Health Benefits Of C60 For Reducing Oxidative Stress

Ken Swartz

Hi.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Well, I’m really excited to bring you on today. Besides being a personal acquaintance and friend of mine, our paths cross multiple times a year in various ways at conferences and such. You are the founder and CEO and chief science officer of C60 Purple Power. That is a health and wellness company that delivers the highest quality C60 products available. We are going to talk a little bit about that today. The fun facts about you. You have run several research science laboratories over the course of your career, which makes you an authority in this space. And a really fun thing is you spent the early part of your career as a junior high and high school teacher. Math, science, and history, which means you know how to take complex science and break it down into easy parts.

Ken Swartz

Yes. That is what you learn to do.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Perfect. So everybody loves a fun science teacher. I will never forget mine in college. My microbiology teacher was obsessed with gonorrhea. Neisseria gonorrhoeae was his favorite bacteria. So I have fond memories of a fun science teacher. So we are going to make this a fun conversation, everyone. So let’s get into this. I want to talk today about oxidative stress because this is a big deal with mitochondrial health and stealing our energy. And there is a dark side and a good side to oxidative stress. So it is important in the body, but it can simultaneously harm us. So can you speak a little bit into that? What do I mean by that?

Ken Swartz

Well, let us talk about the bad side. And it is oxidative stress and that is basically your body rusting. That is what it is. You get up in the morning and your joints ache and stuff. That is caused by oxidative stress and your body is rusting. And what does that mean? Now we know, obviously, what iron rust it gets, turns of color. But what does that mean in your cells? What happens is your well, it will punch holes in your cell membranes and things can leak out. It should not or things can leak and that should not. And it makes these things called aldehydes, which can get into your bloodstream and they are kind of toxic and not good for you. That can crosslink proteins. And a lot of proteins that fold up like origami the work. And if they get cross-linked, they can not fold up anymore and then they have to go in the trash can. Or they produce products that are not correct. 

And then of course, you can also damage your RNA and DNA, which are the blueprints for your cells or for making proteins. And if that happens, obviously that is a pretty serious problem. So that is kind of the bad side of things and up and when we know a lot of things like your mitochondria produce almost 65% of the oxidative stress in your cells. But oxidative stress can come from a whole other thing. You got toxic chemicals breaking down, radiations of various sorts. And so all of these things can cause oxidative stress. Now, on the good side of things, a little oxidative stress is good for you. Like, for instance, the oxidative stress you get when you work out that gets your mitochondria going. It gets a whole bunch of other chemical processes going. You get a little bit sore and tired, but that is necessary for muscle growth and obviously for heart health. People know that is what your doctor tells you. Go out and exercise because it is so critical. 

And then there are things that oxygen stress is caused by things called oxidative radicals. And some are just totally bad like superoxide, which is not oxygen with that extra electron, obviously, that would rust things or the hydroxyl ion. But then there are some really good ones that the body actually uses as signaling molecules. And the main one of that is one of those is nitrogen oxides and that is what makes your capillaries contract or dilate. And that is important for a lot of things. So having a healthy nitric oxide production in your body is hugely important and that actually goes down as we age. So that is something you need to look into. And then another thing is hydrogen peroxide. 

Normally we think of it as a cleaner, but it actually the body uses that as a signaling molecule. And technically that is not actually too radical, but it does oxidize things as we know. And there are some other oxidative radicals that the body uses as signaling molecules, and they are based around sulfur, iron, and zinc, and they are kind of lower energy and so they go around and but they are the body they are very important in signaling molecule for this process or that process. That is also one of the things you have to look out for with antioxidants because it is when you take antioxidants which neutralize oxidative radicals, you have got to be careful because if you take too much, you can start interfering with some of those signaling molecules. And now your body has those problems. And they have done studies like meta-studies of vitamin C and meta-studies vitamin E where dozens and dozens of studies and none of those two antioxidants do not increase athletic performance because when you get too much of them, then they start interfering with a single molecule which decreases your athletic performance. So basically getting those in a healthy diet is the best way to go.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Can you talk a little bit about signaling molecules? Unpack that and tell us what you mean by that.

Ken Swartz

Well, let us say it is really hot and your body needs to sweat. Well, one of the ways it is got to do that, it is got to release open the capillaries like on your skin. So you get the blood flow to get rid of the heat and then also make the sweat. Well, the body will release nitrogen oxides into the bloodstream and they go through those capillaries and then they cause them to relax. And that allows the blood flow to go to the outside of your body so your body can regulate it. And conversely, it can reduce nitrogen oxides and cause your capillaries to contract. So it runs when it is really cold. So all your blood goes to the core, your heart, lungs, and brain. And so that is.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

So our signaling molecules are not working. Then basic processes in our body are dysregulated and we might run cold or we might run hot or we might run tired or we might run over the top, stressed out feeling. It sounds like these signaling molecules help with keeping everything in balance.

Ken Swartz

Yeah, that is exactly right. And then there is a whole bunch of others that are like there are all kinds of little biochemistry that goes on inside your cells like the hydrogen peroxide uses that is more local inside your cells. But they are critical for hormone regulation that is supercritical and also for the production of proteins and other substances that your body needs. You need these signaling molecules. And if they do not happen, well, then those things you do not fit. So your blood pressure and your and, for instance, your blood glucose levels, all of those need these signaling molecules and there is a whole bunch of them. And so they are really important. So oxygen radicals are not bad necessarily. They are kind of the balance and the same with antioxidants. So you have to have a nice balance there, homeostasis. So everything kind of stays regulated the way it is supposed to.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay. So you started to mention some antioxidants and there are four big players in the antioxidant space. So can you chat about what those four big antioxidants are?

Ken Swartz

Well, in your cells, there are basically four big ones. There are other things like the luteins and vitamin C and vitamin E that come in. But there are really the four big ones inside the cell for the main chemistry. And one of them is CoQ10, Coenzyme ten depending on how you are saying. And of course, you can supplement for that. And as you get older and one of the other things I bring up is as you get older, these antioxidants that your cells produce go down. So you need to make up for them. So CoQ10 is one we can supplement for and then the other is glutathione. A lot of people have heard about glutathione and how super important it is for your health. And actually recently they have actually got what was called liposomal glutathione. They put glutathione inside of like a little package of fat. 

So get through your digestive system, your stomach acid without being destroyed, and now can be absorbed in your body. And so you can actually supplement for glutathione to a certain extent. And so that is really good. And then there are two others. One is called Superoxide Dismutase, and the other is catalase and superoxide. And there are two super damaging oxidative radicals in your body that your body does not use as signaling molecules and one is superoxide and SOD Superoxide dismutase turns superoxide into hydrogen peroxide, then the catalase turns hydrogen peroxide into water and oxygen.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay, so this is where we get into some of the heavy science.

Ken Swartz

Yeah, that is right.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

So now I want you to put on your high school science teacher hat and explain to people why this is important. So why. Yeah, go ahead.

Ken Swartz

When you do not have enough catalase in levels, go down in your hair follicles. That is why your hair turns gray or white because the hydrogen peroxide is actually bleaching your hair before it gets out. So if you can raise your catalase levels then the hair is not so gray. And of course, you get gray hair as you get older and that is because your catalase levels drop. Your SOD levels drop your CoQ10 and glutathione and fortunately, you can supplement for the CoQ10 and glutathione. And then there are other ways you can use to increase your SOD and catalase levels. Another good thing.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

People could reverse some of their graying a little bit.

Ken Swartz

Absolutely. And that is another good thing, another method they do. And they used to do this with glutathione. You still can. Glutathione is made out of three amino acids. And if you supplement for those amino acids, then your body has the pieces and parts to put together. And that is true with CoQ10 and Catalase, and SOD. If you go for the precursor molecules and then those precursor molecules are around, that allows the body the building blocks to synthesize them. And so that is really important. And that is not just that. But for proteins and cell walls and everything, having your proper nutrition and as we get older, you need a lot more of those because things are not as efficient. So that is what is important.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

That is why you can get away with abusing your body when you are in your twenties and thirties and fast food and do not get enough sleep and drink too much and all the things and you will tend to bounce back. And then it does not work so well anymore. When you get older, you start to prioritize your sleep and your healthy eating and you start to feel it. When I do not eat well, I pay for it the next day.

Ken Swartz

Yes. We all know that.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes, we do. I can remember I had my daughter when I was 32. And in your thirties, I think you start to feel this a little bit in your thirties. In your twenties, you can pretty much go without sleep. But I can remember staying up late. I was going to pay for it the next day with a toddler. Like there is no way I started learning very quickly. I can not do this anymore. So kind of the same thing with your body here. Now, can we chat a little bit about superoxide dismutase and the mitochondria because this is where you are an expert in C60, so I want to talk about that. But they are linked together. 

Ken Swartz

Well, let us talk about the thing, the cells inside your cells, these are little organelles called mitochondria. And when you crack cells were formed, they are actually symbiotic bacteria. So now there are like 3000 genes and most of them are in your main DNA, but your mitochondria still have 37 DNA genes and they kind of do the self-regulation there so they can turn themselves up or turn themselves down. They are self-regulated. And the mitochondria are the energy powerhouses of the cell. They make the ATP, the energy molecule that provides 95 plus percent of all the energy for the metabolism, of your cells, supercritical for health. The mitochondria make other things: they make pregnenolone, the precursor molecule for all the hormones. And they also make the precursor molecules for RNA and DNA synthesis, which is super important. And actually, they have a whole bunch of other jobs and are still discovering some of the jobs that the mitochondria are doing. And depending on what cell type is in your body, the mitochondria will do different things like nerve cells. There you can have different types like in the nerve cell because it is the most energy-using cell of your body. You could have hundreds or thousands of mitochondria, whereas in a fat cell that does not do a lot of anything but store fat. It may just have a couple of dozen. So any cells or mitochondria efficiency is really important for cells like your skin cells, mitochondria, and your gut cells, they need lots of energy to function, too. And so it is just important to make sure your mitochondria are healthy and they are like little furnaces. Building this ATP and these other things. And just like any furnace, they give off pollution, so to speak. And the biggest pollutant is superoxide. And usually, your body has enough SOD catalase to neutralize that superoxide before it can cause damage. But sometimes, if you are exercising a whole bunch, your SOD levels can go way up because your mitochondria are going up 50 times more than they do when you are resting, and when that SOD floods out of your cells and into your cells that is what causes the lactic acid buildup. So when you are exercising and eventually you get tired, you can not go on. Well, that is because you have made so many oxidative radicals. It overwhelms your body’s antioxidant production capacity. And then that causes a buildup of lax acid. You get too tired to exercise. So the problem kind of fixed itself in less. And then that takes a while for the body to recover and get back to where it was before.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

The Body Force is itself, you are forced to stop.

Ken Swartz

Yes, there is this action again.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

So you have a solution to the super, the superoxide dismutase problem.

Ken Swartz

Yes. And that is actually the molecule of carbon 60. Okay. Behind me and it is a carbon molecule of 60 atoms shaped exactly like a little soccer ball. And it is completely unique in nature. It was discovered in 1985 and got a Nobel Prize in 1996. When they first testing for toxicity of double the lifespan of test animals. And there is been lots of testing since. But basically, what this found out, is what is called a SOD mimic. So it does the same job as superoxide dismutase and catalase in one step. Because as I mentioned before, you get superoxide which is an oxide with an extra electron. Well, usually SOD would take that and turn it into hydrogen peroxide. Catalase would take that, and turn it back into water and oxygen, which go back into the Krebs cycle kind of recycling. What was C60 basically the superoxide sticks to it, and C60 is unique among all the molecules. Like if we are going to go to chemistry, pretty much C60 likes to get a positive charge, but unlike every other molecule in nature which releases an electron into the environment to give itself a positive charge, C60 pulls little hydrogen ions, positively charged hydrogen ions inside of its cage like structure have been stored with six in there. And so the superoxide sticks to it. It just steals the electron off the superoxide, turning that superoxide back into oxygen, which we use the Krebs cycle and it takes that electronic, gives it to one of those positive hydrogen ions which turn it into hydrogen gas, which is also an antioxidant and signaling molecule. And the hydrogen molecule goes off and then it just pulls another hydrogen ion from the environment into its cage-like structure. So it doesn’t use any of the body chemistry to reset itself. When you talk about glutathione or SOD or catalase, when they interact with laxative radicals, they change their shape because they interact. And so you have to get some ATP and some enzymes for them to go back to reset themselves so they are back ready to do their job. C60 doesn’t need to do that. It does it all on its own. It does the job of SOD or catalase in one step. So in the scientific studies, they found that when you are taking C60, your catalase levels rise because instead of being used up in the SOD in the superoxide density catalase step, it is been done in one shot. And so your catalase levels rise.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay, so I know that people’s brains are hurting right now, so we are going to show you that. Yep. So that was a science we are going to get you guys that is like a high level. So for the people who love that kind of biochemistry, there you have it. But now let us talk about how people feel differently when they take C60. So let us talk about the health benefits in terms of people are here watching this interview right now because their energy’s low, because they have got some mystery health symptoms that they just can’t seem to clear because maybe their hormones are dysregulated, because maybe they have got gut health problems, maybe they have got chronic headaches, maybe they have got autoimmune disorders, maybe they have got brain fog. So let us talk about what will happen when you solve this problem.

Ken Swartz

Well, once the C60 is out, your gut barrier goes past your blood-brain, where it is taken by endocytosis in your cells and in your mitochondria. And once it is there the mitochondria are self-regulating. And because as you get older, you do not get as much sodium catalase. So when you get the mitochondria, get the C60, they can turn themselves back on. And so now they start making that ATP, the first thing you notice more energy, especially mental clarity because you know, your brain, your nerve cells have the most mitochondria of all. So when they get back up and running, now that your nerves can work the way that they are supposed to, so you get this, you get the brain fog goes away, you get that more mental clarity. But all the mitochondria in your body do this. So you are getting more energy so you just feel better. You have got more energy and that is the first thing you go. Then there is another thing that happens because C60 is an anti-inflammatory. And they use it like you can rub it on your skin on a mosquito bite in like 20 minutes. The pain goes away. Well, all through your body. A lot of people have inflammation that you talk about. It is in the car, it is in your things. And one of the things that inflammation causes is dopamine suppression. And that is good. In case you twist your ankle. It swells up. And when you have inflammation, it reduces dopamine production, which is the motivation molecule that gets you out of the bed in the morning. And if it is low, the body likes to lower it while you are injured so that you recover. But if it is chronic inflammation in your gut or your joints or something, then it is a problem because you just do not have the energy. 

You do not have the motivation to do anything. C60 gets in there. This takes a couple of weeks and suppresses the inflammation and then that your dopamine production restarts and now you have got that motivation. You will start wanting to go clean the house or you will go back doing that exercise routine or that hobby that you used to do. You restore a lot of the normal things or the things that you liked to do in the past, but you just didn’t have the energy to do anymore.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Something really important I heard you say was in a few weeks. So oftentimes people are in a right now kind of energy. I want to feel different right now. And so, give your body some time to reset is what I’m hearing here. You need to. 

Ken Swartz

You think that is the key? It is not going to happen immediately. You will get the mental clarity pretty quick and some of the more energy. But a lot of that motivation, other stuff that just gradually grows. So it does take up, I recommend, at least a month, and then you will really see it. And then there are long-term benefits because one of the things that C60 does is you have senescent cells in your body. They are kind of like zombie cells instead of burning oxygen like normal cells do, they are damaged DNA or telomeres are too short or whatever the causes, they kind of go into the zombie mode and they go back into fermentation, which is 1/20 as efficient as oxygen burning. Fermentation makes alcohols and other nasty substances and so they start poisoning the cells around them, as well as draining a bunch of energy from your body and giving them nothing back.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Right.

Ken Swartz

When C60 gets into the senescence cell, it will restart the mitochondria in those cells and the mitochondria will send a little message to the nuclear DNA and they would not get the right message back. And the mitochondria can actually cause apoptosis-programmed cell death. So those zombie cells will break down and at the topic bodies and go away. It is a non-inflammatory process. The phagocytes come and clean it up and so that gets rid of those poisonous cells that are not doing anything for your body. But their messages go out, say, oh, we need more cells. And so you get a big increase in stem cells. And that is really important because then those stem cells go and become new cells in your body or your tissue or whatever it is. And that makes your organ or so more efficient.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Ken, are you possibly saying that this is important for regenerative medicine and anti-aging? Because that is what I think I just heard you say.

Ken Swartz

Oh, hugely. I could tell you a testimonial. If it is okay.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Please do. 

Ken Swartz

Okay. I’m active 70, 71 years old. This is a cut about two or three months after you started taking C60, I had an appointment to receive stem cell therapy. After separating the stem cells, which were removed via liposuction, they were counted and subsequently discovered. I had over 73 million cells. The two doctors processing this process in the cells came rushing into my room saying that I had one of the highest counts they had ever seen, especially for my age. And whenever I wondered what they were doing to get such a high stem cell count, of course, you know what I told them, C60, Purple Power. But that is just the process. Go see 60,000 wipes out those senescent cells. You get a huge increase in stem cells. 

And so like people that take C60, if you go into surgery before and after, you get great outcomes because you have got all those stem cells. Those are like baby cells ready to go. So let’s see if you have an immune challenge. The immune system will say we need more white blood cells. And so whatever type it is and so all of a sudden you have got an army to recruit and all those stem cells can turn into more immune cells or they can turn into whatever cell type if you need more muscle cells. In the best case, one of the things they found, that is the first human test of C60, was put into a face cream and then applied to the faces of Japanese women, applied it to their faces, and it got rid of lines and wrinkles on Japanese women. And how well that did it because it stimulated stem cell production in the skin. Then there were more skin cells. As the turnover happened, you had more stem cells that became skin cells. And so when that happens, your wrinkles and fine lines go away.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

That is pretty incredible. Now, C60 is something that people can get. We have a link where people are watching this interview right now and a link all over our summit for C60. So you just have to click any of those links and you are going to find the product that Ken is talking about. But what I want you to talk about now is there are other C60 products on the market and not everything is created equally. And definitely, when I am recommending something to my audience, it is because it is in a class that is higher level than most stuff out there. There is a lot of knockoffs. There are a lot of products that are contaminated. So tell us what you are looking for in C60. Why? Why is it important that the source matters?

Ken Swartz

Well, it is because when the C60 mark was really small, everybody made a quality product because in their families used it. Then C60 became popular and we had all these fly-by-nighters get into the business. And what they are doing is they are making products with no C60 in it, low concentrations of C60, or low-quality C60. So there are basically three things you want to look for. You want to make sure your C60 is sublimated C60. And if you remember that from high school, that is when a solid turns into a gas. Then back to a solid. It is like evaporation. And sublimation is like distillation. So when you do a sublimation, you get 99.99% pure, which is why you do not want to look for 99.98. Those are just by the nature of sublimation, it makes a very pure product. The other main problem is a lot of C60 out there is produced by solvents, primarily a solvent called methyl benzene, also known as Toluene, which is a non-carcinogen. 

So you really do not want to be taking a non-carcinogen in some product you are taking. So always look for sublimated and 99.99% pure. And then the second thing, C60 has no solubility in water. So if you see somebody out there telling you they have got water-soluble C60, they are just basically lying to you. So it has to be dissolved in a nonpolar substance like oils. And in this case, you want to make sure you get the right healthy oils. There are oils you do not want to be like those seed oils, those omega-six oils, which are inflammatory, like canola oil or corn oil or soybean oil, or sunflower oil. All of these oils are highly inflammatory. They’re great for birds, but they are not good for humans. And so you do not want any of those oils in your diet. So what we did is we put it in really healthy oils, all these avocado oils. That is a healthy oil. Also olive oil. We all know about the Mediterranean diet. People have been using olive oil for thousands and thousands of years. And we also have it in MST Coconut Oil. And recently we put it in gummies. So we have a sugar-free and a sugar gummy. And so that is whole coconut oil.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I’m all about the gummies. That is what I like.

Ken Swartz

Yeah. And MCT oil is really important for those with diabetic processing issues or athletes because MCT is their medium chain triglycerides and they are turned into ketones by your liver really quickly. And ketones can be used as a flex-fuel for your cell. So if you are an athlete, it is extra energy. If you have glucose processing issues, the salt can run off ketones or glucose. And if there is no glucose around or can’t get a hold of it, it can run off of ketones. And that is really important. And then,

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Go ahead, finish that up, and then I have a question.

Ken Swartz

Yeah. And then the third one is you want to make sure your products are safe and effective. And in our products, all of our products come with a QR code. So you can just scan your phone into it and scan your phone on it and you can get a cure. You can get certificates of analysis of our oils. So it is real olive oil, it is real avocado oil, 100% organic, of course, and real mukti or coconut oil. So we have those certificates analysis. And then after we process that, we make our product, we send it to a third-party tester and they test it for microbiological contamination and C60 concentration. So you have third-party testing, so you know your product is safe and effective.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

This is really important. So this was going to be my question. So I know people are scratching their heads going, what do you mean that people can get away with selling a product that does

not actually have C60 in it so can you explain the supplement industry in the United States is kinda like a circus. It is a three-ring circus.

Ken Swartz

Yeah. It is.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

It is like they regulate what you say on your label, not what is in your bottle. It is nuts. So talk about that a little bit because I know people are thinking, but the FDA approved it. It has to have what they say is in there.

Ken Swartz

Yeah, the FDA actually does not approve supplements. Yeah, well, just look at the labels, that is all. Yeah. So what a lot of people are doing is they are putting in low qualities. Though some of them have no C60 at all. They will just claim it. Or you see charcoal C60. There is about 0.25% C60 in the Berwick’s of a candle. But you would have to eat a bucketful of Berwick’s to get that C60. So there is like 0.1% of charcoal in activated charcoal. So they say, look, they are C60. And so you know what you want to look for in our product, this is in pure MCT oil and you can see it is like a clear purple color in olive oil, in avocado oil, which is your tan, it turns out like a dark amber and it should be clear. So, you know, some people are selling stuff that looks like black ink that is just activated charcoal that has no effective amounts of C60 in it. 

The other thing is that there are also low cal quality C60 people selling like 99.5% purity of their products or 99.9%. That comes from the solvent production that is solvent. And using methyl benzene, the non-carcinogen. And so when you see low-quality low concentrations like 99.9% or 99.5%, the other 2.5% or 2.1% is methyl benzene and that is why you have to be very careful. And then a lot of people just do not have much C60 in it. They claim they have C60 products and they do, but it is such a low concentration that it is not effective. Yeah, may be safe, but it has no effectiveness. And the same as with the oils, you want to make sure you get a healthy oil if you are putting it in sunflower oil, that is inflammatory. 

The whole reason you are thinking C60 is to reduce inflammation, not cause it. So you have got to make sure it is in a healthy way. And also some people put it like that into it, like hemp oil and stuff and maybe hemp oil or perhaps flaxseed oil. The problem is, those are omega three rich oils and they are really healthy for you, but they go rancid really quickly. If you buy hemp seed oil or flaxseed oil or like krill or fish oil, always buy them out of the refrigerated section of your health food store because they go rancid really quickly. And if you buy them off the shelf, you do not know how long it is there. Chances are that fish oil is rancid, so always buy omega three rich oils like fish oil, krill, hemp seed oil, or flaxseed oil out of the refrigerated section, because otherwise you are probably just buying rancid oil that is bad for you.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

So important. This is so important that we are going through this because I know people are watching this right now. They do take supplements. They are interested in supporting their health. And they do not want to be going backward with their health by taking poor-quality supplements. Third-party testing is really important. This is where the company actually pays a third-party company to test it. They actually spend more money to test it so that they can independently prove that their product is reputable. And a lot of supplement companies won’t go through that process of spending that extra money. That is really important.

Ken Swartz

There is a reason that their products are not safe or effective. Yeah. C60 costs a lot more by weight and goal. So that is why it is expensive. So if you see a cheap C60 product, there is a reason for that.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yeah, there are a lot of supplements. There is a reason for that.

Ken Swartz

Yeah. So we actually are working on a new process for purifying C60 and making a purifying C60, which will probably reduce the cost to a 10th of what it is, at least the cost of the C60. So it is not quite done yet, but we are working on the bench now. It has to be sold.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Well, congratulations, Ken, because that is a sign that the world is starting to understand the importance of your product. And they are buying it, which means you have more money for research and to create new ways to get this to people. So congratulations on that growth. I can remember when I first heard about your company, three or four years ago, and it was so tiny and I’ve seen you grow so much. So I want to congratulate you on that. Now, is there anybody who shouldn’t take C60 or should be cautious?

Ken Swartz

Yes, there is a contraindication that is for people that are on blood thinners The things that C60 does, are because it restores mitochondria function, it restores pregnenolone production in your hormonal organs. And then pregnenolone, those are precursor molecules for all your hormones. So like in your pineal gland, you are going to produce more melatonin, and you will get more human growth hormone and other hormones in your pituitary hypothalamus complex. You get more T3 into T4. But in your adrenals, your adrenals produce mineralocorticoids and they are what regulate blood thickness. So if you are on a blood thinner, the underlying cause of your blood being quite thick could go away with the increased production of mineral cortical sites. And then if you are taking a blood thinner now, your bloodstream is thin and that is bad for you. 

So if you are on a blood thinner, you want to consult with your doctor and get more testing so that that is not a problem for you. And one other thing, it is not as critical, but if you are on hormone replacement therapy, sometimes your hormone can have other hormone reproduction. Here’s a typical case. We had a seventy-year-old guy. He goes to his doctor. He’s got low testosterone 350. The doctor puts him on creams. He’s on the low seven hundred and then he takes C60. A couple of months later, he goes in for his bi-annual testing and his testosterone is 1200. So the doctor takes him off his creams. 

And so C60 isn’t like hormone replacement therapy where it is one hormone, it just kind of rises, the boat rises. So all your hormone levels, you know, rise as your body wants them because it is got pregnenolone. Now, it can do whatever it is. And there is a thing called pregnenolone still a lot of people help because we have so much stress these days. And as you are getting older, you know, your adrenals, the pregnenolone is being produced as being probably being used for cortisol or other stress hormones. And there is nonetheless left over for glucocorticoids or mineralocorticoids So regulate sugar and blood level and blood thickness level. So those go down. But when you take C60, you have now got enough pregnenolone, and a lot of things that have been dormant restart and you will notice that because the increase in libido is a side effect of C60 for both men and women.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

It is really important to note that I run adrenal tests on people we work with supporting people’s pregnenolone, giving pregnenolone as a solution when people have high cortisol and low DHEA levels. And it is part of a way to get people a quick win to feeling better. And what we are talking about with Ken, with you right now is a different way to approach this. If people could be patient and trust that if you take for a couple of months, you can get under this and raise the pregnenolone level. 

Your body can start to raise it more naturally than just dumping it into the body. So when we as practitioners are supporting people with, that is the fine line we are walking. We want people to get quick wins right now, but we also want to solve problems long term. And so sometimes we are going to recommend that you take pregnenolone upfront, and then we are going to recommend something like C60 to help improve your production underneath. That is how I would explain that. It is great.

Ken Swartz

Yeah. And so those are the benefits you will see. A lot of times if you have all white hair, it will come back salt and pepper because that is because now that you have raised your catalase levels and now you are more catalase. So your hair doesn’t bleach out as much.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Now, we can not promise that you will go 100% back.

Ken Swartz

On us out. But it definitely slows the graying process. And the other study they found that if applied topically would increase hair growth and people are taking a turn and everybody knows that your nails grow more and your hair grows more when you are on C60. So in your and some people say that your skin gets better too.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Do you have a topical one? If you put it topically, that is going to support and you do have a topical product.

Ken Swartz

Yes, we do have a topical product. And for those people listening in, hopefully, by the beginning of July, we will have an under-eye anti-gravity cream and a peptide-based facial cream with C60 and both, of course.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Amazing. Thank you so much, Ken. Any final words as we wrap up today?

Ken Swartz

Well, you know, I just want to remind people that C60 is not the magic pill, that it is one tool in the toolkit for better health. You still have to do good nutrition, proper sleep, exercise, supplementation, avoiding stressful situations and substances. All of these things are important and good health takes effort. It does not happen magically. You have to put effort into it to get results.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

This is what I love about you guys. You have got this product and here you are saying, do not forget, you have to do all these other things. So thank you for being such an advocate of wellness and health. I know you. I know your team really well. I have a lot of trust for what you do and what you stand for in the world and what you put out there so they can find you at your website.

Ken Swartz

It is Shopc60.com

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay.

Ken Swartz

Another C60 purple power.  It will take you there too. But officially it is Shopc60.co

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

And then there are clickable links all over this summit. You can find it on all of our pages. Just go for the fun C60 logo and click it. Thank you so much, Ken. You enjoy the rest of your day?

Ken Swartz

Glad to be on.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Take care now. Bye.