Full Transcript Opening and longevity introduction 0:00 I used to tell women, 0:01 be grateful that you live in a country, that that we can do that. 0:05 Use an epidural and I can put a little bikini cut in you, and I can take this 0:09 8 pound baby out, and it's okay that you don't deliver vaginally. 0:13 And women could not come to grips with that. 0:15 They would cry capable of a C-section. 0:17 So they would feel like if they if they don't squat in the bush 0:20 and have their baby, that there's a problem 0:23 and there's a little bit of that in the menopause, aging space 0:28 like, I'd get a medal if I go through it without anything. 0:33 And and I think there's a double whammy with that, because as a 60 year old, 0:38 you don't know when you're 50, what it's like to be 60. 0:42 And there really big changes that happen. 0:44 So you're still kind of feeling somewhat reasonable. 0:47 Or maybe you're like, 0:48 yeah, I've got these cognitive changes, but I'm getting a little older, 0:51 but I'm going to push through it and I'm gonna push through those flashes. 0:54 But you don't realize that what's happening is, is that you have 0:59 estrogen receptors in your blood vessels. 1:02 So you are getting hardening of the arteries and decreasing 1:05 blood flow to all your organs. 1:08 Welcome to Doctor Talks, the podcast where every episode leads to a healthier you. 1:13 Join us as we navigate the world of optimal health, 1:16 uncovering groundbreaking strategies to conquer chronic disease. 1:20 In each episode, we'll bring you the latest insights 1:23 from leading health experts, medical innovators, and wellness warriors. 1:27 If you're seeking to transform your health journey, or if you're looking 1:30 for answers to burning questions, you've come to the right place. 1:34 Get ready to unlock the secrets of lifelong health and vitality. 1:38 This is Doctor Talks, 1:40 real talk from real doctors on the issues that matter to you most. 1:52 Hi everyone 1:53 and welcome back to Rad Cast, where the future of health, science 1:56 and human potential converge to inspire a longer, better life. 2:00 I'm your host, doctor Melissa Carol Peterson, and today's guest 2:04 is not just advancing the science of longevity. 2:07 She's rewriting the rules on what's possible. 2:10 You are going to love her. 2:12 Doctor Diane Ginsburg is a board certified ob gyn 2:15 and a globally recognized leader in anti-aging medicine. 2:19 As the principal investigator of two IRB approved young plasma studies. 2:23 She's on the front lines of exploring how young sex identified 2:27 plasma infusions can significantly reduce the pace of aging 2:31 and transform outcomes in neurodegenerative conditions like Ms. 2:35 and Parkinson's. 2:36 With a powerful blend of clinical excellence, cutting edge 2:40 research, and a personal commitment to peak performance. 2:43 She's an Ironman athlete, by the way, and you're going to find out 2:46 about her Spartan path right now, so get ready. 2:48 She is the hormone optimization expert and so much more. 2:52 Doctor Ginsburg brings both the science and the soul 2:55 of regenerative medicine to life, and we are going to get into it today. 2:59 Doc, welcome to Rad cast.
Hormones, menopause, and aging 3:02 Thank you so much for a lovely intro. Thank you. 3:04 Oh my gosh, you're a dynamo. 3:06 Like, I was so excited to get to have this conversation today and so, you know 3:10 here's just a little behind the curtain peek everybody. 3:13 Doctor Diane and I have been chatting for about the past 20 minutes, 3:16 and I'm just like, oh my gosh, this woman is like my soul sister. 3:21 She is just going to bring it today. 3:23 She is a truth teller and she is dedicated to just really 3:27 having an honest conversation about what is possible from the here 3:31 and now, to really create the future 3:33 and the lives of our dreams in the healthiest expression. 3:35 So doc, gosh, there are so many places I want to go today. 3:40 Is there a place you want to jump into first? 3:43 I've got questions. 3:44 I do, but I just figure, like, 3:45 is there a place like you just want to jump right 3:47 in, or you just want me to ask you what I got to ask you? 3:49 So, so a little bit, maybe kind of for people to think about. 3:54 I deal mostly with women. 3:56 So, so my, my background came from actually delivering 4:00 to kids with learning differences. 4:01 So that kind of got me into functional medicine 4:03 and understanding how you can change the brain. 4:06 They told me my one of my kids would never talk of all kinds of problems. 4:09 Meanwhile one is a doctor and the other just graduated with his master's. 4:12 So I learned how flexible the body is, 4:16 and then we see infertility right through my whole career 4:20 that all of a sudden then you can have a baby. 4:21 And then what started to happen is right, women hit menopause 4:25 and they're miserable. 4:26 They don't feel good. 4:27 And now we know the benefits of hormone replacement therapy. 4:30 And one of the sad things right about it 4:32 is, is that the Women's Health Initiative came out in 2002. 4:35 Women threw their hormones away so they were miserable and were seeing, 4:39 I think, some of the negative side effects of that. Right. 4:41 The women that are in their 70s and 80s had Alzheimer's and Parkinson's 4:45 and all kinds of neurodegenerative diseases. 4:47 So, so we don't want that for a future. 4:50 We don't want that for us, and we don't want that for our kids. 4:52 There's a big motivation, right, that if the aging population 4:56 doesn't have some thing done 4:59 to keep them healthy, it's not just about longevity, 5:03 but it's about building a healthy longevity. 5:06 If we don't take them step by step through that, my kids can't afford to 5:10 to take care of us. 5:11 So what what I, what we trying to do in research from 5:16 what do you do practical tomorrow that is in the MD medical 5:22 okay I can do world not just on the research bench too. 5:26 What do we have available in our transition therapies for longevity. 5:30 And then let's keep everybody healthy till we can get down that road. 5:34 And that's where a lot of the hormone balance meets nutrient balance. 5:39 Need to microbiome that everybody talks about leads 5:42 into young plasma therapy. 5:45 That is plasma is approved by the FDA. 5:49 We hang it all the time in the hospital. 5:51 It's got rejuvenating factors in it. 5:54 And and what can we do to people for people 5:57 that can get that therapy to them? 6:01 Reasonable, easy to really help 6:04 them never get into to any kind of the chronic disease trouble. 6:08 I love it. 6:09 So hopefully what you all just heard is we are going to go on a journey today. 6:12 And I think one of the things that you just said, doc, that is so important 6:16 is it actually begins right here, right now with understanding how flexible 6:20 and how miraculous the human body actually is. 6:24 And so it just brings to mind the story of Roger Bannister. 6:28 You know, everybody said for a minute, mile couldn't be done. 6:31 And he's like, yes, it can. And I'm going to show you it can. 6:33 In essence, that's the short version, right? 6:35 And I call it it's when the impossible becomes possible. 6:38 It's the same thing of how do we how do we currently view aging? 6:42 We all hold a belief system about it, whether we mean to or not. 6:45 It's programed in, in the unconscious. 6:48 And so when 6:49 we can shine a light on something and we can all of a sudden question it, 6:52 so you question well I'm do I have to accept that 6:55 this is what the fate of my son's health is going to be? 6:57 No, I do not. 6:58 Let me see what else could be possible. 7:00 So I really first and foremost want to applaud you. 7:04 I want to invite each and every listener today 7:07 to let's call in, in this moment, 7:10 the power of curiosity, of potential and possibility, 7:14 and to be willing to be flexible, because from this place, right. 7:18 It's not about to your point, there's lots of cool stuff coming. 7:21 And we're going to talk about that today. 7:23 Yeah. 7:23 If we start right now and just be willing to open ourselves to maybe learning 7:28 something new and to be reminded of maybe some things that we have forgotten, 7:33 what could we shift in our health and in the quality of our life? 7:37 And, and so let's dive in for a moment. 7:41 The hormones, because those are really powerful 7:45 signaling molecules in the body, and they shift as we age. 7:49 And you said something else really interesting that, 7:52 you know, women, when they get to menopause, 7:54 they lose their hormones and they're miserable. 7:56 And now, because of the what happened 7:57 with the Women's Health Initiative in 2002, we're seeing our our parents, 8:01 our grandparents in their 70s, in their 80s in decline. 8:05 And could that have been prevented? 8:07 So let's let's just have hormones 101 talk to us 8:11 about why our hormones matter, what they are for our listening audience. 8:15 And, and then we're going to take a journey with that. 8:18 So the, the literature will tell you. Yes. 8:21 That, that when they compared women that took hormones 8:23 versus women that didn't, there's less Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. 8:27 I mean, that's that's a fact. 8:28 And here's a way that's really easy to think about that 8:31 I've I've kind of put together you you're as long as your body's expanding 8:37 when you're growing, whatever you believe about aging, 8:41 there is a component of physics that affects us. 8:44 Right? 8:44 I always say, if I could keep my car really, really clean, 8:47 does that mean I would never need to buy a new car? No. 8:50 Even if you sit in the garage and you clean it up, 8:53 the molecules are just going to kind of wear themselves down. 8:58 So as the body expands or growth, 9:01 we we don't really age, right? 9:05 We may go around the sun more, but our body expands so we don't break 9:08 down as well. 9:09 Once we stop growing, we sort of flatline a little more. 9:13 And Paleolithic times, 9:14 that would be perfect because we would procreate at around 40. 9:18 I tell everybody to think of the corners of your house. 9:22 The dust starts to collect, right? 9:24 The little dust bunnies start to pick up. 9:26 And that's what happens in the body. 9:28 The microbiome diversity starts to go down. 9:31 The ability of the smaller peptides 9:35 and hormones to be produced, they can't quite be made as well. 9:39 The system starts to be less efficient 9:42 as you get through your 40s, especially for women. 9:45 Now, the ovarian ability to generate 9:50 estrogen, paired with the connections 9:54 that are there that the it's like your your cell phone. 9:57 As it gets older, the software doesn't talk to the sky anymore 10:03 and you can't quite get the app you wanted to get. 10:05 It doesn't download as fast. 10:07 That's really what happens. 10:09 And we call that perimenopause. 10:11 And men actually have a little bit of that too. 10:13 There is a testes brain connection. 10:16 So the ability of the machine to talk to each other, it falls apart. 10:22 The number one thing that is falling apart in 10:25 that is vascular parity is your blood vessels. 10:28 So when you lose vascular parity 10:30 and flow everywhere, you lose tissue optimization. 10:34 You lose your ability to support your system. 10:37 So then what happens with women, especially now as we get into our mid 40s, 10:43 the dust bunnies get bigger, the brain and blood flow changes 10:47 and we start to see cognitive changes even before hormones drop. 10:52 Now, as the ovary starts to fail and the connection gets worse 10:56 and the over says, I don't feel like working today. 10:59 What then happens is, is that the brain doesn't get as much estrogen 11:04 and it doesn't burn glucose as well. 11:07 And the burning glucose is actually 11:09 what keeps your bioenergetics of your brain working. 11:13 So now estrogen drops, you don't burn the glucose, 11:17 you start burning fat and you actually burn the fat that's in your brain. 11:20 So it's kind of creepy. 11:21 There's a study that I read that said, you know, the brain compensates 11:26 for changes in hormones that says your brain shrinks. 11:29 Most of us would argue, I probably don't want that. 11:31 I don't want my blood vessels to shrink, and I don't want my brain to shrink. 11:35 So what then? 11:36 Now, as you get into the 50s, the ability of the system 11:40 to just organize itself doesn't work. 11:43 To create the energetics doesn't work. 11:46 And that's where replacing your estrogen and progesterone, you can do 11:51 plasma removal, plasmapheresis where they remove it. 11:55 You can eat right. 11:56 You can exercise. 11:57 I do all of that. 11:58 Your hormones are still going. 12:01 They're gone. Right. 12:02 There's a there's a law of physics that just drops it all down. 12:07 And that's where replacement comes in. 12:09 Bioidentical approach rate hormones. 12:11 All the old studies were done on prem which is worse. 12:15 Pee and fake progestin adding back estradiol I add back in 12:21 women S3 all which is probably could be a whole conversation on its own. 12:25 It is. 12:26 The Austrian is the number one hormone that is used in the mitochondria to run 12:30 your brain can't turn the electricity on, brain doesn't work. 12:33 And then adding back real progesterone. 12:36 No matter how many times you try to keep yourself 12:39 healthy, you're going to have to add that back. 12:41 So now we're paralleling and we're not going down the hill as fast. 12:46 Now we're already adding longevity. 12:49 Yeah. What happens right. 12:50 Your exercise your focus. 12:52 You can do that because you feel better with your hormones. 12:55 The longevity revolution is about more than just searching online for a few hacks 12:59 or any one of us moving our biomarkers in the right direction.
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The hormones naturally decline. 13:58 Let's speak to the women out there who have breast cancer, 14:02 who have gone through 14:03 and they have been told repeatedly by their oncologist, even by their ob gyn, 14:07 it is not safe and appropriate for you to go on to bioidentical hormones. 14:12 What do they do? 14:13 What are you what's your thought on that? Is that actually accurate? 14:16 How do we support that population of women? 14:19 I would read, Avram Blum's book 14:22 every, blood in my energy called estrogen matters. 14:27 He is an oncology artist whose wife developed breast cancer. He. 14:30 It's a wonderful book. 14:31 It's an easy read. It's on Amazon. 14:34 And, he's on podcasts all over, and he will tell you that. 14:38 And there was a big quote that he has that, that shed that 14:43 if women and it makes logical sense and we don't think about it, 14:46 if estrogen causes breast cancer, then the number one group of women 14:51 getting breast cancer should be in their 40s, 14:54 because you become estrogen dominant with this crazy roller 14:58 coaster of estrogen before your ovary fails. 15:03 So if anybody was going to get breast cancer, 15:06 women in their 40s should be the number one group. 15:09 And then what you should see is that the estrogen positive 15:13 breast cancers should disappear in the 60s and 70s. 15:18 And they don't the numbers don't drop. 15:20 So Doctor Blooming will tell you statistically there's so many benefits. 15:25 They used to use estrogen to treat breast cancer. 15:28 There's also if you look online and you look up some of his information, 15:33 there's a great article he wrote where you can see that 15:36 hormone replacement elevated till like 2002 15:40 when the study came out and breast cancer started to was rising all along. 15:45 And I can tell you 15:45 I think breast cancer was rising in women with genetics meets bad gut. 15:49 Can't talk about estrogen. 15:51 So your your system gets dysregulated and then boom the cancer grows. 15:56 But then everybody threw their hormones out. 15:59 So it's now only like 3% of the country is taking hormones. 16:04 Why didn't breast cancer go down. 16:05 It doesn't. It's still elevating. 16:07 So blooming. 16:09 And what I tell my patients is I give them my time to read that book 16:12 and I tell them 16:13 to, you know, get comfortable with and ask me any questions you have. 16:17 But I have a bunch of people in my practice 16:18 with breast cancer that I tell them, take hormones 16:21 because the negative that's going to come along with it. 16:23 If you work on your microbiome and you keep your gut clean 16:26 and you make sure your detox is working well, 16:28 and you get your sunshine and you get your exercise, 16:31 and then you take your hormones, which now we're going to enable you to sleep 16:35 and do all those other things. 16:37 I, I follow the oncologist and I'm not against taking 16:40 bioidentical hormones and S3. 16:43 All is very protective. 16:45 It's immune modulating. It's very protective. 16:47 Anybody that says it's just in pregnancy is completely wrong. 16:51 Look at the data. 16:53 Show that they used it in MST. 16:54 So we give 16:55 when I give bioidentical hormones back I always make sure that they have 16:59 a little more history. 16:59 All that their ratio is a little higher with it's trial. 17:03 So it's protective. 17:04 And my patients do very, very well. 17:06 And that's what's going to give them longevity. 17:08 Are you ready to redefine 17:10 aging and unlock your full potential as a longevity leader? 17:14 At the Human Longevity Institute, our world class certification programs 17:19 train doctors, coaches and wellness professionals how to deliver cutting edge, 17:24 integrative longevity health solutions so people can live better today 17:28 for longer, healthier, and more vibrant tomorrows. 17:32 If you're ready to join the Longevity Revolution, visit Human 17:35 Longevity institute.com to enroll and become a practitioner. 17:40 Today. 17:42 Yeah, I love that. 17:43 I love that you do that. 17:44 And I don't think that really is spoken about enough. 17:47 Everybody talks about estradiol, but that really is is the protective. 17:52 It is. It's the it's amazing. 17:54 So that's exciting. 17:55 Now you did just say something though about that 17:57 I want to pass out for our listeners is bad. 18:01 Got you got it. 18:02 Like if we are not right like if we don't have a healthy microbiome, 18:07 we are already we're not going to be able to properly detox the metabolize 18:11 those hormones. 18:11 Talk about that process a little bit so people can have greater clarity. 18:15 So so your your system has right your esophagus which feeds into your stomach. 18:21 Your stomach has a little bit of H. Pylori. 18:23 So yes it's actually there that people go oh I've H pylori. 18:26 It's a problem. 18:27 No you have H pylori. 18:28 It's the overgrowth that's a problem. 18:30 So the pylori keeps the stomach acid where it needs to be feeds 18:34 into the small intestine which has a handful of lactobacillus in it. 18:38 And then the trillions and trillions of bugs are in the colon. 18:42 Right. That's the gut. 18:43 When we talk about that, there's there's I think the microbiome biologists 18:46 will tell you there's like 2 trillion bugs with about 2000 varieties. 18:50 The number one thing that is going to keep you healthy is microbiome diversity. 18:55 The more different bugs you have, the better you'll be. 18:58 Why it's nutrition is a really another interesting book called 19:02 Burn Burn, written by Herman Ponce Ponte. 19:06 And he's an anthropologist. 19:08 Great book, where he lived with the Hausa, the hunter gatherers. 19:12 And in the book he's talking about the efficiency of the system. 19:15 And he brings up Michael Phelps. 19:16 And he says one of the reasons they think Michael Phelps was such a great swimmer 19:20 wasn't just his muscle, but they think he had a bigger, more like 19:24 developed gut than the average person so he could absorb more nutrients. 19:28 He could recover better, he could detox better. 19:31 So it's really his gut that won the Olympics 19:35 on top of the muscle, which differentiated him from everybody. 19:39 Well, the problem with aging is the bugs 19:42 leave and women take a bigger hit 19:45 because the bugs eat is fragile and then they need Castrol. 19:50 An extra oil actually keeps your gut lining intact. 19:54 So Mother Nature is really smart, right? 19:57 Caveman times, you come out of the I can have a baby tent 20:01 because you can't have a baby anymore. 20:03 You go into the grandma tent and we call that the grandmother hypothesis. 20:07 So they fed you a little bit because you watch the kids, but the gut 20:11 bugs left, so your estradiol wasn't made, so your gut broke down. 20:16 She got more leaky gut, more inflammation and more brain problems. 20:20 And Mother Nature took you out before the next crew came out of that tent. 20:24 So now when you're starting to create longevity, you have to say, okay, 20:28 what are the things I can do 20:30 that are going to give me back more microbiome diversity? 20:33 The more different plants you eat? 20:35 Women take estrogen, your estradiol, as your progesterone men. 20:39 Make sure your testosterone is good. 20:41 Do your lifting resistance training that keeps your other, 20:44 proteins and peptides elevated. 20:47 The young plasma rex studies have shown that when you give young factors 20:52 to old rats, their microbiome reverts to a younger age. 20:57 The diversity that I had heard about that's super interesting 100%.
Gut health, microbiome, and hormone detox 21:02 That's why it works. 21:03 Okay, so so let's fast forward into all of your work with Young Plasma. 21:08 And I want to we're going to keep connecting dots. 21:10 So everybody stay with us. 21:11 You know what happens when we get into our containers? 21:13 We just it's like, hold on tight. 21:14 We're going to talk about all the things. 21:16 And I do want to make sure we come back to masculinity. 21:19 Like that's also, again, a foundational concept that we need to to talk about. 21:23 But let's let's fast forward. 21:24 So all of a sudden we know we need a the the bugs leave as we chronologically age. 21:30 And then that's going to further impair 21:32 and lower our hormones, especially as women. 21:34 And and it's going to create a whole host of issues 21:37 of pro-inflammatory cascades in the, in the brain, in the body. 21:40 And it's just going to accelerate. Getting real simple. 21:42 It accelerates that rate and pace of biological age aging. 21:47 Right. 21:47 So we're going to age faster, which increases our likelihood, 21:50 our rate and risk of all cause mortality and chronic disease. 21:53 So we want to pump the brakes on that. 21:54 That's just real simple terms right. 21:56 So okay doc. 21:57 So now all of a sudden in the literature we're seeing the young plasma 22:03 is able to, when administered actually can help to reset the microbiome. 22:06 Let's talk about the studies you're overseeing. 22:08 Let's talk about some of these results. 22:10 Because this it's pretty exciting stuff. 22:12 And I want to see what is possible with it and how we can leverage and access. 22:16 So take it away. 22:18 So here's the hardest part of of the studies from a global picture. 22:24 So what happened with the red. 22:25 So show they we know plasma is safe. 22:28 So then longevity use of plasma comes in with the rats. 22:32 Right. 22:32 And the rats are easy because you can do whatever to the poor rat. 22:36 And then 22:38 look at the brain or look at the gut, whatever you need. 22:41 Right. There's tons of hormone studies. 22:42 You give the rat estrogen, you don't get this rat estrogen. 22:45 And then they throw it in water. 22:47 And the rapid drowns. You go, oh, the guys, we didn't give this to women. 22:50 We didn't give estrogen to rats. They drown. 22:51 You know you can't do that with people. 22:53 So, so. Right. 22:54 So it's a lot harder to move to humans 22:58 to turn around and say, okay, what can I check? 23:01 So when we went down the neurodegenerative route, 23:04 it was a little easier because you can say, okay, if you have Parkinson's, right? 23:09 Here's the the different test with you. 23:12 Here's the motor part of it. 23:13 Here's the the activities of daily living. 23:16 Here's the overall how you feel. 23:19 So there's scales that are used to determine, right, 23:23 that the neurologists have to use to say, how is this patient doing. 23:27 Do I change their meds. What do I do? 23:28 So in terms of what we found with Parkinson's, 23:31 we took ten people with Parkinson's and gave them a liter of plasma a day off. 23:37 And then another leader. 23:38 And then we did the same thing with B6 for the other group. 23:41 And the reason they use we use B6 is because it's yellowish, like the plasma. 23:45 So even though the bag was covered, it's still had a yellowish color. 23:49 So what we found not only objectively, 23:52 subjectively that the patients would say, well, I feel better. 23:55 Mike and we talked to partners also, but when we did the Parkinson's scores, 24:01 the, the, the actual motor and activities of daily living, 24:05 we found statistically significant improvement in that in the people that had 24:11 that had got plasma versus the people that got the placebo. 24:14 So you can truly see and then you take logic. 24:18 It makes sense, right? 24:19 If the part of the 24:20 brain with Parkinson's is damaged and there's inflammation there, 24:24 and now you put the young factors back in, you can patch up the area. 24:29 So therefore the dopamine is more efficient. 24:32 You can make it again the nerves get better. 24:34 So it sort of makes logical sense what the ongoing 24:38 look that we're doing now is what can we do to help. 24:42 Just nonspecific aging and what can we do? 24:46 Like I had to put in my shoulder, what can we do to help joints 24:50 even from a small level. Right. 24:52 So so PRP platelet rich plasma. Right. 24:55 Take my old stuff. 24:58 If I have say a leg or a knee or some kind of injury, 25:00 you draw my old stuff, my old blood with my old platelets 25:04 that clearly in the literature have less healing factors. 25:06 As I get older, crack them up and inject them back into myself 25:11 versus taking some of the young factors and putting it in the knee, 25:15 or putting it in a shoulder to try to stave off surgery. 25:18 And we're seeing huge benefits in that. 25:21 The joint, everybody's getting better. 25:23 So then the next step is, okay, what am I doing for aging? 25:27 One of the biggest problems with plasma and aging is finding something 25:33 that is truly going to tell you how it's working, and we've looked at everything. 25:38 The problem with epigenetic studies is that when you hang 2 or 3l of plasma 25:44 in somebody, you sort of turn their system upside down a little bit. 25:47 So if you think about it at a cellular level, it's sort of 25:51 it's like redoing your house, right? 25:53 If you buy your house in 1990 and then in 2010, you say, hey, I'm 25:57 going to redo it that month that you're ripping up the floors right and right. 26:02 So paper, you're like, oh my God, I'm living in a hotel or in my garage. 26:05 It's a mess. 26:06 And maybe you want to do that for three or 4 or 5 months, 26:09 but then, wow, your house is beautiful. 26:11 So the some of what we're finding and we're going to have to follow this 26:14 long term is that the immediate benefit, you know, 26:17 if somebody does a cold plunge they're not going, wow, I'm happy. 26:21 Right. Help themselves. But they're miserable. 26:23 So so some of to make 26:25 makes it a little bit difficult is some of the immediate stuff we saw. 26:28 We've seen a bunch of people their hemoglobin A when C goes down. 26:31 So the pre-diabetes goes away. 26:32 Their overall sleep patterns like on the loop 26:36 band will get a little bit better. 26:38 We've seen some patch of aging get better. 26:41 We've seen some piece of aging not but some people. 26:44 Piece of aging didn't get better. 26:45 And for months the patient felt significantly better. 26:48 So where are they going to be a year down the road? 26:51 So the biggest thing we're looking for in using it in, in, in humans 26:57 is because of the biological clocks and what they're trained on. 27:03 Are they really going to be 27:04 the optimal way for us to look at what young plasma does? 27:08 So right now we're in the middle of how do you feel. 27:11 Plus looking at parameters and learning more. 27:15 So just out of curiosity, are you stacking and combining therapy. 27:20 So let's let's look at you know, one of the things you said is 27:23 especially for women that that are in their 70s and 80s, 27:27 and we're seeing quite a high rate of cognitive decline, 27:31 dementias, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, especially in women. 27:34 And would there be that direct correlation 27:36 because their hormones went away and they didn't really have access to it? 27:40 Have you been doing any combination therapies in elderly? 27:44 I don't say elderly longer live patients that are maybe in that 27:47 chronological category that are having problems 27:51 combining now, bringing back in hormones, bringing in young plasma, 27:55 potentially bring in I know in the young plasma there's different peptides, 27:58 but potentially bringing in targeted peptides or some different things.
Young plasma research and clinical results 28:02 Have you guys have you and your team been doing 28:05 any combo therapy like that, and if so, what do you do? 28:07 The docs are yeah, a lot of the docs are. 28:09 So right now we're at a point where it you kind of 28:13 you do what you think is best for the patient. 28:16 And and we're going to see where we are at the end. 28:19 So for example let's say you have 20 docs in their private practices 28:23 taking care of people. 28:24 This individual person like we had a 90 year old, Stanley Jones in Houston. 28:30 Doctor Jones does my plasma. 28:31 He had a 90 year old coming in in a wheelchair, could barely see miserable. 28:37 He gave her 200 cc's of plasma a week apart. 28:40 Very gentle. Was supposed to do it for a month. 28:42 She called back in three weeks, and she said, I'm feeling better. 28:45 I don't really need my glasses as much anymore. 28:47 I'm not coming back for my fourth one. 28:49 I'll let you know when I need it. 28:50 So I don't know that that person's going to go on hormones. 28:53 She doesn't need anything else. She's happy with. 28:55 Another patient who had bad macular degeneration, was getting shots in her 28:59 eyes, a transplant nurse, she, after getting three liters of plasma, the shots 29:05 kind of spread out. 29:06 So the little bit of negative from the hormone 29:10 part of that is that there's so much negative press 29:15 from ObGyn world 29:19 not to put women on hormones. 29:22 Yeah, not on them. 29:23 Everybody talks about the menopause window, the optimal window. 29:27 So there's really not a lot done. 29:29 And everybody still refers back to the study. 29:33 They'll be like oh the women that were 70 that got Prime Pro which again 29:37 it's horse pee, oral estrogen and progesterone. 29:41 They didn't get any better. 29:42 So a physician you sort of 29:45 you should have to work within this brick wall 29:47 because I have a lot of women that come to me and go, 29:49 you know, I'm 65, I don't feel good. 29:50 I do a coronary calcium score to make sure that they don't have any plaques, 29:55 because you get hardening of the arteries in menopause. 29:57 As long as there's none of that. 29:59 I will start those patients on hormones. 30:01 But but their individual, they're kind of coming to me that way. 30:05 That's not where the big obese world is. 30:08 So it's really hard to say, hey, would this lady with her 30:12 macular degeneration if I added estradiol on top of that, would that do better? 30:16 I'm hoping that what we're going to start to see is, 30:19 as this individual patient at 65, I give her hormones 30:22 and then she goes, yeah, I think I'm going to try the plasma boom. 30:25 That's where our learning curve is going to come from. 30:27 And I think what we check and what we see and how they do will start to appear. 30:32 Well, you were sharing with me that you are literally right now 30:36 in the midst your pre-launch 30:37 of a pretty exciting AI platform that I think from what I'm hearing. 30:42 And again, this is what I spoke with doctor, Killeen about. 30:45 Also, there is really this big gap, right. 30:47 Like, so there's a small group of doctors 30:50 like yourself that are out there that understand the safety, the efficacy 30:53 and the necessity of hormones, especially for women's longevity, health, 30:59 and yet still the the predominant fear and limitation. 31:03 They're still just like you said, there's this wall, this barrier. 31:06 And so how do you kind of navigate within it. 31:08 And so you are bringing to market an AI platform 31:12 that can help to kind of democratize access to some of this information. 31:16 So if somebody is working with a doc that's maybe still kind of in 31:20 one lane of thinking 31:21 now you're just taking it right to the consumer so they can have 31:25 the access to the information and empower and then advocate for themselves. 31:28 Tell us a little bit about this. 31:30 Well, I think like I said, that that because the dust starts 31:33 to collect at 40, it's so convoluted 31:37 sort of what you bring when you show up at 46, 47 and you turn around and go, 31:41 I just don't feel good. 31:43 And not only is do we have to be trained as obedience 31:47 to be surgeons and, you know, deal with postpartum hemorrhage and all that. 31:51 So the amount of real downtime that you get from a clinical practice 31:55 to learn what to do to help in menopause is minimal. 31:58 So so we tend to Zo begins to go, okay, 32:01 do you want to just put the patch on or not, 32:03 which is a whole host of problems in the perimenopause 32:07 because you've got this lady doing this with estrogen 32:09 and this being a detox problem and this lady needs more progesterone. 32:13 So that all becomes a big issue. 32:15 And then what happens is, is women and I don't really understand this. 32:19 And I did a vision for 35 years. 32:22 It went back to the same thing with a C-section. 32:24 I used to tell women, be grateful that you live in a country 32:28 that that we can do that, use an epidural, and I can put a little bikini cut 32:33 and you and I can take this 32:34 8 pound baby out, and it's okay that you don't deliver vaginally. 32:38 And women could not come to grips with that. 32:39 They would cry capable of a C-section. 32:42 So they would feel like if they if they don't squat in the bush 32:45 and have their baby, that there's a problem 32:47 and there's a little bit of that in the menopause, cause 32:51 aging space, like I get a medal if I go through it without anything. 32:58 And, and I think there's a double whammy with that because as a 60 year old, 33:03 you don't know when you're 50, what it's like to be 60. 33:07 And there really big changes that happen. 33:09 So you're still kind of feeling somewhat reasonable. 33:12 Or maybe you're like, 33:13 yeah, I've got these cognitive changes, but I'm getting a little older, 33:16 but I'm going to push through it and I'm gonna push through those flashes. 33:19 But you don't realize that what's happening is, is that you have 33:23 estrogen receptors in your blood vessels. 33:26 So you are getting hardening of the arteries 33:29 and decreasing blood flow to all your organs. 33:32 You see it in as direct to me. 33:34 You operate on somebody who's 45 and take their uterus out. 33:37 Their uterus looks like a grapefruit. 33:38 You take out the uterus of a 55 year old. 33:40 It looks like a plump. 33:42 So that's happening all over in your body. 33:45 But women are not educated that that's what's going to happen. 33:48 So you don't want to wake up at 62 where you go, wow, I can't think as well. 33:54 Or you know, 33:54 I haven't been feeling as great or or my hip is weak or I have osteoporosis 33:59 and now there's a lot of new literature on some of the osteoporosis meant that 34:03 if you take it for more than a couple of years, 34:06 you drop the cells that are cutting down your bones. 34:09 But the minute you stop the med, they spring back worse 34:12 and so the prevention of where you'll be down the road is a problem. 34:17 And that is not educated to women. 34:19 And and you can't, I think, do it in a book 34:23 because a woman can sit down and read a book, 34:25 but she needs to be able to be piecemeal. 34:29 In other words, I'm having some of these symptoms. 34:31 What do you think? 34:32 So we've got a digital doc who is kind of 34:37 there's an old movie called Phantom Tollbooth. 34:39 So it's it's a it's a really cool movie where the kid was in person 34:42 when he went through the problem. 34:43 There's a little bit of a cartoon, almost like The Wizard of Oz. 34:47 So it's a it's sort of a digital twin of myself 34:51 and a nutritionist and, and people in my practice, 34:55 where are we're going to feed into that 34:58 info that, that women need to hear, that they can access their down time, 35:04 not sit and read a book, but it's 7:00 at night or 8:00 35:08 at night, and your teenager is dealt with and this and that's done. 35:11 And now you need info that you're gonna be able 35:14 to go into this area, that you're going to be able to talk to this doc. 35:18 You know, I've had this irregular bleeding for two minutes. 35:20 Let somebody say to you, yes, this is normal. 35:23 It could be something to worry about. 35:25 But here's what happens with estrogen. 35:27 If you're spiking estrogen. 35:29 Here's how we work on detox. Try this. 35:31 So we'll be able to walk them through the perimenopausal changes. 35:36 Give them an idea. 35:37 So by the time they go to their doc, they're educated. 35:41 And they can turn around and say, here's how I feel. 35:43 And it also makes it easier for the doctor. 35:45 So it's not a this visit that they don't have time to do. 35:48 Now. They say, yeah, you've done this. 35:50 You've changed your diet, you worked on your microbiome, 35:52 you're taking your probiotics, you're doing your sauna 35:55 because you look like you're a detox problem. 35:57 We've got genetics that we're going to add in. 35:59 So, so you find out, hey, I'm a real bad estrogen detox or so with a swab test. 36:04 You can look at that so you can work and then get an understanding 36:09 sort of in your own home 36:11 of where you are in this process and when you need support added. 36:14 Yeah. 36:15 It's so I think, you know, what I want to say 36:18 to everyone listening right now, especially to all of our women, 36:23 you know, to everybody, listen, our bodies are amazing. 36:27 And when health can feel really complex 36:30 because we have all been conditioned to think, well, 36:34 this is just what happens with aging and yet you know it. 36:38 And I think the biggest opportunity again, kind of coming back to that flexibility, 36:42 we are in a time of 36:43 such incredible opportunity because I always say aging is optional. 36:46 And here is why we have the option to choose to bring back in our hormones. 36:51 We have the option to choose to support our microbiome, 36:56 our physical health, our mental or emotional, to get up and to move 37:00 and to breathe and to look at the sun and to get good sleep, you know. 37:03 Yeah. 37:03 By way of first and foremost, like you said, 37:05 we can do all the right lifestyle things. 37:07 But if our hormones are declining and they're not, they're 37:10 just not being made at the same level to keep us in a more optimized state. 37:14 Why would we not want to bring them back in, which is already going to extend 37:19 health, health expression, vitality, energy, cognition? 37:22 It's going to reduce that rate and risk of different expressions of disease. 37:27 So why would we not choose for that? 37:29 And and I get it that it can feel confusing, right? 37:32 Because when I listen to you, I always think of myself whenever 37:35 I'm having a conversation with anybody as if I'm the listener and going, 37:39 or if I'm having all these problems and it can feel so 37:43 confusing, right? 37:45 Is it this or is it that and especially well, or is it just aging? 37:48 And what does aging even mean? 37:50 So I'm hearing first and foremost, doc, 37:52 that there is a beautiful opportunity mostly for women, even men. 37:58 I don't want to exclude them for this from this conversation, but to realize 38:02 that our hormones do begin to fluctuate pretty significantly by time. 38:06 We're in our mid 40s and going at and beyond. 38:09 Right. 38:10 And what can we do about it to extend our health expression? 38:15 Step one is we can all do bioidentical hormone replacement. 38:19 Let me just ask you. 38:20 So you're going to have this AI app. 38:21 Now what is the best way that we go advocate for ourselves. 38:26 Where do we go to say I want this. 38:31 Like for men? 38:32 Do they go to the the T clinic and to women or like, what would you say are 38:37 some of the best trusted or vetted places for us to find access to this? 38:41 Well, I think I think that men can go to their urologist. 38:45 I think men have less of a problem with that. 38:47 I think the urologist will do a blood test. 38:52 See, part of the problem is, is that you're 38:54 you're not supposed to have low testosterone when you're a guy 38:58 when you're 55, but it's okay that you have low estrogen. 39:02 So I, I think that the, the difference, it's like okay that's life. 39:06 So I think that's problem number one. 39:08 So if you go to your urologist and you look at they 39:10 look at your testosterone in a normal male, 39:12 testosterone should be say 500 to 700 and you run to 50. 39:17 I don't think anybody would have a problem. 39:19 They would treat that very simply. 39:21 I think that the expectation with women is that you're supposed to 39:25 accept menopause. 39:26 And that's why it's 39:29 it's not about you don't have to go to a specific doc, 39:33 your ob gyn I think is going to get better with it. 39:37 I think right now there's a little bit it's overwhelming for the OB. Jen. 39:41 Part of what happen it and I think the origins are going 39:44 to start to learn now is more women are requesting this. 39:48 But part of the problem, remember to where we are is that if you calculate 39:53 the time in 2002, they said that hormones were going to hurt you. 39:57 So that has really to this day I still hear it.
AI support for menopause education 40:01 But if you really want to think, then for maybe ten, 15 years after that, 40:05 they didn't teach anything. 40:07 Think about medical school, right? 40:09 Nobody. 40:09 No, they didn't talk about hormones at all. 40:12 The first couple years. You know. 40:13 So first year medical school you do. 40:15 We didn't. 40:16 We did normal and then we did pathology second year. 40:18 My son just graduated a couple years ago. 40:21 And I think now they do system. 40:22 So they'll do endocrine system and renal system. 40:24 So when they're doing the endocrine system 40:26 they're not going to talk about that replacement because hormones hurt. 40:29 Well I think you've got 15 years of docs that learn nothing about it 40:33 because why would you teach something that's going to hurt. 40:35 So I think the doc is going to be more of the end point. 40:40 I think the AI and the support is going to support the patient. 40:45 And then as we're doing also more 40:48 and more testing, that's another thing I'm working really hard on. 40:51 It's not about, oh, just put this patch on or put this patch on. 40:54 Somebody needs to really research into the testing. 40:57 And we're doing that a lot in in what I'm doing 41:00 because you can look at the urine output of a 47 year old of hormones, 41:06 and you can look at a 57 year old and you can 41:09 you don't need to make levels crazy, but keeping us in that 41:13 just premenopausal range is going to, I think, more and more. 41:18 And I use that on every patient is is going to give us something to look at. 41:23 Kind of like you look at blood, thyroid or you look at, 41:26 you know, your blood pressure. 41:27 You don't just say, oh, I'm okay. Somebody puts a cuff on. 41:30 So there's a whole other world out there that people like myself 41:33 are starting to look at to say, okay, when you come in menopausal, 41:39 let me see where your urine levels are and let me get you where you need to be. 41:43 And I'm hoping is more of that black and white comes out. 41:46 It's going to be easier for docs that maybe aren't as comfortable 41:49 with hormones to say, okay, now I have real data to treat people. 41:53 Yeah, excellent. Perfect. 41:55 We only have a few minutes left, and I would love to keep talking to you 41:58 for hours, but I would be remiss if I don't highlight your your 42:03 your commitment to being a high performer, to personal excellence. 42:07 You are an athlete. 42:08 An an Ironman, a peak performer. 42:11 You're doing Spartans. 42:13 How how to have physical discipline 42:17 and mindset really play into for you, into your own personal. 42:21 And then kind of the 42:22 the professional aging conversation that you're really leading out there 42:25 kind of what lessons have you learned yourself 42:27 that you feel are important to to serve class on? 42:31 You know, that's a really good question, 42:33 because I'd love to be able to bottle some of that and 42:38 make it strong in each individual person. 42:42 And maybe because I was sort of an athlete, 42:46 not that I was ever a Division one athlete, but I swam in high school and, 42:50 you know, I, I did a little bit in college and then in medical school, 42:54 I always made sure I ran, and then I did the Navy Seal program 42:59 that they had, like a local Navy Seal, that that that ran a health program here. 43:02 And athletics has always been very important to me. 43:05 I think it's also helped me have a more normal brain. 43:08 You know, I have dopamine issues. 43:09 I know genetically. 43:10 So for me, I tell people that marathon running and spartan racing 43:14 is is probably a good addiction. 43:15 It's an acceptable addiction. 43:17 But, but but I, I'm, I'm a one foot in front of the other person 43:22 and, and I think that if, if we can bottle that more, 43:28 if people can find that I think that's where longevity will come from. 43:32 I think what starts to happen is it becomes very overwhelming. 43:36 So you'll get somebody in their 40s that says, 43:39 oh my God, I've put on this weight. I don't feel good. 43:41 You know, my brain's not working. 43:43 My sleep's dysregulated. 43:44 I'm, you know, they're not going to get out and run A5K or swim or this and that. 43:48 So so I think what what I try to tell people to do is kind of put one foot 43:53 in front of the other. 43:53 I got to the start line of one of the Iron Man's that I didn't. 43:56 I had a panic attack. 43:58 I was like, 43:58 okay, I've been training so hard and I'm like, I couldn't get in the water. 44:01 And a real nice lady came over to me and said, you know, calm down. 44:05 She didn't know me. Show two kids. 44:06 She must've been there supporting her husband. 44:08 She said, calm down, you know, wipe off your eyes a little, 44:11 put your goggles on and get in the water and swim to the first swim bully. 44:15 And then when you get there, go to the next one 44:18 and don't think about anything else. 44:19 And I think it's a really good way to live life. 44:21 In other words, I follow Andy for Sela 44:24 and he talks about the powerless, the, the, the five things you do, and I, 44:28 I think it's a good concept of, you know, one swim bully at a time that every day. 44:33 So turn around and say, I'm going to make sure I get movement in me. 44:36 Five, ten, 15 minutes, 20 minutes starts somewhere. 44:39 I'm going to make sure that I go grocery shopping and I eat vegetables. 44:43 It's a big deal for a lot of people. Like, I hate to cook. 44:46 That's fine. Do it anyway. 44:48 You know, I love it. 44:49 I think that's the big key to longevity is sometimes. 44:54 And who said it? 44:56 I think Mike Tyson taking things that you hate and doing it like you love it 45:01 and that it's discipline 45:04 that will keep you really fit and healthy. 45:07 And it's it's really I taught my kids it's really that it's it's life. 45:12 It's work. It's everything. Right? 45:13 You need to make sure that you do one swim 45:16 daily at a time, but do the best you can and stuff you don't love to do. 45:19 You still execute on it and and then you find more enjoyment. 45:24 I happen to love athletics. 45:25 I love the Spartan stuff. And Joe Jason is great. 45:28 The concept and he says pain is temporary and it's part of living. So. 45:32 So if I could give one word of advice to people, I would say find the basics 45:38 and just make sure you execute a little bit on them every day. 45:41 And for women, I know everybody tells you to walk. 45:45 Just walk in 30 minutes isn't going to do enough. 45:48 Please lift. 45:49 Yeah, you're doing walking. 45:51 It's just not enough. 45:52 If you want to walk five miles a day, great. 45:54 That's going to. But. 45:55 But women really need to lift. 45:58 They have to lift. They have to lift reasonable. 46:00 And they have to do it 2 to 3 days a week. 46:01 Especially as they get into their perimenopause. 46:04 But if you do those things that you don't like, like you love it, 46:07 you're going to have real longevity. 46:09 You'll do other things that you don't like and act like you love it. 46:12 I just, I think that's I really do think that's excellent wisdom. 46:16 And more than anything, it's the one foot in front of the other. 46:19 It is about getting up and going forward every single day. 46:22 And again, I'm going to kind of bring it back 46:24 to one of the things that we said before the interview even started, which is, 46:28 you know, we do live in this really exciting time 46:31 and a lot of things that we talk about on the show 46:33 or that people hear about at Rad Fest, and they will 46:35 when they come out to the ten year celebration this July 10th 46:38 through the 13th in Las Vegas, is, we hear a lot of what's coming. 46:43 We hear about the exciting science and breakthroughs and 46:46 even access to the young. 46:48 Plasma is exciting. 46:50 It is showing some very promising things. 46:52 And yet there is all this. 46:54 It's coming, but there's still barriers of being able to have access to it.
Athletic discipline and daily longevity habits 47:00 And so, you know, you reminding like, look, 47:03 we still have to do our part as individuals every single day. 47:07 It's not waiting for the magic thing just to arrive 47:09 and sitting back and doing nothing and being non participatory in our life. 47:13 If we really want longevity and radical longevity, it begins 47:16 today to say, how do I want to be living today? 47:19 What's the one small thing I can do today? 47:21 And I love it to get to that first boy, to get to that next point 47:26 in in how I want to be living. 47:28 As we get ready to wrap doc, help us to understand, like, 47:32 you know, kind of what you're seeing with where there are some barriers, but what, 47:35 if anything, would you inspire us to to be aware of, 47:40 to exercise our own voice or contribution to breaking through barriers, 47:45 to have access to greater and greater longevity treatments? 47:50 Well, I think the big thing that is a problem 47:52 is that there's so much red tape everywhere you turn and, and, 47:57 and so the PhD's are doing 48:00 their kind of research, but then somebody might take it 48:04 and turn it into something in a biotech company. 48:07 But then what starts to happen? 48:09 And we found that and we talked about this. 48:10 We found that with the young plasma, the FDA approves plasma. 48:15 It's an approved product. 48:16 You can hang it in the hospital. 48:18 Gazillions of units are hung every day. 48:20 But when we turn around and say, okay, 48:23 I want to use it because I think it's young factors to help longevity. 48:27 It's a safe product. 48:29 Nothing negative is going to happen. 48:31 I got in trouble. 48:32 The FDA called, they yelled, oh my God, give me your research. 48:35 They're not allowed to do that. 48:36 We saw a lot of the same stuff with ivermectin. 48:39 A lot of these young startups that have products 48:43 that are safe, they the FDA says no, it's a new biologic. 48:47 No. You have to. 48:48 So you they don't have the money to break through this red tape. 48:52 And I want everybody to remember, you know, birth control pills 48:55 are there for birth control. 48:57 If you use your birth control pills back to back, that's a miss. 49:01 Your period on your vacation that's not FDA approved. 49:04 If you have endometriosis and you're taking birth control pills to help your 49:08 and Dimitrios, that's not FDA approved, but it doesn't need to be FDA approved. 49:13 So I encourage 49:14 people FDA has to say the product is safe, but they can't tell us 49:18 how to practice medicine. 49:19 So encourage people to keep your eyes open. 49:22 If you're interested in longevity, to make sure that you speak out. 49:27 If there's if there's a, therapy that you want 49:30 and you see it's under a little of attack, you know, you can read. 49:34 I wrote to Ted Cruz. 49:35 I heard nothing back but a matter right again 49:38 that, you know, they look at what the FDA did, 49:40 somebody needs to turn around and say, I went to all these years of med school 49:43 and all these years of residency, and I'm I'm, 49:46 you know, I'm not I would never been sued. 49:49 And I'm a good doc. 49:50 And if I take a safe product 49:52 and I have an idea to help somebody, I should be able to use it. So. 49:55 So everybody in their own little way 49:58 can really tell the government, 50:01 yeah, do your job in this little smart part of it. 50:05 Go, okay, we know it's safe, but let the docs 50:08 that went to medical school and know what to do work with you. 50:12 Bio individual. 50:14 How can you do precision medicine if you don't? 50:16 Let us do precision medicine to give you right? 50:19 I love it. 50:20 And and you know, I want to just remind our listeners that in 2026, 50:24 the coalition for Radical Life Extension is organizing a march on Washington. 50:28 You know, so 50:29 if you care about this conversation, you care about your right to have access. 50:33 And I want to be really clear for everybody. 50:35 You know what, doctor? 50:36 Diana was just telling us it's like a these medicines, 50:42 they get approved in one use so we know they're safe. 50:47 Doctors are always using these things. 50:49 It's called off label. 50:50 So percent 20% so 50:53 and so now it's interesting and it's never actually really been contested before. 50:57 So it's fascinating what they're doing 50:58 because like you said it is really a money grab because now 51:01 once once things that go through, you know, they're like once a new drug 51:06 is brought to market and we're even seeing it with the GP's 51:08 and things like that, there's a certain amount of time that, that 51:12 they have that it can be used in that way, and they get the biggest money for it. 51:16 And then it's like metformin, metformin, it's out of it's expiration date. 51:21 And so it's out there. They don't farm. 51:22 It doesn't make the same kind of money on it that it did. 51:24 You know ten years ago. It doesn't care as much. 51:27 So other companies are looking at it and saying how can we use this. 51:30 What can we do with this. This is low cost. 51:31 It's safe. It's proven, it's FDA approved. 51:33 Does it have other off label aspects to it 51:37 and how we can utilize this, this molecule. 51:39 So there's a lot happening in research to say, because it is cost prohibitive 51:43 to bring all these new things to market and it's fascinating that now 51:47 the FDA is trying to come back 51:49 and do things a little differently than they've done it before. 51:52 They say, well, yeah, we approved it here, 51:53 but now we're going to make you reapproved in this way, 51:56 to use it in a different in a different vertical, so to speak, or 51:59 that's telling you how to practice medicine. 52:01 They can't do that. 52:02 The FDA does not have the right to tell me how to practice medicine. 52:05 So you can tell me that's a safe product that would would be no different 52:08 than somebody having a yeast infection. 52:10 And I give them a deflection. 52:11 And at moments everyone and listening to 52:13 this is how the yeast infection takes my flu can. 52:15 So like it said, it's approved for one time use. 52:17 But if I have somebody that's got chronic yeast, 52:19 they'll take one a month for three months. 52:20 I don't have the FDA banging on my door yelling at me there. 52:23 So there's a there. 52:25 Their job is to approve. 52:26 It's safe, but it's it's called going to medical school. 52:29 Otherwise, put a robot in my place. 52:31 Then you don't need me to make any decisions. 52:34 But I look at all these women, 52:35 and I turn around and go, oh, I've done this here, this works. 52:38 And then you write a paper and then it goes to the medical board, 52:41 and then they check in if you're doing anything wrong. 52:43 That's why you have a medical license. 52:45 If you hurt somebody, then they go to the Texas Medical Board 52:49 and they would turn around and say, this person hurt me. 52:51 And if there's a couple times that happens, they pull their license. 52:53 So we are policed by our own people. 52:56 But anybody that's ever gotten Botox and that's off label, 52:59 completely off label, and nobody says anything.
Advocacy, FDA barriers, and closing remarks 53:01 So, so really, really, 53:03 maybe people could be a little bit more tuned into that, 53:05 because it's the only way longevity is really going to move forward. 53:09 Powerful statement. 53:10 And thank you. 53:11 And so with that I want to invite each 53:12 and every one of you remember it begins within within you. 53:15 You've got to be your own and of one. 53:17 You've got to be your own advocate. 53:18 And that is how things actually change. 53:21 How we choose, how we make choices, where we put our money, 53:24 where we put our attention, where we put our voices. 53:26 And so then that's one foot in front of the other each and every day, 53:30 getting up, getting out and collectively creating this longevity 53:34 living future that we all are just so excited to be a part of. 53:38 Doctor Diana, oh my gosh, you're Diana. 53:41 I'm so Diane. I'm so sorry. 53:42 Just a Dena I apologize, doctor Diane, I, I'm so grateful for your time, 53:47 for your energy, for your passion 53:49 and for your knowledge and the work that you continue to do in the field. 53:53 Thank you for all of your time today. 53:56 Thank you for having me. 53:56 I love it. 53:57 It's it's wonderful to be here, to be able to just get some info out, 54:00 to take care of men and women, anybody we can to make the world a better place. 54:04 And we're going to make sure. 54:05 So listen, gang, I know you want to know about the I. 54:08 I know you want to know about finding out how to work. 54:10 You know, with her directly you want to find out about her research. 54:13 We're going to have the links 54:14 to all of her platforms, social media, websites, everything. 54:18 Where is the best place that you personally would want people 54:21 to reach out to? 54:22 First and foremost, doc, if you if they type in. 54:24 So we're I'm redoing my YouTube channel. 54:26 It's I'm seeing patients. 54:28 I'm so busy seeing patients and I'm training for another marathon. 54:31 I'd like to go back to Boston one more time for the marathon 54:33 in two months that I got to do a subfour hour to qualify for Boston. 54:37 So, so I'm seeing patients. 54:38 So are we're revamping our YouTube. 54:40 But if you go to Diane Ginsburg, M.D., 54:41 there's tons of free stuff on our YouTube channel. 54:44 And then my website is Diane Ginsburg, M.D., 54:46 and we've got all kinds of info there on Young Plasma. 54:49 And then Young Plasma study.com has tons of info about the young plasma 54:55 and and, the study we did and all the data behind it. 54:59 So it's all available for everybody to check out. 55:02 Well, I hope that you're posting on your social 55:05 all your training like leading. 55:07 We want to watch it. 55:08 We want to follow you get back to get back to Boston. 55:10 I know it's going to happen. 55:12 You're going to continue to inspire so many of us at every age 55:15 and every stage of life. 55:16 So thank you, thank you, thank you, Doctor Ginsburg, everybody. Wow. 55:20 Thanks for having me. Everybody. Have a great day. 55:22 All right. 55:23 Okay. 55:23 So listen, friends, until next time, continue to go out and be bold, 55:27 stay curious and express your greatest states of aliveness. 55:32 Take care. 55:33 Thank you for tuning in to Doctor Talks. 55:35 We hope today's episode has enlightened 55:37 and inspired you on your path to optimal health. 55:40 Each day is a new opportunity to make choices that empower your well-being. 55:44 For more insights and strategies, subscribe to our podcast 55:48 and visit our website w ww di doctor talks.com. 55:53 Stay connected, stay healthy and join us next time on Doctor Talks. 55:58 Real talks from real doctors on the issues that matter to you most.
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