulin resistance, obesity, all these things that are increasing so much, leading to shortened telomeres.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes.  so the faster your telomeres shorten the hypothesis is that that is going to shorten your lifespan.  so the more that you can preserve your telomere length, the more longevity, and quality of life that you’re going to have as you age and your longevity is going to increase.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Exactly.  It all starts at the cell level. Oftentimes in my line of work, which is oncology, oncologists focus on the organ or the tumor, but that’s the end-stage result of the disease. We have to go back to the cell level. At that cell level, we can make big impacts on the telomere length.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, absolutely.  And what are some of the best strategies? I mean, we think about it, and it was interesting to hear you say that the telomeres are listening to our emotions or listening to things. That’s the way I try to explain nutrition. Nutrition is information that we’re communicating to our body, to the cells of our body, based on the food that we’re eating and the food that we’re not eating the light that we’re being exposed to, or the light that we’re not being exposed to. So all of that, whether we’re eating nutrient-rich food, not eating food, fasting, or eating inflammatory foods, is all a form of communication that we’re giving to those telomeres. That was interesting that you were talking about that and how they’re listening to our emotions. Let’s start with the fact that there are a lot of different things we could do to help improve telomere length. Let’s start with fasting. Has fasting been shown to increase telomere length?

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Well, we know fasting does many things. First of all, it increases autophagy, which is the breakdown, the killing, the die-off of, or damage to, maybe, a precancerous cell. So in my experience, a cancer cell is a normal cell that has become damaged. Then it had a couple of choices. One was apoptosis, killing itself, or programmed cell death. If it isn’t able to kill itself because it’s damaged, then it can repair itself. If that cell couldn’t kill itself or undergo apoptosis, it could even repair itself. then it has no choice but to survive. so it goes rogue. that is a cancer cell. So now we get into the whole story of cancer cells forming primary tumors and then leading to potential metastases. The important thing about this is that if we can, through nutrition and other factors like exercise, release, and stress, get rid of childhood traumas and lengthen those telomeres through fasting, we can do that as well. We can increase autophagy so that those cells will kill themselves. We know that in fasting we also have an upregulation or increase of naturally healthy stem cells so that the stem cells can help repair the regeneration and renewal of tissue. This is so important because, as cells age, they are going to be unhealthy. If you add to the inflammation, it’s a cascade effect. The third major thing that fasting does is that it upregulates the immune system. By upregulating your immune system, you decrease inflammation, which is another culprit in this telomere and longevity world. It’s so important that fasting be incorporated into our lives, whether we have chronic diseases or not. But in chronic disease patients, especially the type of patients that we see in cancer, we have to be a little careful because a lot of these patients are in anorexia; they’re in sarcopenia, meaning muscle breakdown. So at Hope4Cancer, we’re very careful about how we recommend a patient fast.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, because if somebody is in that sarcopenic state, they’re already extremely catabolic and losing weight, so doing something like an intensive fasting regimen would be counterproductive. But also, people are coming in who need to lose weight.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

That’s right.  obesity. I was just reading something that was published outside of the UK just before this. We got on the air here, and it was the Cancer Research Association in the UK, and they said, How can overweight and obesity cause cancer? They talk about fast fat cells, which increase inflammation and make extra hormones and growth factors, which then in turn lead to damaged cells and cells dividing more in the body, which increases the chances of having cancer cells develop in, of course, tumors. That’s a direct correlation between obesity and the formation of cancer cells. It was also interesting that back in 2015, in the journal Cell Metabolism, they did a preclinical data publication where the title was Fasting or Fasting-Mimicking Diets can separate the effects of chemotherapy on normal and cancer cells. a patient that is fasting, intermittent fasting, preferably, and has chemo, the side effects of the chemo are going to be much less; it’s going to improve the response of the chemo itself, and of course, the long-term and overall survival of patients will increase. 

The reason for that is that cancer cells are very fragile. When you put them in a fasting state, the body goes too fast and says these cells are going to be hungry, and then they’re going to open up the receptors—insulin receptors, insulin growth factor-1 receptors—and they’re going to intake the chemotherapy more preferentially than normal cells. So, as we know, the metabolism of sugar in cancer cells is different from that in normal cells. You have a greater impact on cancer cells when someone is fasting during chemotherapy. So, at Hope4Cancer, we do chemotherapy very selectively. We call it insulin-potentiation therapy. and we have our patients fast during this time. But the good news is for your viewers and listeners: if they’re going to chemo, please talk to their integrative doctor or functional doctor about whether they can incorporate fasting while they’re doing conventional therapy because they’re going to have better results.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, for sure. That insulin-potentiated therapy makes it much more specific, especially when you’re fasting, because when you fast, the insulin goes down, so now you have low insulin, and then you put the insulin in. We know that cancer cells have a lot more, like 10 to 50 times more insulin receptors. Insulin is like a key, opening the lock on the cell. Now that insulin is going to the cancer cells, they are looking for insulin. They’re gobbling it up, and that’s opening the door for now for chemotherapy to get into the cancer cell, whereas the normal cells are going to get very little, if any, of that because the cancer cells are gobbling it up. Is that correct? Is that how that works?

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Exactly. Yes, we have a clinical oncologist on staff, and he is a conventional oncologist. Throughout the five years, he’s been so surprised that now, instead of giving 100% of the chemotherapy dose, we give about 30% of the chemotherapy dose. These patients have better results, even with huge breast tumors. Some patients come to us with tumors that are the size of a cauliflower. We’ve always seen a significant reduction, though, in combination with an integrated approach. We could talk later about the seven key principles of cancer therapy that I have developed. Also, these patients with insulin potentiation therapy are not in bed. They’re not having diarrhea or vomiting, and they’re not losing weight. Sometimes their hair falls off because it depends on the type of chemotherapy. Even at a lower dose, that happened. But that’s the least of the concerns because they feel great. They’re walking around or walking on the beach. So it’s beautiful to combine one necessary IPT and three potentiations with fasting and with the seven key principles of cancer therapy.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, I want to go into those seven key principles and fasting. Dr. Thomas Seyfried, I know he’s been doing research out of Boston College with the press pulse strategy or approach, which is you metabolically stress the cancer cells or metabolically press them. Fasting is a great tool for that. That presses, challenges, and stresses those cancer cells. Then you pulse it with oxidative therapies, and chemotherapy will be one of many different types of oxidative therapies. Radiation is another one, but there are also a lot of things you do at your clinic. IV vitamin C, hyperthermia, or hyperbaric oxygen, all of which provide this oxidative dose that damages those cancer cells. The cool thing about a lot of the natural therapies that you guys do, like hyperbaric, is that they are strengthening for normal cells but then toxic for cancer cells.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Exactly. The other one that we use a lot is ozone therapy. We gave ozone rectally, and we also gave it IV, something called ultraviolet blood irradiation. I do that every month at our center because oxidative stress is a normal factor that we have to succumb to and overcome, more importantly.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, and you guys are using it strategically to help get rid of these cancer cells. So it’s really powerful stuff. Let’s go into those. The seven processes that you were talking about.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Yes, the seven key principles of cancer therapy evolved over 30-plus years of working in oncology. I believe that all listeners should follow these seven principles, whether they are diagnosed with cancer, in remission of cancer, or for prevention and wellness. I probably suffered in principle. Number one is nontoxic cancer therapy. For many years, Dr. Jockers, I’ve been wondering, Why should I be doing nontoxic cancer therapies. I’m not diagnosed with cancer. But then it dawned on me because all of us are forming 100–150 cancer cells a day. It’s wise to do nontoxic cancer therapy. Secondly, it’s immunomodulation that’s upregulating your immune system. Because cancer cells are very smart, we can have good white blood cells and good lymphocytes, but the cancer cells can shield or hide themselves from immune recognition. We have to target the immune system in multiple ways because cancer is, as we know, a multifactorial disease, and we have to outsmart cancer. There’s a doctor, Dr. Sledge; he’s at Stanford now. He’s the head of clinical oncology at Stanford, and he was a former head of the American Cancer Society. He said very simply that there are smart cancers and super cancers. 90 plus percent of the cancers are smart cancers. 

We have to have a therapeutic strategy that outsmarts the cancer. This is where the seven key principles come into play. Nontoxic cancer therapy, immunomodulation—the third one is full-spectrum nutrition. You’re a nutrition expert, and I’m sure you and your viewers know so much about this. Detoxification is very important. I always say a negative star can kill you faster than a bad journal. One of the main areas we have to detoxify are our thoughts, conflicts, and traumas in our lives. Don’t forget about detoxing the dental oral terrain, metal fillings, habitations, root canals, and periodontal disease. The next key principle is oxygenation. We know very well that cancer is a low-temperature disease. It’s an acidic disease. It’s an inflammatory disease, and it’s a low-oxygen disease. If we just take those four things and work on increasing our body temperature because most chronically ill patients and cancer patients have a lower than normal body temperature, if we decrease inflammation through things like fasting, if we also improve our immune system, and if we oxygenate and decrease acidity, that’s a great first step. The sixth key principle is restoring the microbiome. Again, that’s not only the gut microbiome. Another one of your areas of expertise, I will say, is the gut-brain connection. I say the gut everything comes back to. 

So, working on that microbiome is so important. Don’t forget that the external microbiome, the skin, and everything that touches the skin are absorbed into the bloodstream and go to the liver, the biggest organ of detoxification. then the last of the seven key principles, which is the most important one. It’s the subject of my next book, coming out in 2024. It’s the emotional and spiritual aspect of cancer. We have a program at Hope4Cancer called the Best Program in Behavioral, Emotional, and Spiritual Therapy. To summarize this, healing is in a downward causation; we have a triangle, and the upper part of that triangle is the spiritual. Then, as we go down, we have the mental and emotional, and at the base of that triangle is the physical. This is the priority and my experience of how here we are happens on a downward causation. Of course, medicine is totally upside down now, isn’t it? It’s all about the body. It’s about treating the tumor in the person, but not the person with the tumor. That entails the 17 principles. I advise every patient to wake up in the morning—all of us. I do it myself. I wake up in the morning, and then I think, What can I do better today of the Seven Principles? Well, I didn’t walk. I didn’t exercise. I didn’t do my deep breathing exercises today. I’m going to step it up with my oxygenation. All right.  So you say your prayer in the morning, thank God for another day, and then think, What can I do better today? That’ll get you far because at the end of the year, you’ve done a lot for your health.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, for sure. That’s a great mindset. They say a journey of a thousand miles begins with a footstep. You’re taking the next step forward and doing that every single day. I know you go through those seven principles in detail in your first book, Hope4Cancer, which people can get, and we’ll have a link for it. Great book, Hope4Cancer. Just like his clinic hope and then the number-four cancer, so will powerful stuff. Now I want to transition to some of the studies that you guys are doing. For those who are watching on video, I’m going to put this up and get a screen share here.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

As you put this up, Dr. Jockers, we have a research and education team effort for cancer, and this is so important for all of us that are in this field of integrative, holistic, integrative alternative healing because we need this information to present to the world. We’re not quacks. We have good data. So we developed a research and education team, and now we’ve done some interesting data analysis. We have a double PhD as the head of our R&D team. I challenge all the viewers that are in the health field to collect and analyze data, and why not even publish it? Because of the powers to be and the conventional oncology world, we need this to present and support what we do. So this particular one is on blood glucose levels in our patients and Hope4Cancer. The reason for that is that, if we mention obesity, we know that cancer cells utilize glucose in a different way than normal cells. So this is what we’re seeing in this graph: access to sugar or glucose to fuel cancer cells, which is why maintaining optimal concentrations—and that’s the key word here—is optimal because it’s not that if we stop all sugar, we’re going to kill cancer. That’s not true, because then cancer cells will go and feed on proteins. 

If we stop sugars, we stop proteins, and cancer cells are going to feed on fats. if we start to stop sugar, proteins, and fat we lose because we don’t have nutrients. So it’s about the bad sugars. I call them the right spin sugars for the process—refined sugars. Cancer cells preferentially absorb bad sugars, and refined sugars. all the sugars in the things that we know and the foods that we know that we shouldn’t consume. That’s what this slide is about. The next slide talks about what we found in 200 patients from 2021 to 2022. We saw that 86% of the patients were in the 60–100 range. 13% were above 100. Ideally, what we want is for the blood sugar to be below 80, preferably 70 to 75. In the next slide, we’re going to further break that into what we consider high-risk optimal. That’s what I was saying: 80 to 400 milligrams per deciliter of fast blood sugar, which was 65% of our patients. These patients are at risk, but conventional medicine considers this normal. When you get above 100 milligrams per deciliter, then they’ll say, Okay, now you’re prediabetic. so that comes into another world. Only 21% of the patients were in the optimal range of 60 to 80. We looked at the next slide, and then we broke it down. Well, that was it. I thought there was one more example: tourism. Here we see in this slide that we need to work out the fasting blood sugar, and we want that to be 60 to 80 milligrams per deciliter.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

I’d be interested in Dr. Tony because, as you guys were to look at it fast, I know it’s because you had to do more of a blood draw. Fasting blood glucose is just like a prick on a little blood monitor. But I would be interested to see fasting insulin as well, because somebody could have normalized blood sugar but have high insulin, or they could have blood sugar. It’s not; it may be at risk, like in the 80 to 100 range, but then have low insulin. So putting those two together could give you even more data.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Yes.  That one’s a work in progress. We do monitor insulin levels in our patients. We’re also looking at the insulin resistance factor. We’re looking at hemoglobin a1c, so hopefully, in another event with you, we could prevent that data.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, I’d be interested to see that for sure.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Then, as we mentioned, inflammation is one of the three cell enemies of shortening telomeres and cancer. One is oxidative stress; the other is insulin resistance, which we just mentioned; and the third is inflammation. We took a look at inflammation and we have some data, but here we see how chronic inflammation can lead to a cascade of different problems, such as autoimmune disease, cancer, and cardiovascular disease, which is the number one cause of death in the world, and for sure, in the US, cardiovascular diseases are second, with cancer being the second one. You see that inflammation because it shortens telomeres, which reduces chronic diseases and also decreases longevity. In the next slide, we mentioned that we track chronic inflammation biomarkers as indirect indicators of immune dysregulation and cancer progression. We did an internal study, and we found that most of our patients, especially those with advanced-stage cancer, have above-normal levels of ultrasensitivity. C-reactive protein. 

This is a protein that is released by the liver in an acute stress situation. Here we looked at 126 patients of all stages of cancer who were admitted to Hope4Cancer, of course, and 69% had mild to severe inflammatory conditions. That was 87 of the 126 patients with C-reactive protein. We also measured said rate in this study. We looked at celiac protein, and in the next slide, we broke it down into stage four cancer. Of those total patients, 82 were in stage four, and here the percentage is even higher; 74% showed above-normal C-reactive protein, a mild to excessive inflammatory condition. This is in direct correlation with what the literature shows because we’re doctors, we’re in the so-called lion’s den, we’re clinicians, and we’re treating patients every day. We’ve been doing this for many years. So having this data to collaborate with some published studies from the clinical setting is so important. As we’re tying all this together, we look at another characteristic of cancer: blood flow to the tumor, because one of the hallmarks of cancer is that it means what we call angiogenesis, which increases blood flow. When there’s increased blood flow, then that score gets more nutrients and can detox, grow, progress, and metastasize easily. Here, we looked at 195 patients between the years of 2018 and 2019. This is one that happened at baseline. Then, after three weeks of treatment at home for cancer, we saw that 80% of the patients who came in with normal or no excess blood flow to their tumors stayed that way. and/or decrease. Only 20% of patients had increased blood flow during the three weeks. We might say, Well, why is this our challenge as great as the two doctors you’ve interviewed for Cancer Center? In conclusion, 70+ percent of our patients have failed all conventional therapy, so literally, they fail chemo, radiation, surgery, and oftentimes the newer immunotherapy and gene-targeted therapies. There’s a lot of inflammation, a lot of acidity, a lot of trauma, and a lot of emotional conflict there. They see themselves oftentimes on a path, and they’re not victorious on top of the summit. and so increased blood flow is sometimes more difficult.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Dr. Tony, what you’re saying is that seven out of ten people, ten people come, seven of them have already been through a lot of conventional treatment, chemo, radiation.  the doctors are not giving them a good prognosis and saying there’s not much more we can do for you. Then there are maybe three out of ten that are more in the earlier stages. Maybe they were diagnosed and they decided they wanted to do natural research and they found you.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

And what’s good about this is that it used to be even higher. 90% of our patients were in those situations. People all over the world are becoming more aware. This COVID situation has increased awareness. So that’s what’s improving. But that’s right. Decreased blood flow is a major factor in stopping tumor progression and having favorable outcomes. It just shows maybe a little too much to talk about individually. But here we broke it down into tumor types: breast cancer, pancreatic cancer, lung cancer, and ovarian cancer. We see that what we showed in the previous slide was that they stayed normal, the ones that had no increased blood flow, and then the decreased blood flow, especially in the blue, is the decreased blood flow. We see that a lot in endometrial cancer, by the way. We’re having good results in pancreatic cancer, which is one of the toughest cancers to treat and a cancer that is on the rise. A lot has to do with nutritional factors, traumas, and stress. 

The last study I want to show, which is very important, is the vitamin D study because we know that decreased vitamin D is associated with inflammation and a decreased immune system. Many studies have been done. Now, if we have vitamin D in an optimal range, we’re going to live longer. We’re going to live healthier. And back to the telomeres. The telomeres will be longer. Here, we see that in all stages of cancer. This is 139 patients. We see vitamin D levels measured in blood in nanograms per millimeter. We have 62% of patients that have suboptimal vitamin D. There is a little bit of a misconception or a gray zone with different thoughts on what the ideal level of vitamin D should be in the blood. In my clinical experience, it should be between 80 and 100 nanograms per milliliter, and so 62% of our patients are below that ideal level. If we have 7%, that’s even more of a factor here. The next slide will show the range. This is also specifically for stage 4 cancer patients. As you can see there, 67% of them were quite low, as low as less than 30 we’ve had in some patients whose vitamin D blood level was 18. This is not compatible with a favorable outcome in cancer. Please, everyone, make sure that your doctor is checking your vitamin D levels. You’re supplementing with good-quality vitamin D. If we could get LIPOSOMAL, that would be ideal.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Dr. Tony, I would guess that the ones that are not low have been supplementing for some time.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

That’s right.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Because a lot of people come to you, and they already have some natural health research in there. They realize vitamin D is important because I doubt that these stage four patients have had enough vitamin D sufficiency for a long time. Well, some recently got there, which is great. That’s why they should be doing that. But most likely, they spent the majority of their lives deficient.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

That’s right.  We did a study, and I’ll say it briefly: we did a study where patients who came to us who only received conventional therapy, those who did nothing, those who only received alternative or holistic therapy, and those who did both had better outcomes because they had less tumor load. As you said, even though they were doing some conventional therapy, they were taking supplements; they were treating the hyperthermia of some of them, hyperbaric, attrition, and so forth. That’s right on target. What you said.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

It would be interesting if they did this same test at a conventional clinic; the number of people with vitamin D deficiency would probably be much higher. probably 95 plus percent.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

That’s right. Yes. Then, in the next slide, we go into earlier-stage cancers, and we tend to see their vitamin D levels being a bit better as well. There is a correlation between later-stage cancers, as you just mentioned, the progression of disease, and a lower vitamin D level. I remember one patient having 80 nanograms per milliliter. Very deficient.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

I’ve seen people. I’ve seen people between the ages of six and seven who have autoimmune fibromyalgia. There are different issues like that. Yes.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

This is not only cancer, folks. This is a real disease. and we should all have our vitamin D levels checked and supplemented. To put all this together, Dr. Jockers, we then did a quality-of-life analysis, which is the next slide. This is the data that we collected this year, in 2023. If we look at the next slide, what we did was assess five quality of life parameters: functional, emotional, and cognitive self-perceptions of how they thought their quality of life was. Then we looked at the composite score of quality of life. The reason that this is important is because if we live another day or another 50 years, we want to live the best quality of life, and then, as you can see here, 76% of our OR patients are of advanced age. So, 86% of the patients within the first three weeks of treatment have an improvement in their functional status, 89% in their emotional, 92% cognitively and overall, and 88 and 93% improvement in quality of life. This is huge because what this is doing does great things for their faith, their hope, their confidence, and their ability to go back home and continue with the robust home program that they will be doing while they’re home post-treatment at Hope4Cancer Center. It’s very important to maximize the quality of life. I think Dr. Jockers and everyone agree with the whole paradigm that you have to feel worse before feeling better. I don’t know. I don’t agree with that anymore. I believe that even with our cancer therapies, look at this: patients are having a better quality of life. Why? Because, in addition to the nontoxic anti-cancer therapy, we’re following those principles. We’re oxygenating, detoxing, nutrition, and so forth. It’s a beautiful combination of addressing cancer and, at the same time, improving quality of life.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes, I love it. Nine out of ten are seeing great changes within three weeks, just in how they feel overall, cognitively, and mentally. great stuff.  Again, you’re taking very complex, hard cases that many of them, like we said, 70% have, in a sense, the medical system has more or less given up on them.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

That’s right. Yes. So it’s beautiful when we see those results, and education is so key because you mentioned my book and you have a lot of work to do. People should avail themselves of it because we can’t wait for tomorrow. The statistics on cancer are here. We are hearing some statistics on cancer. We know that one in every two men will have cancer sometime in their lifetime. One out of every three females in the U.S. will have cancer sometime in their lifetime. It is being published. Some journals now say that by 2030 or 2035, everyone in the U.S. will have cancer sometime in their lifetime, and that excludes skin cancers. Here is what our statistics are: when we did five-year survival data, which is considered the cream of the crop, and if we could go back to the previous slide, we looked up well, yes, we use either one here. Here, we looked at our two centers that can call in Tijuana, and then the seer data is blue. That’s the light blue. That’s the NCI data, the National Cancer Institute data on survival epidemiology, and the end-stage result data. You see, for example, that in our five-year survival, our integrative approach is quite fascinating, especially because one thing that we need to realize here is that our data is stage four, metastatic cancer, and the SEER data is stage one, two, and some stage three. They don’t include stage four, plus their data starts when the patient is diagnosed with cancer, when they have that little tool, or wherever it is. As we said, 70 to 76% of the patients have already failed everything. If you see pancreatic cancer, we’re at 31% in our Cancun center. This is very beautiful.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

You’re already playing at a big disadvantage. It’s not testing apples for apples. But it’s everything that’s weighted against you, and you’re still seeing great results. I see that lung cancer has a 31% five-year survival rate in the conventional setting. You guys are getting late-stage, and you’re getting a 50% survival rate here.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

I want to clarify something. It was my mistake. Dr. Jockers, this is one-year survival. This is a longitudinal study of one year. What was interesting is that I was taking a flight from Atlanta, your hometown, to Boston, and the head of a big center in Boston was sitting next to me, and she was conventionally medically trained. She said, “Dr. Tony, all you have to do is do a longitudinal study that showed three months of survival.” I said, “No, we’ll do a longitudinal study that showed a one-year survival rate.” So we did that. That’s how she said that this is the cream of the crop study if we do a longitudinal study. So we did that now.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Yes. Wonderful.  You guys are also seeing great results from pancreatic cancer. I see that. Good stuff here. Yes. Well, great. Dr. Tony, I mean, this is fantastic data. I am glad that you guys are doing this, and you guys are just helping so many people out there. So let’s finish with some words of inspiration for our audience. We’re talking about some things. Where should they start when it comes to looking at their overall health? And some words of inspiration for us here.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Yes. First of all, there is always hope. No one can take the hope away from you. Don’t let your oncologist, when he gives cures, give his prognosis. We had a patient that came to us and said, Dr. Tony, I have a month to live. I said, Why is that? He said, Well, five months ago, my oncologist said that I have six months to live. So I didn’t rush to get a vitamin C drip or do a hyperbaric. The first thing I had to do was change that mindset, so we did that. Thankfully, that patient lived a long life. I mean, he’s still alive. That’s number one: hope and faith. Faith, as they say, can move mountains. I’ve seen it over and over and over again. I learned this lesson as a young doctor: if you are spirit-based, you have faith, as opposed to not, and you will do better. As humans, it’s a lot for us to carry a lot of weight on our shoulders, too. Leave it with God.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Leave it to the Creator to carry that burden for you. I always say, Dr. Jockers, that there are three elements of success in everything that we do. Number one is to focus—to have that sharp focus on what your tasks are and what you need to do either to stay healthy or to regain your health. Number two is to practice. As we know, practice makes perfect. So daily, practice that, and then you will overcome. Then the clue to focus and practice is consistency. We need to be concise, often over time, and this is when we will see great results. I can tell you from many thousands and thousands of patients, not only in Mexico, but I traveled the world, and there I’ve seen stage four. We have a patient now with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. They gave him two weeks to live. He’s in the Lubbock, Texas, area. He is now in his twentieth month. He’s mountain biking. and he’s not out of the woods completely, but he’s riding his mountain bike three times a week. He’s okay, 20 months later. So that’s very important. I want to maybe wrap it up by saying I’m a naturopathic doctor. 

So in naturopathic medicine, we have something called the Therapeutic Order of Healing. The first is to remove obstacles to health or obstacles to cure. What are your obstacles to health? Is it a poor diet? Is it negative thoughts? Is this a childhood trauma? Is it a lack of exercise? Is it sleep deprivation? What is it? We need to remove those obstacles to help the cure. Number two is to stimulate the body’s self-healing mechanisms. Our body is so wonderfully creative that it could heal itself. Let’s stimulate that by correcting the things that we need to correct, removing toxins, and having healthy relationships. Then number three, in the therapeutic order of healing, is stimulating the weakened systems of the body. Today, we focus a bit on inflammation. We focus on the short and telomere, the immune system, the toxicities, and the gut health. Let’s stimulate those weakening systems in the body. Then number four, and you’ll like this as a chiropractor, Dr. Jockers is correcting structural integrity—your posture, the myofascial, all that—to things like acupuncture, acupressure, chiropractic adjustment, and correcting the outlets more than I do about this. all those things, a good position. 

Now, with cell phones and all these things, it’s become a problem, and that’s a therapeutic feeling. I want to encourage all of you that no matter what stage of cancer you are in, and most importantly if you’re in remission, don’t take that for granted. Once we’re on this mission and path of healing and health, it’s a lifestyle; this is not like, “Oh, I have to eat healthy.” Someone asked me, “How long do they eat healthy?” Well, first of all, I hope all of you are healthy every day. Those are my words of wisdom from so many years in the trenches, as they say. The best thing is hope, faith, love, generosity, and never giving up. You can do well. I’ve seen it. I just encourage you to follow what you’ve learned with Dr. Jockers, and his work offers cancer-saving principles to improve and empower your healing journey, as some people call it. The Bible to Integrative Health. Because it’s not something that you necessarily have to go to a treatment center for, but it’s practical. You can start today with those seven key principles.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Well, wonderful. Dr. Tony, you’re doing God’s work. Thanks so much for taking the time to speak with us today. For those out there, if anybody has a family member or maybe personally is suffering from cancer, share this interview with them. Check out Hope4Cancer in Cancun. There are two spots in Mexico, Cancun, and Tijuana, and they’re just great clinics. There is hope. Check out Dr. Tony’s book as well. As he mentioned before, Hope4Cancer’s seven principles remove fear and empower your healing journey. There it is.

Antonio Jimenez, MD, ND

Out there it is.

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Well, thanks again, Dr. Tony. God bless you. We will see you all in a future interview. Be blessed, everybody.