Embrace Quantum Healing In Your Cancer Treatment

Amit Goswami, it's such a pleasure to have you on this segment of a cancer breakthroughs. I know you're joining me from Romania. Thank you so much. Got to be here.

Thank you for inviting me. Thanks. And for everyone out there. Doctor Amit Goswami is a retired professor of physics from the University of Oregon, where he served on the faculty from 1968 to 1997.

He is a leader in the field of quantum physics and how that integrates with our reality. While researching this, amid discovered that when quantum physics is formulated within the metaphysics of qualified non dualism, as in Indian Vedanta, questions regarding meaning are immediately resolved.

His work does integrate science and spirituality. This work has culminated in this most recent book with a physician on quantum spirituality, and subsequently developed a theory of reincarnation and integrated conventional and alternative medicine within the new quantum signs of health.

Among his discoveries are the quantum theory of the creative process that they are. Quantum evolution theory of quantum economics that extends Adam Smith's capitalism into workable paradigm for the 21st century.

In 2009, he started a movement called quantum Activism, now gaining ground in North and South America, Southern and Eastern Europe, and India. In. In 2018, together with his collaborators established Quantum Activism Vishva, an institution of transformative education India based on quantum science and the primacy of consciousness.

This program offers Masters and PhD program in the quantum science of health, prosperity and happiness under the auspices of University of Technology, Jaipur.

It is the author of numerous books, most notably The Self-Aware Universe, physics of the soul, The Quantum Doctor. God is Not Dead, Quantum Creativity, and the Everything Answer Book.

He was featured in the movie What the Bleep Do We Know? And the documentary The La Llama Renaissance and the Quantum Activist. And you have done. You've been busy. You've done a lot.

Thank you. So here we have then a summit about cancer. And with that we will talk about how does things come to be. Who are we. How does disease come about?

How is health formed? What are the foundational principles behind that? Doctor Ahmed, one of the big questions is we're on the focus is cancer. And you have a lot of people obviously battling cancer.

And we can then look at, you know, take this herb, you know, eat this food. But at the on the basis of it, a foundational is consciousness. I mean, it's how how does disease become and how does health become?

And how do we shift consciousness in order to be able to promote health versus then feeding a disease such as cancer? Okay. Cancer question is one that we have thoroughly investigated with the new world view.

Quantum world view. Quantum world view says that objects are possibilities for consciousness to choose from this phrase. Quantum physics to include objects not only of the material kind, sensory objects, but also of non-material kind.

And as although material is demand, which is claim that mind, energy, feeling or intuition, these are all material phenomena or they don't exist. Take our live but obviously not experience.

They sure seem to be non-material. And quantum physics allows them to be included because there is no restriction. The possibilities of consciousness to choose from the material restriction goes away.

So in that way special feelings can be introduced. Now what is the importance of feelings? Feelings are very important because feelings are associated with the software of the organs of the body.

It is obvious that organs are hardware and they also have a physiology. But recent experimentation is showing that the physiology, the turning off or on of the gene of an organ, cell of an organ, that is, that it does not in the it does not decide in the gene that often control does not reside in the nuclear genes.

So where does it come from? This question was solved by Rupert Sheldrake, who suggested there has to be a non-material interaction. Quantum physics, of course, supports it, and thus vital energy is the idea of morphogenetic field is introduced whose movement is what we feel as vital energy, and they are essential to provide the organs with their software that determines the physiology of the organ function of the author.

So once I have that explanation, then the explanation of diseases are not very hard to find in the same way. Mind is also quantum. Mind also is the field.

We don't call it morphogenetic field. Let's call it a mental field. But consciousness chooses that field as well to determine how we think. And often what happens when the stress appears.

We think wrongly about how to handle this stress. For example, we have death in the family. A very, very dear person has died. And we of course think that we should we miss him, and therefore we won't be able to love again, because this person is how love appeared to us a child, to a mother or a lover to a husband or wife.

That happens often and you grieve. Now grieving is giving a meaning to the stress. I grieve means I exclude love from my life for a while. So in this way, wrong meaning can be given to a situation, and that may cause a vital energy block.

In this case, what is blocked? What is blocked is love. I cannot love another because my loved one that I loved with has disappeared. Now the second question is okay, so we have established that certain stressful situation can block the energies of love.

Now how is the energy of love come about? That's the second question. I'm just giving you a chronological where the in my discovery process. So the second question is what is love got to do with people and organs?

Well, that is not very hard. Everybody knows if you talk to a woman specially, they will tell you that they feel energy in the heart when they love. And men like me have experienced it as well.

I am sure you have to. So love is connected with the heart and then it means to big appears. Heart is a pump. It pumps blood in the body. What does that got to do with heart?

That's not a love is not a heart function. It seems that. But then I found that Paris in the primus gland, in the same region of the heart, is called the entire heart region.

As the heart chakra is not just the heart, but it's also the immune system, which is somewhat in the center in the form of the time. As gland to job is to distinguish between me and not me.

So generally I'm defensive. If you appear, you are not me. So I'm defensive about you. What will you do? You know this phenomenon of shaking hands developed in the West because that keeps your sword hand occupied.

And so some people develop this strategy. Okay. You said to avoid drawing sword from this defensiveness. But of course, today defensiveness is not expressed that way.

It expresses the smoothness that appears in us. We suppress the defensiveness, and we just accept that where it is. I have to be defensive for a while and the person goes, well, I'll be back to my normal.

But it doesn't work that way. That suppressed energy, that defensiveness, is a serious detriment to love. So I asked my ask this question if one stop defensiveness.

Suppose you have vulnerable. And Watson, if I don't mind being vulnerable when of the opposite sex appears, that really appeals to me. Generally speaking, we don't mind being vulnerable.

And so in those moments. The time has gone can turn itself off. No distinction of me and not me in that vulnerability. This was my initial proposal, published in 2004, that we can.

Heart becomes quantum. Heart is capable of loving. But still the problem is not entirely solved. Because what is the connection with that? Okay. Begley speaking.

We understand you. Stop being defensive. We compound above and therefore love, and therefore love must have an effect on the immune system. So if the immune system remained, and if you love regularly, then immune system will function better and therefore there will be immune system will be able to kill off all these cancerous cells that develop in the body from other causes.

But still, two things have not been explained. How is that really that immune system functioning depends on being in the heart. That's not quite explained.

It's the hope that that is an explanation. So I had a suspicion for the brain. We know that we need to sleep every night. So I thought, okay, if the brain needs rest, but why does it need rest?

What is special about the brain? When you think about it and immediately rockets. Okay. Brain is where we are conscious. Our self-consciousness happens in the brain.

So I started asking myself, is similarly, is there self-consciousness in the heart? Ordinarily, we assume that body is it's all in the brain consciousness.

But mystics stopped differently. Women say heart has feelings. The experience directly in the heart. They don't experience feeling in the brain and then coming down to heart.

Not that way. Directly in the heart. And some people say gut feeling. You remember even Donald Trump said that a few times. He has got feelings. And this is not to be disregarded.

People do have gut feeling tired, gut feeling. When people have a creative experience, they feel it in the gut. So what is this about gut feeling? Feelings in the heart?

Is there self in body? Body? So this question I couldn't answer for many years. And then Palestinian medical doctor joined by efforts in these things.

And she and I found one day that indeed there is a bunch of brain cells, neurons in the heart and also in the navel. So those two places are capable of what the brain is capable of.

Those two places actually can have a self to experience. Things like feelings in the heart. The experiences are the love, love, the city of love. So what happens then?

If we have a loving person in our life, then immune system gets a break every now and then, every time we look at my loved one immune system gets to rest and hard textured quantum hard becomes quantum.

We have love and immune system. Every time is getting rest like strip presents come in. Loving person in my life gives my immune system the rest. It needs to sustain its activities in a proper, healthy fashion.

In this way, the immune system health now is explained, and if a healthy immune system, it will be able to kill off the abnormal cells that cancerous cells.

We still have one more question. How do you explain they can grow up the cancer cells? How does, for example, text women's breast? How does the breast becomes problem in the first place then the growth of abnormal cells.

Why would that happen? Now if you think about it women's best answer Betty. Special. The physiology changes abruptly when a person a little child the breast is functioning.

No function. Then Charles becomes a teenager and immediately the breast changes into a sex object on one hand, but also on the other hand. If it conceives, then mother.

And that's a very special state. Madeleine. So in this way the physiology automatically, in this case one does not have to take a quantum length. Because this is not built into women, the automatically does this not suppose something is preventing from happening this happening?

Some cells for some reason starts malfunctioning. Then of course all you are doing something that is causing it to malfunction. You are doing something like human.

Start grieving because the child died and it causing the breasts not to satisfy its function, which is being a mother. So in that case, what the cell will try to do, they will try to protect themselves in that protection process.

They become rogue self. Even better examples of the case of smoking and lungs. Look at what happens. Mocking threatens the self. Cells are going to die.

So how to protect themselves? They decide to be wrong will just multiply, multiply, multiply so that some of them will be dead. But not all of us will be dead.

So in this way, cancerous cells, potentially cancerous cells develop. And when love is lacking, they become cancer. So this is a complete explanation.

Then of course, my next question was how does it how does one verify this? So indeed, I found that the doctor in India, he had similar ideas. He did an experiment with many grieving women, either dead spouse or dead child, and started studying them.

Fortunately, starting 1970s, there is an instrument which can measure our vital analogies and vital blocks. This is called Kirlian photography. If you hold your finger between two electrodes, you know about that many people.

Our listeners will also know about that. And then that takes a photograph of the vital energy of the around the finger, which has otherwise the finger has a biophysical body.

That biophysical body is sensitive to our feelings. And that's the picture you are getting. If my feeling is grief, the picture Kirlian picture will be very different than when there is no block when I'm capable of loving.

So in this way, he could detect if a mother is grieving enough, or a wife is grieving enough so that the energy is completely blocked at the heart chakra.

And then he started sending those people to oncologists to see if there is cancer. And indeed, he got many cases of very early stages of cancer. And those women did not have to have massage to me because the early stages radiation treatment can easily solve the problem.

So in this way there was a very nice verification of it. And of course during Covid, I don't know if you noticed. We had direct reports of women have much less deaths from Covid than men because women are typical of loving much more in general.

So this kind of proof is now quite a few. And we now have a program of quantum healing in case one has breast cancer, we have a program of vital energy, mental creativity, to help the person to take a quantum leap of healing.

So it's it seems to me you're talking about because when when you look talk about quantum then and consciousness and you recognize that there is no, no self, there's no separation, we're all entangled, all intertwined.

And so when you look at something like cancer or like disease, then you it becomes that separation. Like you're talking about grief, you're talking about defense.

I'm defending myself against what's out there. You separate yourself with the environment that you're your world around you. So then you become defensive.

And that is what then kind of blocks the energy and like cancer becomes then a a kind of a isolation of energy where you separate an entity or a separate a group of cells from the rest.

So it's a manifestation of physical manifestation. What's happening then? Consciously, yeah. Defensiveness is the basic defensiveness, first of all, that causes immune system problem and also defensiveness directly for the organ.

When I'm attacking an organ, taking some, taking a substance that suit the organ, then organ cells become defensive. Out of that, they become rogue cell cancerous, potentially cancerous cells.

So both of these sources are this defensiveness. If we give up defensiveness, of course, in our world, that is the very difficult proposition to handle.

But people who can they obviously have better health from this chronic disease. It's not just cancer. It's also hard is this it's also autoimmune disease.

Even brain dementia has been connected to inflammation. And that is the immune system problem. So so talk a little bit. You've talked about things like the the mental field the morphogenetic field.

But talk a little bit about the physical world. You know how if you go to then a quantum level, you know, the fiscal world, does it exist? And then also what is the the true it talked about consciousness in regards to kind of the true driving force in regards to reality.

And then how so consciousness, then your mind and then the physical reality so that people can then understand when you look upon like a fiscal tumor, how physical really is that.

Yeah, yeah. The whole point is, of course, people get a bit confused because consciousness is something that is kind of wooly, you know, airy fairy. It's not solid like matter.

But now I'm in front of a table which is solid. I can pump on it and so can you. It's not consciousness. It's not like that. So how can consciousness control objects like matter is the big problem.

So this is the problem that quantum physics solved. That matter is not like matter. Matter is different at the sub microscopic level, at the quantum level, at the level of particles.

These are the building blocks of matter and energy. Things are completely different. Matter is not solid. Matter is wave of possibility for consciousness to choose from.

This is the breakthrough that quantum physics allows, that this is the breakthrough that enters consciousness in science. In in the equation of reality, the reality is not there until consciousness chooses from the possibility that even in the process of actual event, actual experience is when solid ness of a solid is created.

Yes, solids are more solid, but that's because consciousness made them so according to the physical laws that govern the solid consciousness outside of law, consciousness still follows the quantum law.

Quantum laws for solid matter is that matter will be revealed as solid. And then if you're into the temperature, it can even become liquid. It can even become gaseous.

So those are all part of the physical laws that govern the material objects. Similarly, the law which governs the mental objects that allows that govern the vital object.

We talked about a little bit about the vital objects, how they form centers like you call them chakra. These are laws of the vital. The entire chakra dynamics arises from the laws of the vital shell.

Genetic field is part of the law of the vital. Mental laws are a lot of the mental field. That's where we get the meaning. And you know, on and on it goes.

The intuition for archetypes. Those are the laws of higher loss, log of consciousness itself, how it comes down to people. We intuit these archetypes which are part of the virtues of consciousness, like kind, being kind, being, just, being generous.

So all kinds of things that we call noble feelings, they all come from consciousness in the form of archetypes. The archetype that is very important for healing is wholeness, consciousness.

You already mentioned your separateness. Fantastic intuition. Separateness makes us sick spiritually. That's the beginning of sickness. And the more we create the separateness like wrong meaning one layer mode of separateness, whatever energy blocking, another layer of separateness and the final layer of separateness material organ goes awry.

And so are there certain groupings of archetypes, you know, can one kind of learn as to which archetype am I? And how do I function? Best to learn more about yourself and then also learn more about the people around you?

Yes, this is very important to ask today. Why are people getting more cancer, more heart disease? More of every one of these chronic diseases? It was not like this.

Yes, people died a lot from infectious diseases, but not like this. Not from chronic disease to that chronic disease is the problem. Why is that? So this question of what?

What is happening? It is very important. What happens to people is that they are not aware of this. Archetypes. The archetypes are very much group. Some of the archetype are noticeable because they contribute to our survival.

For example, everybody wants the archetype of abundance that's being rich and everybody wants to be rich, or everybody wants archetype of power. That's the can do doing things, the ability of making effort.

Okay, so people go for it. But love, my goodness. These have no survival values, at least not obvious. They have survival value. Now we know they can save us from cancer, but that's not something that we can see.

Some people ignore them so they. Chronologie is like this. Human beings. As we grew in civilization first, we only explored abundance and power. Few people explored beauty.

The artists that that's a special group of people. We don't need to concern too much about that. And then came the next group. And that's when civilization began.

When we learned to explore archetypes of goodness, how can we be good to each other? Because very soon people found out. If we constantly fight out of the defensiveness, then we cannot live together.

And even human beings have that incentive. Human beings are social beings. We got to find a group of people, learn to be decent within a group. You're still fighting, but only foreigners.

So that started the archetype of goodness. And then when we changed from country to agriculture in between, we went through a stage where male and female both could do garden agriculture.

And that's how family started. And then love entered the equation because, you know, sex are built in with the heart so that if you have sex, energy tend to rise to be hard, hard becomes important.

So people discovered love after that. The other architects were not so much of a problem, but the beginning of civilization is discovered of goodness and love.

And then then can the rest of them, which is truth. And then, of course, justice, wholeness. And finally, there is also the self archetype. So it seems to me that the key is then to move away from the the state of survival, which is more kind of that reptilian reptilian type of brain, where and if you're in that state, that survival mode, that is when you then are in a state of separateness where you're not inclusive.

And then obviously there become then rogue cells like you're talking about because you're promoting that separateness. Yeah, that's me, mine. And I have to defend my what is mine.

That all comes from this survival mortality. This is I don't know if you remember, Abram Mazda's work on hierarchy of needs. He was a psychologist who discovered with lower needs, higher needs.

And that was the very important discovery. So lower needs are needed. Only the archetype of basic archetypes of abundance and power. When we recognize the higher need of goodness and love, then we change the equation.

Civilization can begin. So for someone then that is, let's say we have someone that's listening, that's been diagnosed with cancer. What are some of the steps that they can do and understand?

I mean, we talked about the the importance and obviously of of grief, letting go of blockages that will block our ability to love and be inclusive and open up our heart chakra for the immune system.

What are some of the action steps that they can do? I mean, obviously they they should. The quantum healing program that you're doing would be a really powerful tool.

But can I give a little understanding of what some of the initial steps that they can do in order to open themselves up? Actually, the initial steps are much more important than talking about quantum healing.

Quantum healing is a creative process. It really involves a lot of creativity, and people who are going to do that are actually people who have a chronic disease so bad that they are desperate.

They can undertake that kind of program. So talking about it will not make much sense to people who have never been creative in their lives, because creativity is a lot, a lot of very clever, intelligent work.

Not only work, but very intelligent work. That creativity comes to us. But prevention is much easier. What we have to prevent is that we usually nutrition.

Everybody knows to that, you know, the the news media and of course the social media. Both are pretty centered on okay, what should be your diet, how many hours you sleep every day.

There is some article, you know, I check Apple News in my Apple iPhone. And, you know, every day I find a lot of stories just repeat the same wisdom. Nothing new, but they repeat, repeat, repeat.

You know, that's what. So people are very concerned about their physical body. But of course nobody talks about the fact that we also have feelings and they also can be abstracted to this vital energy block and that affect the software of the organs as important as the hardware and no mention of any of this.

So people just don't know that there are five bodies of the human being. It's not just the physical body, that vital body, vital energies. They can be blocked and it is good use disease.

There is mental body which gives meaning to our experiences that can also be wrong and therefore can cause us disease. Distress response is the mind work partly also of feeling, but it's mental wrong meaning giving is what makes this so compulsory.

Today we make our disease, so to speak. Of course, it's not just mind alone, it's negative emotions, mind plus feeling. But we block both. You block the mental, we also block the vital.

And then fourth body is the supplemental where our creativity comes from. So there are mental and vital. But they are created by creative quantum bits.

So we call them higher mental higher vital. And then finally the spirit itself that doesn't go away from such as the ground of being we are. If we are open to that, even that is important to us.

And as you said, separateness. What is the separatist first separateness is from the spirit. This is so common to that several body today is susceptible to.

This is because we have become no thanks to materialism. We have completely. Many of us have been completely detached from the divine, from oneness, from this consciousness of the ground of being which olden people call God.

To materialist God is the Arabic word. I figured that out. How can project just driving? And if you say when I used to teach in college some of these ideas back in the 1990s, I used to make joke about it.

I used to say, G instead of go, the G word. Yeah. As a scientist. But that still continues. That was 30 years ago, but it still continued. People are still.

I was fascinated by when when you were talking about the sleep in regards to, you know, the brain rest while you're sleeping and then also then you're talking about the heart and then the heart and needing to rest as well.

And my, my thoughts kind of went to, you know, so when we we are awake, we're conscious, we have this, this world. We look at everything material. But then the importance to every day have a kind of reconnection with all that is, so to say, where we live in a space where we are not thinking about separateness and but that we then becomes connected to all, becomes connected with God, can be connected with, you know, just kind of being part of the existence.

And that is what happens. And for for the heart, for the brain, for all cells. And while you're sleeping and how important it is then to have that good sleep and have that moment so the body can then recalibrate itself.

And so it's almost like with David Bohm where we talk about the how things come to be, and then it's implicit and then yeah, it, it comes and goes how reality is, you know, it's created and then disappears and created and then disappears every moment.

So that sleep and awake is kind of a part of that cycle that becomes so important. This is why in deep sleep, oftentimes when we wake up, I slept happily.

That difference is did I have deep sleep or did I have broken sleep? Many people never experience this deep sleep because they are so separated that they never go to deep sleep.

And they miss this wonderful opportunity of being in bliss. That bliss is what we need. What we cover says every night. You're so right. And that place is important also for the new system that happens every time.

We are loving. By the way, this idea that hard text Quantum leap has been verified by Heart Institute researchers have found that the heart becomes coherent.

Coherence is a quantum characteristic. You know, objects dancing together in the same place, like my fingers, the different parts of the heart and the brain that is in the heart.

If they are all moving in the same rhythm with in phase with each other like a chorus line, then there would be quantum. And that's precisely what happened.

So yeah. So it becomes and that's fascinating. Obviously any power, anything that is is done in coherence becomes is like a laser beam versus and regular light from light bulbs.

Incoherent light. Exactly. Very good example brain by the way. Also, whenever we are creative, brain also becomes coherent all over the different apparatuses of the brain.

Start dancing in phase. Amazing phenomenon that has been discovered with neuroscience R. I. Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging. You take these images, you also measure the oxygenation of the various awards, and you find that they are moving coherently.

The brain waves are coherent between different parts of the brain. This is what love does to us. If we are loving, not only the heart becomes coherent, the brain also becomes coherent.

And if we can move our all three cell a stomach, that region pancreas becomes quantum. And if the plant stays quantum, if we can maintain the pancreas at the quantum level will never have time to diabetes.

If we can maintain the heart at the quantum level, we never have cancer or autoimmune disease. And this terrible things, even dementia probably has a big component of how love can prevent it.

So you know, it really fantastic thing. If we just learn about the separateness, what separateness can do to us eventually, and the stages and how easy it is to prevent it, because all we have to do, we talk about spiritual.

That is very, very simple. I just make sure that I sleep deep, sleep every night. Second, architects, we make room for intuition. What is so hard about intuition comes to us simply if we intend, which we tend to love, if we intend to be truthful and follow it through.

Not entirely easy to always be truthful, but if we reasonable amount of truthfulness, then intuition center our life in a copious way, keeps the body healthy.

Mental. Where is the water? Is the total for many kids, but they cannot live without social media. Very hard. The social media are always pushing misinformation.

You get used to that. Information processing. You don't need any meaning in your life. That's the danger of what gets mined into disease. But if you start instead looking for meaning of your life, looking for purpose of your life, mental body will be healthy, vital.

We already talked about to a certain extent, but there are certain things we can do actually going. It's not hard. It is a simple movement like this, like this.

This is the Indians did that by culture. Why do you think the culture come from? It came from this knowledge that if I do this, there will be more vital energy in my palms.

We can feel that vital energy if you bring it to your cheeks. And you will feel that I'm getting a fresher putting water on the cheek, which also, by the way.

So it's just very simple things we can do to prevent this whole bunch of chronic diseases that is just creating chaos in our lives today. Yeah, it's all about the intention, like you're mentioning is to then if you set the intention and then develop habits to remove things that are creating distraction and removing coherence, and then try to live down a life to promote coherence in all ways, and then all your cells, your brain, your heart, your, you know, pancreas, all these cells can then start to to resonate and create the, the entanglement and, you know, with, with the, with each other.

I'm glad you mentioned the word entanglement. That is crucial. Then tangled is the idea that we developed a together consciousness. Consciousness can connect us if we are entangled.

Pentangle is simply an agreement. I agree to be entangled with you. I want to be one with you some of the time. That's the agreement. That agreement is reached very easily.

If we can just intent together. Okay. We are together. So we are one right now. Of course, one stops immediately as we have as we speak or as we express anything, one that breaks up.

So how to be continuously having this intention is the challenge of intimacy. And that's why intimate relationships are so important. Casual relationship.

We cannot hold that intention for very long, but in intimate relationships we can. And when we do, life becomes very healthy, very happy. Blissful. Well, I made thank you so much for taking this time.

Thank you for what you're bringing to the world. It is incredible. I started reading your books back in the early 90s, and so thank you for everything that you have done and represent.

Thank you very much. Thank you.