Pam Creel
Thanks for having me. I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis for five years before I found you with the five day course. I, as many people do, I went on Google and researched and that is when I was first diagnosed and I had seen you on YouTube and I believe it was Instagram and I bought the book and then I decided I could not implement until I read the whole book. And I did not have time to read the book, so I kept going on with life. And fast forward to December 2020, I was not mobile without assistance, whether that be a wheelchair or a wall, a husband, I could not go places on my own. I would get worn out quickly. My world spun. I was tingling and quite frankly, out of desperation, I went online and started searching again and I do not know if Instagram was reading my mind or seeing what I was searching, but your five day course came up and it was starting Monday. And I told my husband, I think I’m going to do this and he said, “Go for it.” And so your, during your five-day course, you are asking us about our intention. And I kept thinking, I do not do that. And then you explain why? Because you have to put the work in and you have to know why you are putting the work in. So I was all in. I joined AIM. I joined the radical health upgrade and knew forever changed my life. I am mobile again and I am working still, I had taken a leave of absence. I’m back in that job. It is high-stress so I apply many of the things that you taught us in the radical health upgrade to keep myself even in balance, because as we all know, stress does impact our health and I changed my diet. These are all things that in theory. We all know stress makes you not well, not eating a balanced diet will make you not well. But you gave us the science behind it and broke it into easy digestible pieces for each of us. And then the assistance that is coaching and your weekly calls really helped fine-tune my personal wealth and where I needed work.
Terry Wahls, MD
And for everyone who is listening here who might be thinking like, I can not recover. It is hopeless. I’m not worth this investment. What would you say to them?
Pam Creel
I would say I have been there and you do not have to suffer. And the amazing thing is that Dr. Wahls has been there. We have all experienced it, and they are compassionate and they understand. And I would encourage you to take the leap from where you can afford, I would do it. I would be all in because nobody is going to take care of you like you and your family needs you, and that is caring for them.
Terry Wahls, MD
Okay. This is marvelous. One last thing. Are you walking and fully mobile now?
Pam Creel
I am. I am. I am walking. I’m working out 3 to 4 times a week with somebody and then on my own with the vibration plate.
Terry Wahls, MD
Excellent. Well, thank you, Pam. This has been marvelous. I have so appreciate you and appreciate the wonderful work that you were doing.
Pam Creel
Thank you.
Kris
I’m 65 and, and, so 50 years ago, I had my first MS symptom at the age of 15, double vision. And I steadily continued to get exacerbations and was diagnosed with MS with my first MRI in 1990. I had been on multiple medications, shots, and now mainly shots and infusions. And it was in November of 2019, I had my last Ocrevus infusion because I was not getting better. I saw some information on Dr. Wahls and I decided to make an appointment. I saw her in 2020 and I learned about diet and natural ways of treating MS, exercise, relaxation, stress management. I have been on the Wahls Protocol now, following Dr. Wahls, meeting with her, getting coaching, attending seminars, and for two years now and I have been able to get off of, first of all, I was able to lose about 40 pounds, I was able to get off of my high blood pressure medicine just made incredible changes in my body and the makeup.
Terry Wahls, MD
Let us talk about the pain, the ulcers, and the swelling in the feet.
Kris
When I came in, Dr. Wahls noticed that I had ulcers on my feet and my ankles were also swollen. And so she said that that was part of this process. And I was able to by, I would elevate my feet and do some breathing and relaxation. I was able to get rid of those, but that tends to come back every year in the winter. And so I have noticed that it is, I think that was a problem that would have continued to get worse if I would not have made these changes. And I do not have any problems now with the ulcers that was painful. That made pain, walking painful. And I have been able to like I said, get off of some medications and I have been working at restoring the muscles by using E Stim, I took the class that Dr. Wahls had offered with just the electrical stimulation. And I have also gotten a new fit machine to work those muscles and especially those muscles that are weakened.
My main problems are my balance is very weak as well as the strength of my left leg. And so but through this, I’m getting stronger. And I had told Dr. Walz that my just my one desire was to be able to dance again with my husband. I have been to too many weddings where I just sat out because I did not want to, I just felt like I could not do it. And we have been to weddings as well as it is part of my exercises with new fit, that we will dance about once a week for 10 minutes. And so the exercises have been fun and restoring. And I just, you have just restored my hope for the future. I continue to exercise three times a week as well as I do biking and when it is nice in the summer.
Terry Wahls, MD
And swimming as well.
Kris
Correct. Yeah. Oh, that is the best for me, is the swimming because the pool is my place where I can even forget that I have any problems with eyes because I can swim. I do not have to worry about falling. It has been the perfect place for me.
Terry Wahls, MD
So working with me has really transformed your life.
Kris
My whole family’s life, my family, a lot of my family are also trying to watch what they are eating because food can make such a difference.
Terry Wahls, MD
So, Chris, what would you tell the people who are watching the summit now? What would you tell them about working with me?
Kris
I would say that Dr. Wahls has given me hope that I do not have to accept living with a decline, but that there are things that I can do that can positively impact my life. And yes, it does take work. It takes dedication. But if I can follow this, I know that there is a future for me.
Terry Wahls, MD
Chris, this has been wonderful. Thank you so much. We have loved working with you and it has been a great joy to have you in my practice as well.
Kris
And I have appreciated you.
Terry Wahls, MD
With those stories, inspiring to know that even though they have become quite disabled, they have stopped the decline and returned themselves to the path of healing. Now it was work. It took some effort, but clearly, they have achieved remarkable success with improving their function, improving their quality of life. And I hope that inspires all of you, that there is so much that you can do to improve your health, your vitality, and your quality of life. Again, enjoy today’s interviews. Thank you very much.
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